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    I love how Druff is always like " well I believe those facts are wrong because of my feelings".

     
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    i mean respectfully what about his post actually surprised you?
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    i mean respectfully what about his post actually surprised you?
    Good point Tine.
    I guess his history with talking to women online. From where I come from my Jewish friends either married Jewish or went the total other way and date Asian women or total whoremongers that will never marry.

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    I don't believe that 94% of US people approve of interracial marriage. I think maybe 94% of people say they do because they don't want to be honest about their true feelings.

    Just about every race has a fairly large contingent of people -- especially older ones -- who do not like interracial marriage. It's not always about racism, either. It's just about wanting to see kids/grandkids which look like them and have the same cultural history.

    White parents often want to see their kids marry white people. Black parents often want to see their kids marry black people. Asian parents not only often want to see their kids marry Asian people, but frequently the same nationality Asian as they are. Hispanic parents often want to see their kids marry Hispanic people.

    I think there really should be two questions:

    1) Does it bother you when you see interracial couples?

    2) Would you prefer your children marry within their own race?


    I'm sure the answer to question #2 would be majority yes (across all races), if people answer honestly.
    Anecdotal racism trumps hard data everytime in the world of the incel alt right.
    "Do you have a problem with interracial marriage" and "Do you have a problem with your kid marrying interracially" are two very different questions.

    Many people don't give a shit about what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect them. The days of people being shocked by interracial couples are long over, but LOL if you believe that 94% of Americans are cool with their kids marrying outside their race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padre33 View Post
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    I don't believe that 94% of US people approve of interracial marriage. I think maybe 94% of people say they do because they don't want to be honest about their true feelings.

    Just about every race has a fairly large contingent of people -- especially older ones -- who do not like interracial marriage. It's not always about racism, either. It's just about wanting to see kids/grandkids which look like them and have the same cultural history.

    White parents often want to see their kids marry white people. Black parents often want to see their kids marry black people. Asian parents not only often want to see their kids marry Asian people, but frequently the same nationality Asian as they are. Hispanic parents often want to see their kids marry Hispanic people.

    I think there really should be two questions:

    1) Does it bother you when you see interracial couples?

    2) Would you prefer your children marry within their own race?
    1. Not in the slightest.

    2. My son is half Asian. I am half Mexican. I don't care who my son dates, currently he dates a half black half White girl. My mom has never said she wishes I date a White girl and my Dad never pushed that BS on me either.

    I never wanted to date a Mexican girl anyway cause I was scared of their black arm hair from when I was a child. The cholas used to corner and ask me why I always went for White Girls. I didn't tell them their body hair frightened me.

    Druff you are better than this. A lot of mutts these days and I'm sure some people hope their kids marry out of their race..

    People who are already mixed race do not tend to care about their kids further racial mixing, because the racial mixing has already been done.

    I was speaking about the general attitudes people have regarding their children racially mixing. I was not speaking of myself. I haven't stated my own opinion about this matter.

    Not all people have a problem with their children marrying outside their race, but many do, across all races. I have to imagine that the only ones who HOPE their kids date outside their race are white liberals, who always want to award themselves tolerance points. The rest of the population tends to either not care either way, or does prefer their kids date their own kind.

    Like many polls put out by left wing outlets, this "94% don't have a problem with interracial marriage" is very misleading, for reasons I already stated. The poll was intentionally designed to be this way, so libs like sonatine could share them on social media and pat themselves on the back for not being part of the evil white supremacists who hate interracial dating. Virtue signaling at its finest.

    A similar misleading poll could be done about gay relationships. If asked, "Do you have a problem with gay people dating one another?", almost everyone would say, "No, I don't have a problem with that." If asked, "Would it bother you if your kid was gay?", you'd see very different numbers.

    Libs love to feel good about themselves, though, so expect these nonsense polls to keep coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A black man once told me that interracial marriage is the epitome of racism. Just sayin'
    -3500 it was Tony Bigcharles

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    1. Not in the slightest.

    2. My son is half Asian. I am half Mexican. I don't care who my son dates, currently he dates a half black half White girl. My mom has never said she wishes I date a White girl and my Dad never pushed that BS on me either.

    I never wanted to date a Mexican girl anyway cause I was scared of their black arm hair from when I was a child. The cholas used to corner and ask me why I always went for White Girls. I didn't tell them their body hair frightened me.

    Druff you are better than this. A lot of mutts these days and I'm sure some people hope their kids marry out of their race..

    People who are already mixed race do not tend to care about their kids further racial mixing, because the racial mixing has already been done.

    I was speaking about the general attitudes people have regarding their children racially mixing. I was not speaking of myself. I haven't stated my own opinion about this matter.

    Not all people have a problem with their children marrying outside their race, but many do, across all races. I have to imagine that the only ones who HOPE their kids date outside their race are white liberals, who always want to award themselves tolerance points. The rest of the population tends to either not care either way, or does prefer their kids date their own kind.

    Like many polls put out by left wing outlets, this "94% don't have a problem with interracial marriage" is very misleading, for reasons I already stated. The poll was intentionally designed to be this way, so libs like sonatine could share them on social media and pat themselves on the back for not being part of the evil white supremacists who hate interracial dating. Virtue signaling at its finest.

    A similar misleading poll could be done about gay relationships. If asked, "Do you have a problem with gay people dating one another?", almost everyone would say, "No, I don't have a problem with that." If asked, "Would it bother you if your kid was gay?", you'd see very different numbers.

    Libs love to feel good about themselves, though, so expect these nonsense polls to keep coming.
    By law, aren’t Jews both a race and religion? Like technically Ben is mixed race, albeit, I’m sure most couldn’t tell.

    Like if I had kids, I’d prefer my daughter to marry an Asian kid. He’s very likely going to be smart. Non-violent. Strong family. I wouldn’t mind a Jew either for the same reasons.

    A son I’d care less than a daughter.

    But it wouldn’t have anything to do with being a democrat, just because I’d be playing the averages.

    You said you were quite fast. You’re tall. If Ben has a taste for a schwartza, which it seems quite a few Jews do, and has your stature, you could be looking at a potential center fielder and not have to worry about stubhub.

    In reality, no one much cares about who their kid marries unless the person is black. That’s more common than 6%, I agree. Especially our peers.


    I feel like even most Hispanics are kind of where Italians were in the 60s and 70s and often almost thought of as white unless they just crossed the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    People who are already mixed race do not tend to care about their kids further racial mixing, because the racial mixing has already been done.

    I was speaking about the general attitudes people have regarding their children racially mixing. I was not speaking of myself. I haven't stated my own opinion about this matter.

    Not all people have a problem with their children marrying outside their race, but many do, across all races. I have to imagine that the only ones who HOPE their kids date outside their race are white liberals, who always want to award themselves tolerance points. The rest of the population tends to either not care either way, or does prefer their kids date their own kind.

    Like many polls put out by left wing outlets, this "94% don't have a problem with interracial marriage" is very misleading, for reasons I already stated. The poll was intentionally designed to be this way, so libs like sonatine could share them on social media and pat themselves on the back for not being part of the evil white supremacists who hate interracial dating. Virtue signaling at its finest.

    A similar misleading poll could be done about gay relationships. If asked, "Do you have a problem with gay people dating one another?", almost everyone would say, "No, I don't have a problem with that." If asked, "Would it bother you if your kid was gay?", you'd see very different numbers.

    Libs love to feel good about themselves, though, so expect these nonsense polls to keep coming.
    By law, aren’t Jews both a race and religion? Like technically Ben is mixed race, albeit, I’m sure most couldn’t tell.

    Like if I had kids, I’d prefer my daughter to marry an Asian kid. He’s very likely going to be smart. Non-violent. Strong family. I wouldn’t mind a Jew either for the same reasons.

    A son I’d care less than a daughter.

    But it wouldn’t have anything to do with being a democrat, just because I’d be playing the averages.

    You said you were quite fast. You’re tall. If Ben has a taste for a schwartza, which it seems quite a few Jews do, and has your stature, you could be looking at a potential center fielder and not have to worry about stubhub.

    In reality, no one much cares about who their kid marries unless the person is black. That’s more common than 6%, I agree. Especially our peers.


    I feel like even most Hispanics are kind of where Italians were in the 60s and 70s and often almost thought of as white unless they just crossed the border.

    What a parent “prefers” has nothing to do with anything. If you were to poll zoomers (the people who are doing the mating) it would be near 100% approval. Even the few of those who might object would never admit it today.

    Furthermore, reality informs us that the zoomers aren’t marrying til past 30 if at all (demographic cliff stuff) so whatever the parents prefer is completely irrelevant. No parent is even paying for weddings at this point - whatever that form of approval used to have.

    This an absurdist “ how many angels dance on the head of a pin” discussion and I’m not even sure how it is alt right.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    By law, aren’t Jews both a race and religion? Like technically Ben is mixed race, albeit, I’m sure most couldn’t tell.

    Like if I had kids, I’d prefer my daughter to marry an Asian kid. He’s very likely going to be smart. Non-violent. Strong family. I wouldn’t mind a Jew either for the same reasons.

    A son I’d care less than a daughter.

    But it wouldn’t have anything to do with being a democrat, just because I’d be playing the averages.

    You said you were quite fast. You’re tall. If Ben has a taste for a schwartza, which it seems quite a few Jews do, and has your stature, you could be looking at a potential center fielder and not have to worry about stubhub.

    In reality, no one much cares about who their kid marries unless the person is black. That’s more common than 6%, I agree. Especially our peers.


    I feel like even most Hispanics are kind of where Italians were in the 60s and 70s and often almost thought of as white unless they just crossed the border.

    What a parent “prefers” has nothing to do with anything. If you were to poll zoomers (the people who are doing the mating) it would be near 100% approval. Even the few of those who might object would never admit it today.

    Furthermore, reality informs us that the zoomers aren’t marrying til past 30 if at all (demographic cliff stuff) so whatever the parents prefer is completely irrelevant. No parent is even paying for weddings at this point - whatever that form of approval used to have.

    This an absurdist “ how many angels dance on the head of a pin” discussion and I’m not even sure how it is alt right.
    Educated kids marry after 30.

    Other kids have 3 kids by 22. Most kids aren’t private school followed by private university.

    I just know I hear a further statement every time someone has a daughter dating a Jalen despite the fact I require no clarification. They feel a need to add a further explanation like “he seems like a very nice kid so far.” It’s how you know they don’t love the notion.

    I hear no similar explanation in any other circumstance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    What a parent “prefers” has nothing to do with anything. If you were to poll zoomers (the people who are doing the mating) it would be near 100% approval. Even the few of those who might object would never admit it today.

    Furthermore, reality informs us that the zoomers aren’t marrying til past 30 if at all (demographic cliff stuff) so whatever the parents prefer is completely irrelevant. No parent is even paying for weddings at this point - whatever that form of approval used to have.

    This an absurdist “ how many angels dance on the head of a pin” discussion and I’m not even sure how it is alt right.
    Educated kids marry after 30.

    Other kids have 3 kids by 22. Most kids aren’t private school followed by private university.

    I just know I hear a further statement every time someone has a daughter dating a Jalen despite the fact I require no clarification. They feel a need to add a further explanation like “he seems like a very nice kid so far.” It’s how you know they don’t love the notion.

    I hear no similar explanation in any other circumstance.
    Marriage rates are higher the more educated you are. More educated people are getting married later

    Conversely, the less educated you are the less likely you are to be married.

    It’s fun stereotype but the truth is few 22 year olds are having 3 kids. They are still in moms basement. The median age of marriage is definitely close to 30 now regardless of education.

    I can only presume it has to do with the feelings about financial stability.

    Sonatine’s OP referenced marriage - if we are to maintain even the slimmest tie to the assertion

    Parents don’t have anything to do with inter racial marriage. Also, the assertion that Asians and Hispanics are more likely to stay racially pure is nonsense.

    Zoomers gonna do their thing. Including sterilization. Has nothing to do with parents.


    If we are to go astray - declining marriage rates, homeownership and births are not traditionally thought to be net positive for a stable society. It’s a new less stable society. That is clear
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    With regard to Trump/Bannon, if you think we are just gonna march forward seamlessly to DeSantis in Trump/Bannon’s absence I think you are sadly misunderstanding the Trump years and the collective forces that brought him to bear.

    Populism is definitely still as strong as ever but politics being what it is you need a machine. Bannon had the machine and the money. That’s gone now.

    At the most elemental level, no matter what happens to Trump he is never endorsing DeSantis. Trump is only wired to care about Trump. This is dispassionately a fact. Bannon says he recognized this very early on. It wasn’t viewed as a defect - it was a feature at the time. Trump was recognized as a savant.

    DeSantis has nothing to trade either. He can’t even pardon Trump some day.


    The interview above reminds us shockingly that Roger Ailes and Fox originally hated Trump. Fun fact Megyn Kelly was the Fox debate moderator

    “You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals,'" Kelly charged. Trump destroyed her and the public loved it. Ailes begged for mercy and abandoned Kelly. The only outlet behind Trump at the time was Breitbart and the Mercer fortune. Great stuff.

    I think both sides are monumentally and hopelessly defective now but I love to study the genius and the game. It’s entertaining. Similarly, we loved reading about the Third Reich in high school. I still love the Nazis retiring to South America story. Doesn’t mean I approve but the game is the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    With regard to Trump/Bannon, if you think we are just gonna march forward seamlessly to DeSantis in Trump/Bannon’s absence I think you are sadly misunderstanding the Trump years and the collective forces that brought him to bear.

    Populism is definitely still as strong as ever but politics being what it is you need a machine. Bannon had the machine and the money. That’s gone now.

    At the most elemental level, no matter what happens to Trump he is never endorsing DeSantis. Trump is only wired to care about Trump. This is dispassionately a fact. Bannon says he recognized this very early on. It wasn’t viewed as a defect - it was a feature at the time. Trump was recognized as a savant.

    DeSantis has nothing to trade either. He can’t even pardon Trump some day.


    The interview above reminds us shockingly that Roger Ailes and Fox originally hated Trump. Fun fact Megyn Kelly was the Fox debate moderator

    “You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals,'" Kelly charged. Trump destroyed her and the public loved it. Ailes begged for mercy and abandoned Kelly. The only outlet behind Trump at the time was Breitbart and the Mercer fortune. Great stuff.

    I think both sides are monumentally and hopelessly defective now but I love to study the genius and the game. It’s entertaining. Similarly, we loved reading about the Third Reich in high school. I still love the Nazis retiring to South America story. Doesn’t mean I approve but the game is the game.
    I was quoting Druff, who was referencing kids and concern your grandkids look like you.

    We live in disparate areas. My world, kids are either your daughter and probably have t even had sex while in college, or have 3 kids by 22, often by a black kid. I know half a dozen who at one point were ready to disown them, but they end up loving that grandkid and they’re their shadow most of the time.

    The one caveat with Trump is indictment, with some deal struck with Desantis regarding a later pardon. It’s my hope for why I don’t want to see Trump indicted. I want to see them tear each other apart.

    That said, its looking increasingly like any GOP will do if they don’t replace Biden, and it becomes 2020 all over with any Dem will do situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
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    A black man once told me that interracial marriage is the epitome of racism. Just sayin'
    -3500 it was Tony Bigcharles
    Tony isn't black. He's half Cree Indian and half European.

    The remark from the black man was back in the 80's, long before all this woke ass bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    With regard to Trump/Bannon, if you think we are just gonna march forward seamlessly to DeSantis in Trump/Bannon’s absence I think you are sadly misunderstanding the Trump years and the collective forces that brought him to bear.

    Populism is definitely still as strong as ever but politics being what it is you need a machine. Bannon had the machine and the money. That’s gone now.

    At the most elemental level, no matter what happens to Trump he is never endorsing DeSantis. Trump is only wired to care about Trump. This is dispassionately a fact. Bannon says he recognized this very early on. It wasn’t viewed as a defect - it was a feature at the time. Trump was recognized as a savant.

    DeSantis has nothing to trade either. He can’t even pardon Trump some day.


    The interview above reminds us shockingly that Roger Ailes and Fox originally hated Trump. Fun fact Megyn Kelly was the Fox debate moderator

    “You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals,'" Kelly charged. Trump destroyed her and the public loved it. Ailes begged for mercy and abandoned Kelly. The only outlet behind Trump at the time was Breitbart and the Mercer fortune. Great stuff.

    I think both sides are monumentally and hopelessly defective now but I love to study the genius and the game. It’s entertaining. Similarly, we loved reading about the Third Reich in high school. I still love the Nazis retiring to South America story. Doesn’t mean I approve but the game is the game.
    I was quoting Druff, who was referencing kids and concern your grandkids look like you.

    We live in disparate areas. My world, kids are either your daughter and probably have t even had sex while in college, or have 3 kids by 22, often by a black kid. I know half a dozen who at one point were ready to disown them, but they end up loving that grandkid and they’re their shadow most of the time.

    The one caveat with Trump is indictment, with some deal struck with Desantis regarding a later pardon. It’s my hope for why I don’t want to see Trump indicted. I want to see them tear each other apart.

    That said, its looking increasingly like any GOP will do if they don’t replace Biden, and it becomes 2020 all over with any Dem will do situation.
    A Washington, D.C jury is a stacked jury. A republican can easily be convicted of eating a ham sandwich in Washington, D.C. Trump won't need a pardon. Any conviction will be thrown out by SCOTUS.
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