Youtube Slot Community and SlotLady

[Mission146]

The one thing that can never be taken away from them is that they absolutely show winning and losing sessions.

I can definitely appreciate when a channel shows a good representation of wins and loses. I like this not so much for my benefit, but I think it is good for new gamblers, it shows them that you do lose.

Even though I would like to give Victor and Sarah credit for showing winning and losing sessions, I do not believe they are doing this to be fair or to show an accurate representation of their play.

So why are they doing this?
Because they HAVE TO!

The cost of "producing" an episode is there whether you win or lose. The edge on some of the table games they play isn't so bad but slots are a different story. I know this is something that can be calculated, but let's say on an 8% hold you lose 4 out of 5 sessions on a 30 minute session. I believe they want to put out an episode daily, as do most slot channels.

To get 30 winning episodes, they would need to film 150. Obviously, optimal Blackjack play would be fairly close to 1 to 2.

I'm sure most slot channels, at least in the earlier stages divide their revenue by 30 days, then they know what a daily video "cost", and what they can afford to lose. Eventually, your revenue will exceed the cost to make the video, but this only happens for the very top channels, for most, they still spend more than they earn. I bet Sarah was earning at least 3x what she was spending at one point, back when the channel was profitable.

Ultimately, I think showing losing sessions is a must for them or 1 of 2 things would eventually happen:
1. Run out of content to post
2. Drop down to lower denomination slots/tables/scratchers

I think they view it as... The episodes are already "paid for", win or lose - Gotta post em'.

I agree that this is for the benefit of people who haven't done a lot of gambling so that they don't, somehow, get the misimpression that the goal of slot machines is for people to just sit down and print money on them.

Whether or not anyone wishes to give them credit for showing wins and losses, it is not even a debatable subject that some channels do not show losses and whatever the profit/recoup of loss motivations, we agree that this is good for viewers who don't have a lot of experience with gambling anyway.

I obviously don't know for sure, but am inclined to agree with everything else you said.

[PositiveVariance]

The content I have, if shown would have had the video removed instantly. The thumbnail of my video is the most PG of the content I could show.

EZ,

It sounds like what you have is an image?


Since there may be a potential issue with You Tube, and them possibly removing the video for a Community Guildlines violation, would you be willing to post the picture here - In this thread?

[ptdatabase]

[JeffDime]

Hitting rock bottom for most gambling addicts means going broke. But for the foreseeable future this channel & all the other ancillary income will keep him going. In addition, he has conveniently set up his addiction as his and his girlfriend/wife’s living. The gambling problem not only keeps his addiction going, it also seemingly provides a living for these two people. So the rationale that he must keep going is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Depends on how you look at it, but creating Slot Lady was both the best & worst thing Victor could have possibly done. They have scaled back and done what they have had to, but as long as they can squeeze enough money to keep going, Victor will continue to lash out like this until he has some kind of psychotic break I guess. The way he acts would not be tolerated in most casinos. The El Cortez seems to have been built completely without any spine. With the money coming in and a casino tolerating his nonsense…he isn’t leaning anytime soon.

It’s not pretty, but I really can’t feel bad for them. Especially with all that’s going on in the world right now. Only in 2023 can you have a massive gambling problem, continue gambling and keeping paying the rent. What a World.

Yes Victor, you have a massive gambling problem. Massive. BTW that’s what happens when you play carnival games & slots a lot. You lose. That’s the way it goes. You fucking lose. Now shut the fuck up about it. Realize how lucky you are that you have never had to work a day since this channel blew up. Think you would be well served to realize that. Think if this channel was gone tommroow where the fuck would you be? Might help your attitude about losing all the time.

[JeffDime]

The content I have, if shown would have had the video removed instantly. The thumbnail of my video is the most PG of the content I could show.

EZ,

It sounds like what you have is an image?


Since there may be a potential issue with You Tube, and them possibly removing the video for a Community Guildlines violation, would you be willing to post the picture here - In this thread?

Always with the great ideas PV. Ultimately I am with Mission and don’t care what Sarah wants to do with her body. If she wanted to be one of those naked chicks Japanese businessmen eat sushi off like a platter….I wouldn’t give a shit. The reason I am so sure it was a troll post on Reddit is because the writer throws in every weird acronym possible. Lays it on super fucking thick. That doesn’t mean she hasn’t done stuff. But that’s my read.

I also may be showing my age, as there are girls nowadays that can’t wait to turn 18 to start their Only Fans page. These “normal” girls now all putting profiles on sugar daddy websites. The personality traits of a “sex worker” have simply changed as the sheer numbers & varieties of “sex work” has exploded. But still, I am very skeptical of this one tbh. But at the end of the day, I really don’t care.

[PositiveVariance]

JD, I was thinking the exact same thing about Victor. The situation he has created for himself is a terrible one. Victor realizes he has a gambling problem, however he most likely justifies it by thinking, "This is my job, I have to do it." Come the 21st of each month, he is "rewarded" in his mind for his degeneracy.

There is an almost ZERO percent chance of a person fixing their gambling problem if they are in a situation similar to Victors. Most gambling addicts have a voice in the back of their head that says, "This is wrong, but I cant stop", but they do it anyway. His voice says, "It is ok, it's our business, have at it".

His entire life revolves around the 21st of each month.

In my opinion he probably stays up the night of the 20th, in anticipation of the payment. Most likely continuously checking his online banking every few minutes to see if the YT check hit his account. I wouldn't be surprised if he immediately went for a withdrawal as soon as the deposit hits, even if it is the wee hours of the morning. I once had a friend that was a hard gambling degen and he would do all these things. He knew the money would hit at midnight. He would go to the restaurant in the casino at 11pm and order even though he has a negative or ZERO balance on his account and eat good before the money hit. Well one time, the money did not "Hit" until 4am!! He had no other options to pay. He had to WAIT! The life of a DEGEN, Folks! If Victor is not this deep yet, he soon will be. I know this story, because I was someone he contacted trying to get money that night, well at 4am I was sleeping but saw the message when I woke up, by then his w Degeneracy was in full swing at 7am.


They need to look at selling their channel. There is almost a zero percent chance Victor can continue as the face of the channel and not continue to gamble off camera. It is like an alcoholic working as a beer tester for a living. You can NOT SWITCH IT ON AND OFF. It doesn't happen.

But if he wants to try, he will have to figure out what is the expected value that it is costing him to make each video. If you do it correctly, it actually is not that much. For a half hour video, you may be -$150 on a 92% RTP slot, -$50 on Blackjack (99%RTP, $100 average bet), and then video poker -$25 (99%+ RTP).

This would only be around $75 per stream. So by rotating between the games and trying to play more Video Poker and Blackjack, your expected loss is manageable.

30 videos at $75, would only cost him a little more than $2.2k monthly. The issue is if he wins say $1k that goes back into the bankroll, that has already been computed into the EV. An addict may look at it as, "I'm playing on the Casinos money." Folks you are Never playing on the Casinos money. If you have the cash, it belongs to YOU!

As we know, he won't be able to stop at just making videos. Honestly, since he is a gambling addict, I WOULD NOT EXPECT HIM TO! Gambling addiction is a disease, it is a real thing, and there is a near zero percent chance of him recovering from it while he is forced to make daily videos gambling in a casino.

Victor, If you are smart, Sell your channel and give the money to someone you trust until you recover from your addiction. I am sure you have had offers, worth at least $250k, probably more. If you do not want to sell it, do one of the other ideas I have given you in the past. Or, make Sarah the face of the channel again, and you give up any gambling 100%.

I don't know if you guys are aware, but Tic Tok previously paid like crap at $20-$40 per MILLION views. Now, larger creators are making around $1k per MILLION if they have enough subs and the video is 1 minute long. On Tic Tok, views are much easier to come across.

It is interesting watching his journey.

[BedWetterBettor]

Degen Vic in rare form tonight, playing 3 Card Poker Live and donking $100 per hand on Pair Plus + $25 on the 6 card Bonus bet, lol!

[PositiveVariance]

I believe it was on Reddit, where I read they currently have over 3,000 people paying them $5 monthly for "Channel Memberships".

That is a cool $15k.

The life of a Degen

[PositiveVariance]

Degen Vic in rare form tonight, playing 3 Card Poker Live and donking $100 per hand on Pair Plus + $25 on the 6 card Bonus bet, lol!

I just watched a bit of this...

Victor doesn't play the ANTE?? Only the side bets? He plays the 2 optional side bets, which are the Pair Plus and 6 Card Bonus! The 2 highest house edge side bets!

This is like only playing the side bets at
Blackjack, not the main game. I have seen casinos allow this, how common is it? That I am not sure.

This is pure degeneracy, playing these "lottery" style, side bets, that pay many multiples of your original wager, hoping for a long shot , 1000 to 1 payout.

Unbelievable

[zealanddonk]

I read parts of this thread every now and then.

It seems Victor might be even more stupid than Chrissy Mitchell if that is somehow possible.

Victor had a viable product with Sarah and hes managed to fuck that up.

Everything PV has recommended are solid ideas that Victor do to stop the damage.

I look forward to seeing how this plays out.

[PositiveVariance]

From about the 20:00 minute mark on, is some of the most cringe worthy gambling content that I have ever seen.

Victor cries like a Bitch for an entire 10+ minutes. You could FEEL how the dealer just wanted to staple his mouth shut. Maybe Chrissy Mitchell could have lent her the Hotdog, to stuff in Victors mouth.

How people continuously watch Victor Bitch about how "Unlucky" he is - There is no way I could listen to him say in day out.


This shit is unreal.

[PositiveVariance]

I am always criticizing Victor, now I will give him a complement...

Regardless how you feel about tipping dealers in a casino, one thing that he does, that no doubt saves him a lot of money, is telling the dealer early on, "I will give you your tip at the end of the session".

From a player standpoint this is smart, most dealers probably don't care for it, especially from a higher limit player. Most will tip you accordingly to their overall wins or losses. Most dealers know they make most of their tips on "runs" by a player.

I can't count how many times I have seen a player tip hundreds of dollars to the dealer during a good "run", only to leave the table completely broke less than an hour later.

Victor does seem to tip regardless of winning or losing. Now, I don't know if this is really his personality or if he is doing it "for the camera". Obviously appearing generous is going to help you with your subscribers.

[Dan Druff]

I am always criticizing Victor, now I will give him a complement...

Regardless how you feel about tipping dealers in a casino, one thing that he does, that no doubt saves him a lot of money, is telling the dealer early on, "I will give you your tip at the end of the session".

From a player standpoint this is smart, most dealers probably don't care for it, especially from a higher limit player. Most will tip you accordingly to their overall wins or losses. Most dealers know they make most of their tips on "runs" by a player.

I can't count how many times I have seen a player tip hundreds of dollars to the dealer during a good "run", only to leave the table completely broke less than an hour later.

Victor does seem to tip regardless of winning or losing. Now, I don't know if this is really his personality or if he is doing it "for the camera". Obviously appearing generous is going to help you with your subscribers.

Yeah if you're doing one of these gambling video channels, you need to tip generously, or you will get a certain subset of viewers disgusted with you. It's one of those "cost of doing business" things, which does indeed pile on top of expected losses. No doubt his "I'll get you at the end" is designed to avoid the expectation of viewers that he tip large for disproportionately big wins during otherwise losing (or eventual losing) sessions.

[Dan Druff]

Even though Victor came first, he's kind of like a poor man's Vegas Matt. He should really watch Matt and learn, as Matt proved you can have a successful operation even without a pretty girl in front of the camera.

There are some similarities between the two:

- Both do casino gambling and record it
- Both are male, and didn't have any preexisting fame or notoriety
- Both will do degen-looking plays which are -EV
- Both play at casinos which seemingly give them some kind of benefit for recording there
- Both are willing to show losing sessions

The main differences are:

- Matt has an outgoing and jovial personality, even when losing. Victor seems like an introvert who gets outwardly frustrated when losing.

- Matt has a much bigger bankroll and can "wow" viewers with huge bets, whereas Victor has to scrape by with whatever he can afford to risk.

- Matt approaches the entire thing like a business, even when seemingly taking huge risks. Victor just seems like a degenerate gambler who also makes money by broadcasting his sessions on YouTube.

- Matt has his own channel which was his from the start. Victor basically replaced his girlfriend (wife?), who mainly achieved subscribers due to being a pretty female under 30 playing slots. Matt has always been Matt, whereas Victor is attempting to replace someone whose audience was there to see a pretty girl play.

[EZ Life Slot Jackpots]

I don't want to be held responsible for sharing what I have but I just saw on reddit that someone shared something so here you go. This barely scratches the surface of what I have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/YouTubersGo...casino_action/

The content I have, if shown would have had the video removed instantly. The thumbnail of my video is the most PG of the content I could show.

EZ,

It sounds like what you have is an image?


Since there may be a potential issue with You Tube, and them possibly removing the video for a Community Guildlines violation, would you be willing to post the picture here - In this thread?

[JeffDime]

Big L for Dimes here. Def appears to be her. The birthmark on her left arm/shoulder area. Looks like it’s probably Victor as her co-creator in this other venture as wel. I see no livestream tonight, but it appears they are still probably making BJ content. Looks way better than the D Lucky Experience to be fair. They may lose patreons/members from this coming out. This may be the last straw for some of the long pining simps. As for the channel, it may even get a boost. EZ with another Dubya.

My initial reaction is squaring this up from all the self righteousness, the awkward live chats she was having & the nerdy girl next door image she portrayed. I guess people can be totally different behind closed doors. Or it was just always an act. Who knows? But I am genuinely taken by surprise. My read was way off. Btw of course this stuff was going to get leaked eventually. Wonder what the response will be. I’m thinking it will be what they been doing… pretend it’s not out there.

[PositiveVariance]

Can anyone find a picture of Sarah where you can clearly see the area where the birthmarks are present?

I found a couple known bikini pics she posted last year, I can't see the birthmark, but the picture is not clear enough to say definitively that they are or are not present.

Also, remember depending what camera they are using on their phone, the birthmark could appear to be on the other side (like the blowjob picture) using the front facing camera.

If they are fake, they are very good fakes.

Until I see a known picture of her that clearly shows her bare arms, I am going to remain neutral.

[PositiveVariance]

I found a known picture of her wearing a bracelet that looks very similar to a bracelet the nudist is wearing lol






Druff, you Said that Victor tried to call you awhile back. I think it is almost guaranteed he reaches out again.

[PositiveVariance]

The last image is a video. Video looks very convincing.

To go back to my original opinion before seeing these pictures, unless her phone was hacked, they had to upload these pictures somewhere - And why would she not put them on Only Fans? These are fairly recent, it's not like these were years ago. Once that picture is shown somewhere, you may as well show it everywhere. After that first picture is out there, the value for future images plummets. She's not a celebrity, but she is known enough to have a very nice windfall.

There are unknown girls making a Million dollars per MONTH on Only Fans. If these are real and her phone wasn't hacked, she cost herself a MASSIVE payday.

Victor already fucked up their channel, he better not have blew this as well.

That link is gaining traction on Reddit.

It will be interesting to watch this unfold...

[PositiveVariance]

I have looked at many different images of her online, including several where she is doing a Livestream in a sleeveless top. I do not see any sign of the fairly large birthmark that the nudist has.



The nudist...







Sarah from her Livestream in 2021 (No birthmark)...