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    does anyone else now think Trump has a chance?

    my opinion has come full circle and i now think he probably has an even chance of winning this. Not betting it, but damn sure wouldn't be surprised if he pulls this off. The Courts will be involved regardless of which side wins. That is guaranteed.

     
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    I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.

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    Zero chance.

    People are sick of Trump.

    Every single day we have to put up with his bullshit.

    When Barack Obama was President, months went by with no problems or drama.

    But don't worry. Trump’s going to buy Trump Island, where some of the morons who supported him can move to, you can live there tax free and be ruled by him forever.


     
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    i dont think his chances have changed at all. i think hes still a heavy favorite.

    his base absolutely does not care about the usual shit that gets people elected. this is their version of tearing down the system.

    and thats super unfortunate because the average trump voter is an economically endangered species; the think they are liberating themselves from something thats destroying the middle class but what they are actually getting is:



    its going to be rough but the silver lining is that president AOC is going to show up with like 90% of the EC once the bible belt connects the dots that the soup kitchen meals keeping their families healthy for the next 4 years are literally socialism.
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    i think he has a real chance but like 35%

    1/3 of the electorate has already voted and most of them are democrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Zero chance.

    People are sick of Trump.

    Every single day we have to put up with his bullshit.

    When Barack Obama was President, months went by with no problems or drama.

    But don't worry. Trump’s going to buy Trump Island, where some of the morons who supported him can move to, you can live there tax free and be ruled by him forever.


    Guess ya missed the memo about the massive Trump car parade outside of NYC that stretched over 85miles that happened over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.
    Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.
    Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.
    Your two individual anecdotes are highly predictive of the entire country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
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    I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.
    Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.
    Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.
    There are many more of us who haven’t participated in polls of any type and voted for Trump. Biden supporters have made their choice known in many ways and we think, have your fun for now, it will be over soon....

    The multitudes are lying in wait against all your too liberal nonsense bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post

    Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.
    There are many more of us who haven’t participated in polls of any type and voted for Trump. Biden supporters have made their choice known in many ways and we think, have your fun for now, it will be over soon....

    The multitudes are lying in wait against all your too liberal nonsense bullshit.
    You still have a chance to convert me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    my opinion has come full circle and i now think he probably has an even chance of winning this. Not betting it, but damn sure wouldn't be surprised if he pulls this off. The Courts will be involved regardless of which side wins. That is guaranteed.
    The stupid just keeps rolling. First off, does anyone else now think Trump has a chance?

    What kind of backwater English is this?

    And what about the "now"? Did something just happen? You kinda left that one alone.

    And the courts. If the popular vote is not enough then you are a failed

    democratic system. Point blank ridiculous

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    Biden is as likely to win South Carolina as trump is to win Wisconsin or Michigan


    Biden is as likely to win Kansas as trump is to win PA

    When GA and TX are in play then you know it's not going to be close

    Just common sense really


    I'm most concerned about the Senate

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Biden is as likely to win South Carolina as trump is to win Wisconsin or Michigan


    Biden is as likely to win Kansas as trump is to win PA

    When GA and TX are in play then you know it's not going to be close

    Just common sense really


    I'm most concerned about the Senate
    Trump is indeed possibly going to win MI and that’s thankful to that dumb cunt Whitmer. The citizens of MI are sick and tired of her tyrannical bullshit and if Trump wins MI it’ll be because of backlash against Whitmer

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    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has maintained a steady job approval rating with a majority of Michigan voters despite election-year sniping by President Donald Trump, whose job approval is about 15 percentage points lower, according to a Detroit News-WDIV-TV poll released Tuesday.

    Nearly 54% of Michigan voters view the Democratic governor favorably and 59% approve of the job she's doing, according to the Oct. 23-25 survey of 600 likely Michigan voters. The job approval number inches up to 61% about her handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the survey, which had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percentage points.

    The poll by the Lansing-based Glengariff Group found 37% viewed Whitmer unfavorably, 38% disapproved of the job she is doing and 37% disapproved of her handling of the pandemic.

    Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, left, and President Donald Trump
    The job approval ratings are a slight uptick from an early September Detroit News-WDIV poll, an increase that falls within margin of error.

    By contrast, Trump's job performance remained consistent at 44% approval and 52% disapproval — a double-digit contrast with Whitmer. The Republican president's handling of the pandemic dropped to a 55% disapproval rating and 39% approval — a more than 20-point gap with the governor.

    Trump has frequently criticized Whitmer's early shutdown order and subsequent COVID-19 restrictions that were eased during the summer after cases declined. When he criticized the governor and called for opening more schools and businesses amid the pandemic, his supporters at an Oct. 17 Muskegon rally and Tuesday's Lansing rally started chanting "Lock her up."

    The largest factor driving Whitmer's popularity are Trump's attacks on her, Glengariff Group pollstrer Richard Czuba said.

    The continual attacks on Whitmer, he said, "may be one of the single, biggest bonehead political moves I’ve seen this election.

    "If your job is to attract women in an area where you’re doing poorly, attacking Gov. Whitmer is not the way to do that," Czuba said. "It's reflected in her polls and his polls.”

    Among other things, Trump has described Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," which her supporters quickly translated to "That woman from Michigan." When she criticized how protective equipment that Michigan and other states needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic was going to the federal government, he called her "Gretchen 'Half' Whitmer" on Twitter.

    Trump's favorability rating in the same poll came in at 40% favorable and 53% unfavorable, numbers that have remained consistent for the president's nearly four years in office, he said.

    Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was viewed favorably among 46% of voters and unfavorably by 47%. Whitmer is a national co-chair of Biden's campaign and was considered for the vice presidential nomination that went to U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

    "The presidential numbers and Gov. Whitmer’s numbers are so interconnected here," Czuba said. "Just as President Trump is getting shellacked in southeast Michigan, Gov. Whitmer is getting her strongest numbers in southeast Michigan.”

    In addition, Czuba said, Whitmer is doing "very well" with outstate women. This development "undercuts Republican strength just as it's undercutting the president’s campaign right now," he said.

    Voters' approval of Whitmer's handling of the pandemic increased to 71% approval among Metro Detroit voters and fell to 52% approval among outstate voters. Among rural voters, 48% approved of the governor's handling of the pandemic while 51% disapproved.

    Whitmer's pandemic approval also increases among voters over the age of 65, an age group from which she captured a 75% approval rating.

    It came as no surprise to Mark Tennenhouse of Troy to hear that Trump's comments about the governor could be reflected in their divergent job approval numbers.

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    "I absolutely believe that there’s a correlation,” Tennenhouse said.

    "But I do support what she’s doing,” he said. "She is taking the coronavirus very seriously, and I think we need to exercise caution before we open everything up and try to get back to normal.”

    Yvonne Babe may be a bit of an outlier.

    The 75-year-old East Tawas woman voted for Whitmer in 2018 but expressed strong disapproval of the governor's COVID-19 response in the poll. She plans to vote a Republican ticket on Nov. 3.

    The governor has an "air of arrogance" and is more interested in the lives of her constituents in southeast Michigan than outstate communities, Babe said.

    "Her whole campaign message was to fix the damn roads," Babe said. "Well, she hasn’t. And it would have been a perfect time while we were locked in our homes for road crews to go out and fix the damn roads.”

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    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ll/6051858002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has maintained a steady job approval rating with a majority of Michigan voters despite election-year sniping by President Donald Trump, whose job approval is about 15 percentage points lower, according to a Detroit News-WDIV-TV poll released Tuesday.

    Nearly 54% of Michigan voters view the Democratic governor favorably and 59% approve of the job she's doing, according to the Oct. 23-25 survey of 600 likely Michigan voters. The job approval number inches up to 61% about her handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the survey, which had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percentage points.

    The poll by the Lansing-based Glengariff Group found 37% viewed Whitmer unfavorably, 38% disapproved of the job she is doing and 37% disapproved of her handling of the pandemic.

    Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, left, and President Donald Trump
    The job approval ratings are a slight uptick from an early September Detroit News-WDIV poll, an increase that falls within margin of error.

    By contrast, Trump's job performance remained consistent at 44% approval and 52% disapproval — a double-digit contrast with Whitmer. The Republican president's handling of the pandemic dropped to a 55% disapproval rating and 39% approval — a more than 20-point gap with the governor.

    Trump has frequently criticized Whitmer's early shutdown order and subsequent COVID-19 restrictions that were eased during the summer after cases declined. When he criticized the governor and called for opening more schools and businesses amid the pandemic, his supporters at an Oct. 17 Muskegon rally and Tuesday's Lansing rally started chanting "Lock her up."

    The largest factor driving Whitmer's popularity are Trump's attacks on her, Glengariff Group pollstrer Richard Czuba said.

    The continual attacks on Whitmer, he said, "may be one of the single, biggest bonehead political moves I’ve seen this election.

    "If your job is to attract women in an area where you’re doing poorly, attacking Gov. Whitmer is not the way to do that," Czuba said. "It's reflected in her polls and his polls.”

    Among other things, Trump has described Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," which her supporters quickly translated to "That woman from Michigan." When she criticized how protective equipment that Michigan and other states needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic was going to the federal government, he called her "Gretchen 'Half' Whitmer" on Twitter.

    Trump's favorability rating in the same poll came in at 40% favorable and 53% unfavorable, numbers that have remained consistent for the president's nearly four years in office, he said.

    Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was viewed favorably among 46% of voters and unfavorably by 47%. Whitmer is a national co-chair of Biden's campaign and was considered for the vice presidential nomination that went to U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

    "The presidential numbers and Gov. Whitmer’s numbers are so interconnected here," Czuba said. "Just as President Trump is getting shellacked in southeast Michigan, Gov. Whitmer is getting her strongest numbers in southeast Michigan.”

    In addition, Czuba said, Whitmer is doing "very well" with outstate women. This development "undercuts Republican strength just as it's undercutting the president’s campaign right now," he said.

    Voters' approval of Whitmer's handling of the pandemic increased to 71% approval among Metro Detroit voters and fell to 52% approval among outstate voters. Among rural voters, 48% approved of the governor's handling of the pandemic while 51% disapproved.

    Whitmer's pandemic approval also increases among voters over the age of 65, an age group from which she captured a 75% approval rating.

    It came as no surprise to Mark Tennenhouse of Troy to hear that Trump's comments about the governor could be reflected in their divergent job approval numbers.

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    "I absolutely believe that there’s a correlation,” Tennenhouse said.

    "But I do support what she’s doing,” he said. "She is taking the coronavirus very seriously, and I think we need to exercise caution before we open everything up and try to get back to normal.”

    Yvonne Babe may be a bit of an outlier.

    The 75-year-old East Tawas woman voted for Whitmer in 2018 but expressed strong disapproval of the governor's COVID-19 response in the poll. She plans to vote a Republican ticket on Nov. 3.

    The governor has an "air of arrogance" and is more interested in the lives of her constituents in southeast Michigan than outstate communities, Babe said.

    "Her whole campaign message was to fix the damn roads," Babe said. "Well, she hasn’t. And it would have been a perfect time while we were locked in our homes for road crews to go out and fix the damn roads.”

    eleblanc@detroitnews.com


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ll/6051858002/
    TLDR

    Trump wins Michigan.

    Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
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    Biden is as likely to win South Carolina as trump is to win Wisconsin or Michigan


    Biden is as likely to win Kansas as trump is to win PA

    When GA and TX are in play then you know it's not going to be close

    Just common sense really


    I'm most concerned about the Senate
    Trump is indeed possibly going to win MI and that’s thankful to that dumb cunt Whitmer. The citizens of MI are sick and tired of her tyrannical bullshit and if Trump wins MI it’ll be because of backlash against Whitmer
    1ST you say stupid shit like this

    then I disprove the nonsense that you're spouting and then you start talking some other nonsense


    TIK TOK BUD TIK TOK

    6 DAYS and all of this will be over


    senate, house and oval office will be under DEM rule


    I suggest you prepare yourself now as it will make it less painful

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post

    6 DAYS and all of this will be over


    senate, house and oval office will be under DEM rule


    I suggest you prepare yourself now as it will make it less painful
    thanks for the tip, i'll start hiding my firearms and ammo
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    my opinion has come full circle and i now think he probably has an even chance of winning this. Not betting it, but damn sure wouldn't be surprised if he pulls this off. The Courts will be involved regardless of which side wins. That is guaranteed.
    The stupid just keeps rolling. First off, does anyone else now think Trump has a chance?

    What kind of backwater English is this?

    And what about the "now"? Did something just happen? You kinda left that one alone.

    And the courts. If the popular vote is not enough then you are a failed

    democratic system. Point blank ridiculous
    US has never been a democratic system, sure it might work in Canada with an entire country of bumpkins that all live within 100 miles of the mighty USA...but not here, too diverse for a true democracy.

     
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