*** Official Republican CIVIL WAR Thread ***

[Sloppy Joe]

Poll: Half of Americans now predict U.S. may 'cease to be a democracy' someday

A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows that most Democrats (55%) and Republicans (53%) now believe it is “likely” that America will “cease to be a democracy in the future” — a stunning expression of bipartisan despair about the direction of the country.

Half of all Americans (49%) express the same sentiment when independents and those who do not declare any political affiliation are factored in, while just a quarter (25%) consider the end of U.S. democracy unlikely and another quarter (25%) say they’re unsure.

This is because there's two separate concerns -- one from each side.

Democrats are screaming "MUH DEMOCRACY" and "MUH JANUARY 6" over that incident, and feel that further Republican rule will seek to remove voting rights and overturn elections.

Republicans feel that the government in engaging in an incredible overreach of power, and now has the cooperation of spineless corporations and mainstream media.

Both sides basically fear the other turning the country into a dictatorship. Not good.

See the last couple of years? This is undeniably happening.

[Dan Druff]

This is because there's two separate concerns -- one from each side.

Democrats are screaming "MUH DEMOCRACY" and "MUH JANUARY 6" over that incident, and feel that further Republican rule will seek to remove voting rights and overturn elections.

Republicans feel that the government in engaging in an incredible overreach of power, and now has the cooperation of spineless corporations and mainstream media.

Both sides basically fear the other turning the country into a dictatorship. Not good.

See the last couple of years? This is undeniably happening.

Yes, starting with Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton.

Being a sore loser and accuser of rigged elections didn't begin with Trump.

[Sloppy Joe]

See the last couple of years? This is undeniably happening.

Yes, starting with Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton.

Being a sore loser and accuser of rigged elections didn't begin with Trump.

Georgia has been invaluable in establishing precedent with Republican voter suppression, yes.

All the more amazing that Biden took it down; quickly corrected for future, no doubt.

[Dan Druff]

Yes, starting with Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton.

Being a sore loser and accuser of rigged elections didn't begin with Trump.

Georgia has been invaluable in establishing precedent with Republican voter suppression, yes.

All the more amazing that Biden took it down; quickly corrected for future, no doubt.

The left thinks "voter suppression" is equivalent to rolling back exceptions made for pre-vaccine COVID.

And Abrams lost by 55,000 votes. If she lost by 500 and whined about voter suppression, it would be something worth examining. But 55,000? GTFO

And how many years did we hear about Trump/Russia collusion for the 2016 election, with nothing substantial to back it up?

And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed by major social media, just days before the election.

Then there's the ballot harvesting trick being pushed hard by Democrats, which is pretty much a guarantee of election fraud.

I'm no fan of the 2020 election rigtards who still whine about how Trump was the real winner, but LOL @ thinking that election shenanigans only occur on one side.

[Jayjami]

See the last couple of years? This is undeniably happening.

Yes, starting with Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton.

Being a sore loser and accuser of rigged elections didn't begin with Trump.

True, but they never attempted a coup.

[Dan Druff]

Yes, starting with Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton.

Being a sore loser and accuser of rigged elections didn't begin with Trump.

True, but they never attempted a coup.

A group of powerless retards attempted to force a different result for the election, mostly by milling around the Capitol aimlessly, and it was shut down within 3 hours. Everything returned to normal, and Congress went right back into session.

If that's the "threat to democracy", I think we're pretty safe.

[Sloppy Joe]

True, but they never attempted a coup.

A group of powerless retards attempted to force a different result for the election, mostly by milling around the Capitol aimlessly, and it was shut down within 3 hours. Everything returned to normal, and Congress went right back into session.

If that's the "threat to democracy", I think we're pretty safe.

You truly have to be a delusional moron to frame it like this.

Intelligence has always been in short supply with you.

[Entropy]

Here's Bernie's message to Fox News viewers.

Now you know why they robbed him, and by robbing him they robbed all Americans. He would of been GOOD FOR 99.5% OF ALL AMERICANS.

People are stupid and get manipulated by political propaganda, that's why we can't have nice things.

[Dan Druff]

Bernie was blatantly robbed TWICE by the DNC (worse in 2020 than 2016, actually), but he became their bitch anyway, because he was so addicted to power that he still wanted influence, and couldn't get such influence by attacking the DNC for what they did.

The DNC hates Bernie. Remember, he was an "Independent" who only used Democrats when it was convenient for him. They despised him for it. They were also fearful that he was too extreme-sounding, and would lose any Presidential contest.

It's funny how Democrats forget that the DNC basically selected their preferred candidate in Biden by manipulating everything in early 2020. They don't give a shit about the will of the people.

[tony bagadonuts]

True, but they never attempted a coup.

A group of powerless retards attempted to force a different result for the election, mostly by milling around the Capitol aimlessly, and it was shut down within 3 hours. Everything returned to normal, and Congress went right back into session.

If that's the "threat to democracy", I think we're pretty safe.

That's a piss-poor take Druff. This isn't the time for folks that are right of center to minimize what happened on that day.

Disappointing.

[sonatine]

if druff spent the energy he puts into finding worse and worse hills to die on towards actually beating poker, he would be this years bracelet leader in like an hour.

[Dan Druff]

A group of powerless retards attempted to force a different result for the election, mostly by milling around the Capitol aimlessly, and it was shut down within 3 hours. Everything returned to normal, and Congress went right back into session.

If that's the "threat to democracy", I think we're pretty safe.

That's a piss-poor take Druff. This isn't the time for folks that are right of center to minimize what happened on that day.

Disappointing.

I'm not minimizing anything. Trump was a sore loser and made stupid claims for 2 months. Some idiots took these claims to heart and decided to invade the Capitol building. There was no organized or well planned attempt to take any real action. Notice that the vast majority of people just milled around there and didn't do anything. Order was restored within 3 hours. The only person killed was one of the rioters.

That's the truth of what happened. Trump's comments between the election and January 6 were irresponsible and stupid, but this wasn't an actual threat to democracy. I have stated all along that I felt Biden legitimately won (though shady things contributed to that win, such as the censorship of the Hunter story). I never supported the January 6 riots in any way, and have stated all along that those people should be tracked down and prosecuted.

There is no ongoing "threat to democracy" from this. It's a stupid left wing narrative in order to make Democrats look like the party of democracy, and Republicans being fascist tyrants who want to strongarm themselves into power. It's especially hilarious given that Democrats actually violated democracy within their own party by rigging the primary against Bernie when it appeared he was likely to win. Biden wouldn't have even been the candidate had the DNC not meddled. They don't give a shit about democracy or the will of the people.

Believing that January 6 was a threat to democracy is just as naive as believing that white supremacy is a serious danger to this country.

[Daly]

A group of powerless retards attempted to force a different result for the election, mostly by milling around the Capitol aimlessly, and it was shut down within 3 hours. Everything returned to normal, and Congress went right back into session.

If that's the "threat to democracy", I think we're pretty safe.

You truly have to be a delusional moron to frame it like this.

Intelligence has always been in short supply with you.

Someone here is delusional

[Jayjami]

Believing that January 6 was a threat to democracy is just as naive as believing that white supremacy is a serious danger to this country.

Lol. Like you know anything about white supremacy, You grew up in Rancho Palos Verdes! Here is something you might not be aware of: they hate fucking Jews.

[Sanlmar]

Poll: Half of Americans now predict U.S. may 'cease to be a democracy' someday

A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows that most Democrats (55%) and Republicans (53%) now believe it is “likely” that America will “cease to be a democracy in the future” — a stunning expression of bipartisan despair about the direction of the country.

Half of all Americans (49%) express the same sentiment when independents and those who do not declare any political affiliation are factored in, while just a quarter (25%) consider the end of U.S. democracy unlikely and another quarter (25%) say they’re unsure.

This is because there's two separate concerns -- one from each side.

Democrats are screaming "MUH DEMOCRACY" and "MUH JANUARY 6" over that incident, and feel that further Republican rule will seek to remove voting rights and overturn elections.

Republicans feel that the government in engaging in an incredible overreach of power, and now has the cooperation of spineless corporations and mainstream media.

Both sides basically fear the other turning the country into a dictatorship. Not good.

You are reacting as if the poll results are a response to the last 24 hr news cycle. It’s a symptom of the new media and it’s fans. This is wrong. The lack of respect or faith in the democratic institutions has been building in a logarithmic fashion, with justification, for 30 years.

The 50 year anniversary of the Watergate “break in” was the other day. While political shenanigans always existed - Americans were positively shook. I choose to mark that date as ground zero. There are consequences and Tricky Dick hurt America permanently. Btw, John Dean was a traitor too Ivanka. Wish him a Happy Father's Day

You cite Jan 6. That event was inevitable and certainly won’t be the last of its kind. Fencing off the Supreme Court and citizens stalking the Supreme Court judge’s homes. Yeah, that always used to happen.

One aspect of this site is it’s history. Mumbles and I explicitly predicted pitchforks in the streets back in 2016. BLM riots and Jan 6.

Lengthen your time horizon and think more deeply.

[sonatine]

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more of druffs super stable genius party being stable geniuses.

[Sloppy Joe]

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Good for Druff to see that his party is returning to its commitment to democracy and family roots, that definitely loves Jews and isn't doubling down on Trump lies.

[sonatine]

cool cool totally normal and civilized discourse coming from the stable genius party.

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[Sloppy Joe]

cool cool totally normal and civilized discourse coming from the stable genius party.

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Good look from Grietens, who espouses your normal family values such as beating the shit out of your wife and kids and blackmailing mistresses.

Throw in a little campaign finance chicanery to boost.

What about the squad tho?

[MumblesBadly]

This is because there's two separate concerns -- one from each side.

Democrats are screaming "MUH DEMOCRACY" and "MUH JANUARY 6" over that incident, and feel that further Republican rule will seek to remove voting rights and overturn elections.

Republicans feel that the government in engaging in an incredible overreach of power, and now has the cooperation of spineless corporations and mainstream media.

Both sides basically fear the other turning the country into a dictatorship. Not good.

You are reacting as if the poll results are a response to the last 24 hr news cycle. It’s a symptom of the new media and it’s fans. This is wrong. The lack of respect or faith in the democratic institutions has been building in a logarithmic fashion, with justification, for 30 years.

The 50 year anniversary of the Watergate “break in” was the other day. While political shenanigans always existed - Americans were positively shook. I choose to mark that date as ground zero. There are consequences and Tricky Dick hurt America permanently. Btw, John Dean was a traitor too Ivanka. Wish him a Happy Father's Day

You cite Jan 6. That event was inevitable and certainly won’t be the last of its kind. Fencing off the Supreme Court and citizens stalking the Supreme Court judge’s homes. Yeah, that always used to happen.

One aspect of this site is it’s history. Mumbles and I explicitly predicted pitchforks in the streets back in 2016. BLM riots and Jan 6.

Lengthen your time horizon and think more deeply.

Druff conflates “Republicans fear that the demographics of rising non-white voter participication will give Democrats an increasing advantage at the polls” with the fraudulent claim that “Republicans fear the Democrats will turn the country into a leftist dictatorship”, all while GOPs are fightinh tooth-and-nail to make it harder for mostly non-white voters to be able to legally vote AND support (or ignore) Trump and his coup co-conspirators’ attempt to illegally keep Trump in office as President.

Well, on the last matter, not ALL Republicans/conservatives go all or ignore Trump et al’s seditious criminality.