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    Question Current life in Las Vegas- Housing, retail, social life?

    Two PFA shows ago, Druff was interviewing a guy that lived in Vegas, but moved to Texas. Druff used to live in Vegas, I used to live in Vegas and wish I never left as I had a good life there. I would go back if I could, but right now, Reno is looking like a real deal.

    So who lives there now and how do you like it? How is the housing market, flat? Apartments, retail stores, bars, restaurants- Is life there slow and just locked down? How is dating for singles, still plenty of people or also slow to dead?

    How is the crime there? I still have flashbacks of the outside home videos of the kids breaking into the nice homes. Seems like the crime there is going to stay bad no matter what and you are initially on your own as 911 is slow. When I lived there, the cops were slow then too. A pizza delivery might get there faster than Metro PD, not joking.

    Your thoughts?

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    Current Vegas is a mess, and might stay a mess for a long time.

    The big increase in crime in 2020 is on the strip, committed by tourists. This differs from the late 2000s housing crash era where crime ticked up among locals (especially property crime, which went through the roof).

    There are pros and cons to living in Vegas, like most US cities.

    Pros:

    - Better weather than most of the US. Even the brutally hot summer is dry, so it's not as bad as many parts of the US which are less known for their summer heat. California weather is much better, though.

    - Access to a lot of good restaurants within a fairly short drive. Also, there are more 24-hour dining options than anywhere else, though most of the really good places aren't 24 hours.

    - A lot of people visit Vegas, so friends and relatives from other cities tend to come to you, making it a lot easier to see them.

    - Biggest gambling/poker scene in the world, though LA is arguably better for poker. (However, LA is less convenient for poker, as the rooms are mostly in lousy neighborhoods which require a drive in traffic to visit.)

    - Younger women are much more willing to date somewhat older men, even in the non-gold-diggers, compared to other places. It's kind of in the culture.

    - You can buy a much better house for the same money, compared to most places in California or the Phoenix area.

    - A large number of entertainment options exist, within a short drive.

    - The underrated Mount Charleston nearby.

    - Tons of strip clubs, Asian jerk shops, and hookers, if you're into that sort of thing. I wasn't, but if you are, Vegas is a great place to be.


    Cons:

    - Very isolated. Once you leave the greater LV area, there is no city of any consequence for 200+ miles in any direction. Also, for being in a state which borders California and Utah, good skiing isn't easy to come by. Mt. Charleston has a small resort, but for anything decent, you have to drive 300 miles to Mammoth, which surprises people.

    - Healthcare sucks. I'm not sure why, but it sucks, and it has for a long time.

    - Public school system sucks. Doesn't matter if you don't have school-aged kids, but something to keep in mind.

    - The entire city revolves around the gambling industry, which causes massive pain to the economy when there's a downturn in that industry. We saw some of this in the late 2000s, and we are seeing it big time now. If COVID never goes away completely, Lord help Las Vegas (I sound like Anna Khait now, I know...)

    - No MLB or NBA team, and I don't see one coming anytime soon. Combine that with the isolation mentioned above, and it's hard to see a live MLB or NBA game if you live there.

    - Vegas is unfortunately the destination for a lot of lost, directionless people, who show up in town with no real plan. This eventually combines to form a depressing/hopeless vibe which kinda envelops the city, and it's hard to ignore unless you really isolate yourself. When I lived in Vegas, I felt like I had to leave town every so often to get away from this, even though I was never feeling depressed/hopeless myself.


    I do miss Vegas, though, especially because I have spent very little time there (3 days total) since July 2019. I also think it's a better place to live if you're single rather than married or in a long relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    - Portland is unfortunately the destination for a lot of lost, directionless people, who show up in town with no real plan. This eventually combines to form a depressing/hopeless vibe which kinda envelops the city, and it's hard to ignore unless you really isolate yourself.

    FYP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    - Tons of strip clubs, Asian jerk shops, and hookers, if you're into that sort of thing. I wasn't, but if you are, Vegas is a great place to be.
    I only went to the strip clubs as a visitor and not really as a resident. As a resident the late 90s, I honestly never saw an "Asian jerk shop" or hookers on the street or hotels, etc. Im sure they were around, I just didnt notice them as a resident. Now I wouldnt mind going to an Asian place and getting a legit back massage only, might be ok.

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    Was reading about the lack of rain every year in Vegas. I love rain, so there is a draw back to living there.

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    i lived in vegas for a minute and theres a lot of living to do there if you move beyond the casinos (obviously). like within a 45 minute drive you have;

    - fly fishing the colorado river

    - wind surfing lake mead

    - unbelievably gorgeous hiking in red rocks etc

    plus youre a mellow 5 hour drive from los angeles.

    the food there is great with strong delivery options... elon's boring company is actually about to revolutionize transportation to/from the airport as well. apparently because the monorail contractor folded, he announced he is going to build a tesla loop connecting all the major casino properties to the airport. like its going to be a 5 minute tunnel drive to get from MGM to the airport, that sort of shit, instead of 30+ minutes in traffic.. also it looks like tony hsieh's attempts to infuse some arts/culture into downtown are going to survive his passing... plus lots of shooting ranges, legal weed, so on.

    downsides: theres so much to be depressed about there if you go looking for it... the traffic is intolerable... it attracts a lot of the most terrible people in the world but thankfully they tend to aggregate on the strip.. and if you want to hit the morning futures market, set your alarm for 4:30am. shrug.

    so yeah honestly im kinda bullish on vegas right now and actually considering relocating back if/when covid is sorted.
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    if daddy tine ends up in vegas in the next 1-3 yrs, I will strongly consider a move there myself.

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    Any fans of Reno, Nevada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Any fans of Reno, Nevada?
    I was in Reno for a few days to play in the online part of the WSOP (stayed at the Whitney Peak Hotel.)
    I was surprised at how nice the town was. Quiet, homeless situation on the street not too bad, pretty clean. They washed the sidewalks every morning. Limited food choices but a couple of good spots. Some outdoor activities in the area but really not much to do if you can't create your own entertainment. As I get toward retirement age it's a place I might consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Any fans of Reno, Nevada?
    I was in Reno for a few days to play in the online part of the WSOP (stayed at the Whitney Peak Hotel.)
    I was surprised at how nice the town was. Quiet, homeless situation on the street not too bad, pretty clean. They washed the sidewalks every morning. Limited food choices but a couple of good spots. Some outdoor activities in the area but really not much to do if you can't create your own entertainment. As I get toward retirement age it's a place I might consider.
    Please tell us how was the Whitney Peak Hotel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post

    I was in Reno for a few days to play in the online part of the WSOP (stayed at the Whitney Peak Hotel.)
    I was surprised at how nice the town was. Quiet, homeless situation on the street not too bad, pretty clean. They washed the sidewalks every morning. Limited food choices but a couple of good spots. Some outdoor activities in the area but really not much to do if you can't create your own entertainment. As I get toward retirement age it's a place I might consider.
    Please tell us how was the Whitney Peak Hotel?
    I liked the Whitney Peak.
    nice rooms, reasonable price.
    No casino.
    They have a climbing wall and fitness center.
    Pet friendly and very close to a dog park, the main casinos, and convenience stores.
    Restaurant was only open for takeout. Food was very good. Staff competent and friendly.
    I was there with my wife and did run into the problem of only one connection to the WSOP through the hotel internet. This was easily fixed with a personal hotspot.
    things might have changed since the CV situation got worse again, but I found the locals friendly, police presence good with no overzealousness (I saw them tell one guy on the street he had to pour his beer out, no drama.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Any fans of Reno, Nevada?
    I was in Reno for a few days to play in the online part of the WSOP (stayed at the Whitney Peak Hotel.)
    I was surprised at how nice the town was. Quiet, homeless situation on the street not too bad, pretty clean. They washed the sidewalks every morning. Limited food choices but a couple of good spots. Some outdoor activities in the area but really not much to do if you can't create your own entertainment. As I get toward retirement age it's a place I might consider.

    reno has changed a lot recently and like it or not, the tesla factory is pretty much why.
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    Portland- No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Any fans of Reno, Nevada?
    I was in Reno for a few days to play in the online part of the WSOP (stayed at the Whitney Peak Hotel.)
    I was surprised at how nice the town was. Quiet, homeless situation on the street not too bad, pretty clean. They washed the sidewalks every morning. Limited food choices but a couple of good spots. Some outdoor activities in the area but really not much to do if you can't create your own entertainment. As I get toward retirement age it's a place I might consider.
    I live an hour from Reno. It’s been slowly on the decline since the onset of the Indian Casinos in California, but there are a lot worse places to live for sure. The biggest knock for me is the airport. Few flights and few destinations.

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    Current life in Las Vegas- Housing, retail, social life?

    I’d like to move back there, but then I miss the excitement of going there and enjoy the hotel experience. For me, just driving to Vegas on the 15 is part of the experience.

    But living there is sweet too. Can always go out and do stuff and lots of women to chase, food, catering to locals.
    Last edited by desertrunner; 12-25-2020 at 11:16 AM.

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    Bump for some updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Bump for some updates.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanDruff
    Current Vegas is a mess, and might stay a mess for a long time.
    Update- housing, schools, crime, job market. None of it has changed in the last 5 weeks. Keep scratching for attention though faggot
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Update- housing, schools, crime, job market. None of it has changed in the last 5 weeks. Keep scratching for attention though faggot
    Ass Clown- More members are checking, so I wanted to see if they could add anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Bump for some updates.
    Vegas COVID numbers are going down.
    Looks like crime on the strip is being addressed.
    I'm going 2/8 to play at the Venetian.
    I usually rent a car but this time I'll get an Uber from the airport and then just walk between hotel and casino.

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