Youtube Slot Community and SlotLady

[JeffDime]

Actually, I think that they are loving this whole controversy. They are being cagey, because they like the drama and attention it brings. And, this thread is feeding some of it.

For sure, just like EZ said their views were down big time and she put a shit ton of ads in her first response video. I think this is them saying let’s turn this negative into a positive. The channel did need a kick in the ass. Victor’s videos were doing shitty viewership. They just recently announced they were cutting back on livestreams. I think the fact that they posted last nights de-facto second response as their featured video also further shows that.

[Dan Druff]

Another two attempts were made to call me today, by Victor and Sarah. From the same business they called from last time.

The first time, I happened to have incoming calls on (for an unrelated reason), so I answered. Victor said something like, "Looks like we got him", and then it went silent. Nothing further from them, and they apparently couldn't hear me.

Two mintues later, the phone rang again, but when I answered, they had already hung up.




Come on you two. If you want to talk to me and don't want me having your number, just get an app with a burner phone number and text me.

775-372-8355

[BaccaratDegen]

Whatever you do slot lady don’t call Dan druff he will surprise you with questions like are you two dating and I know this is a BIG secret. Plz never give up on your fans and stay cold and dead inside. We can see you have eyes of a pimped out working girl.

GA is calling your name slot lady

[ReformDorm]

Another two attempts were made to call me today, by Victor and Sarah. From the same business they called from last time.

The first time, I happened to have incoming calls on (for an unrelated reason), so I answered. Victor said something like, "Looks like we got him", and then it went silent. Nothing further from them, and they apparently couldn't hear me.

Two mintues later, the phone rang again, but when I answered, they had already hung up.




Come on you two. If you want to talk to me and don't want me having your number, just get an app with a burner phone number and text me.

775-372-8355

Wow this is crazy. Kinda feels like 1 of them wants to talk to you but the other one doesn't so they are like fighting about it while calling you lol.

Look they read this thread, every post I'm sure so hey both of you, stop with the games and call Druff.

[mickeycrimm]

This Sharon Stone scene was filmed inside The Little Hotel in the 300 block of S. Main St., downtown Las Vegas.

[mickeycrimm]

Kevmath posted this pic of Slotconomy in post #36. So what is this Slotconomy guy up to? It's looks like he is/was selling legitimate information. Without buying any of his courses I see some clues to what he is doing. His free video shows a known exploitable slot game called Icy Wilds. And he gives a little information on how to exploit it. But he's teasing it to get you to buy his courses.

Icy Wilds is a minor machine play where you get a play maybe once in a blue moon, and not worth that much money, so he's not giving up a lot by exposing it. But it's a good teaser to get you to buy his course.

His cheapest course is $30. He says something about it being about "the bubble games." That's a big clue to a slot AP too. He's talking about Ocean Magic and Ocean Magic Grand, both exploitable games.

I'm guessing his more expensive courses are probably about Aladdin's Fortune, Golden Egypt, Harley-Davidson, Progressive Free Games, Plants & Zombies, etc.

So I think he is teaching legitimate slot strategy. However, there is a problem with taking his courses at this late date. The games are at the end of their shelf life. Ploppies tire of games and quit playing them. So they get replaced with newer games. The games he is most likely selling information on have been slowly disappearing from the casinos for a couple of years.

There are hardly any Icy Wilds left. The bubble games were popular for a few years but they have been disappearing out of the casinos for a couple of years. Harley-Davidson had only about a 2 year shelf life before it disappeared entirely. The Aladdins have disappeared. Same with the other games I mentioned.

So if you buy from this guy you are most likely buying outdated information.

[Dan Druff]

Aren't they also 86ing Ocean Magic vultures in some casinos?

I also had a hard time finding Ocean Magic at any reasonable limits making it worth my time to vulture.

[mickeycrimm]

Aren't they also 86ing Ocean Magic vultures in some casinos?

I also had a hard time finding Ocean Magic at any reasonable limits making it worth my time to vulture.

Security on the MGM properties in Las Vegas cracked the whip on slot AP's after the Mandalay shooting. All in the name of looking pro active against "suspicious characters."

Ocean Magic was great when it came out. The big play was finding a bubble in the middle column. But ploppies learned the value over time and quit leaving bubbles there

[The Boz]

Aren't they also 86ing Ocean Magic vultures in some casinos?

I also had a hard time finding Ocean Magic at any reasonable limits making it worth my time to vulture.

Security on the MGM properties in Las Vegas cracked the whip on slot AP's after the Mandalay shooting. All in the name of looking pro active against "suspicious characters."

Ocean Magic was great when it came out. The big play was finding a bubble in the middle column. But ploppies learned the value over time and quit leaving bubbles there

Like Scarab, the ploppies figured it out somewhat. But they then started playing it to the 10th game, even when it didn’t make sense when few early wilds showed up.

[apwiz]

A long time ago, I remember Phil Galfond talking about his new site, Bluefire poker. He did a ton of promotion and even appeared on mainstream TV promoting his site. Everyone wanted to join Phils site and everyone did when he opened the membership doors.

But at some point things fell apart and all the sudden I learned that Bluefire poker is not his site at all. He is just the face for it.

I felt deceived but I realized that tthis is reality of business. Some people are promoters and some people are operators and owners. Usually they are different. Usually they don't go out of their way to explain to potential customers who is who and how they operate. Is a slot channel business supposed to be any different? Are we really supposed to pretend here that people don't do things on youtube for money as a business?

[JeffDime]

Usually they don't go out of their way to explain to potential customers who is who and how they operate. Is a slot channel business supposed to be any different? Are we really supposed to pretend here that people don't do things on youtube for money as a business?

1) I don’t believe the two situations are analogous.

2) They are free to do whatever they want.

3) We are free to give our opinions.

[Dan Druff]

A long time ago, I remember Phil Galfond talking about his new site, Bluefire poker. He did a ton of promotion and even appeared on mainstream TV promoting his site. Everyone wanted to join Phils site and everyone did when he opened the membership doors.

But at some point things fell apart and all the sudden I learned that Bluefire poker is not his site at all. He is just the face for it.

I felt deceived but I realized that tthis is reality of business. Some people are promoters and some people are operators and owners. Usually they are different. Usually they don't go out of their way to explain to potential customers who is who and how they operate. Is a slot channel business supposed to be any different? Are we really supposed to pretend here that people don't do things on youtube for money as a business?

There are some similarities between the two, but the main issue here is different.

SlotLady isn't a paid promoter. For example, if she was making ads claiming, "I play slots all the time at Caesars! Come down and join me!", and then it came out that she barely played there, I wouldn't feel ripped off. Why? Because a paid promoter making claims about their love of a product/service/business needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and most people learn that during childhood. Even as a kid, I figured that James Garner didn't carry around a Polaroid camera wherever he went.

However, this is a different story. The entire theme of her channel was basically "Fairly hot chick plays slots by herself". In reality, she wasn't playing by herself, and there was a lot of effort put forth for 4 years to conceal the involvement of her longtime boyfriend.

So while she really was playing the slots she showed on the channel, the entire implied premise of it being a solo venture was a lie.

As I said several times, this isn't a scam or a major scandal. Nobody got cheated, and nobody got hurt. However, it was a clear lie by omission, to the point where her boyfriend adopted a female persona in the chat room in order to hide the truth. They should just come clean, admit it, and then move forward with it as a channel featuring a slot playing couple. Anything short of that is insulting to the viewer.

[ReformDorm]

A long time ago, I remember Phil Galfond talking about his new site, Bluefire poker. He did a ton of promotion and even appeared on mainstream TV promoting his site. Everyone wanted to join Phils site and everyone did when he opened the membership doors.

But at some point things fell apart and all the sudden I learned that Bluefire poker is not his site at all. He is just the face for it.

I felt deceived but I realized that tthis is reality of business. Some people are promoters and some people are operators and owners. Usually they are different. Usually they don't go out of their way to explain to potential customers who is who and how they operate. Is a slot channel business supposed to be any different? Are we really supposed to pretend here that people don't do things on youtube for money as a business?

There are some similarities between the two, but the main issue here is different.

SlotLady isn't a paid promoter. For example, if she was making ads claiming, "I play slots all the time at Caesars! Come down and join me!", and then it came out that she barely played there, I wouldn't feel ripped off. Why? Because a paid promoter making claims about their love of a product/service/business needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and most people learn that during childhood. Even as a kid, I figured that James Garner didn't carry around a Polaroid camera wherever he went.

However, this is a different story. The entire theme of her channel was basically "Fairly hot chick plays slots by herself". In reality, she wasn't playing by herself, and there was a lot of effort put forth for 4 years to conceal the involvement of her longtime boyfriend.

So while she really was playing the slots she showed on the channel, the entire implied premise of it being a solo venture was a lie.

As I said several times, this isn't a scam or a major scandal. Nobody got cheated, and nobody got hurt. However, it was a clear lie by omission, to the point where her boyfriend adopted a female persona in the chat room in order to hide the truth. They should just come clean, admit it, and then move forward with it as a channel featuring a slot playing couple. Anything short of that is insulting to the viewer.

So All Casino Action did another livestream yesterday and it was back to how it has been for months, Victor playing and Slotlady operating the chat. I found it interesting though that Victor ended up quitting when he was only up a couple hundred. If I recall, almost all his previous livestreams had him losing the whole buyin or him winning around $1000 or more. It could be just me reading too much into it but I got the impression based on how Sarah was in the chat and Victor commenting that leaving with even $200 was huge for them. It feels like they are hurting for money now compared to how they were before. I hate using the word desperation but that's the vibe I got.

Plus they have it set up now where you have to be a subscriber to chat with them. Obv to try and eliminate lots of criticism that comes there way in the chat.

[lck2000]

I'm curious if anyone here has ever joined her paid subscription and joined her Discord group? I'm guessing not or there'd be some feedback on how it is. I am curious what it's like... I'm guessing annoying overall with everyone just praising how awesome they are much like the comments on the videos. It'd be fun to see the level of shit talking though also against the Slotlady haters. If I get bored enough one day I'll join just to see what happens.

[Dan Druff]

The whole slot YouTube thing as a business is weird to me, because it's something where you're knowingly sitting down to lose money in order to (possibly) get views.

I suppose if you're playing either way, it's fine, but as a business model it seems off. Compare this to the poker streamers, who get money from their streaming efforts, but also are playing in a game where they believe themselves to be +EV.

If your channel is big enough, I guess you can overcome that via YouTube payments, but that has to be a frustrating expense to deal with.

[y2d2]

Is that a miniature sized Head and Shoulders bottle as a card protector?

[BedWetterBettor]

The whole slot YouTube thing as a business is weird to me, because it's something where you're knowingly sitting down to lose money in order to (possibly) get views.

I suppose if you're playing either way, it's fine, but as a business model it seems off. Compare this to the poker streamers, who get money from their streaming efforts, but also are playing in a game where they believe themselves to be +EV.

If your channel is big enough, I guess you can overcome that via YouTube payments, but that has to be a frustrating expense to deal with.

It’s a case where they are already slot Degens and in order to feed their addiction they would rather make $1 from gambling and YT than $3 working a real job and possibly come out even.

Slot addicts are among the worst casino losers because the money doesn’t matter to them, it’s all about hitting the “Big One”, even if it costs them everything to do so!

[BaccaratDegen]

The whole slot YouTube thing as a business is weird to me, because it's something where you're knowingly sitting down to lose money in order to (possibly) get views.

I suppose if you're playing either way, it's fine, but as a business model it seems off. Compare this to the poker streamers, who get money from their streaming efforts, but also are playing in a game where they believe themselves to be +EV.

If your channel is big enough, I guess you can overcome that via YouTube payments, but that has to be a frustrating expense to deal with.

It’s a case where they are already slot Degens and in order to feed their addiction they would rather make $1 from gambling and YT than $3 working a real job and possibly come out even.

Slot addicts are among the worst casino losers because the money doesn’t matter to them, it’s all about hitting the “Big One”, even if it costs them everything to do so!

How it started VS How it’s going

GA very soon slot lady

[EZ Life Slot Jackpots]

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Thanks Victor! New video soon!

[PositiveVariance]

I think Victor was financing all the slot/table game play from day 1 of the channel.
As has been mentioned before Victor likely wanted to start a slot channel but knew it would be tough since he is a dude. Knowing it would likely do much better with Sarah at the helm he asked her if she would do it. Think about it, if Sarah had the funds initially to finance the slot/table game play, why would she need Victor? She would have taken his idea and ran with it. She needed him because he likely financed the operation. She could have found any simp to record her live-streams, edit her videos, and assume the username “Jenny” in the chats. She probably could have found an “intern” simp to do it for free. No other reason Victor is needed (sorry Victor, I’m sure your a good dude outside of the deception on the channel.) victor was needed for one reason, and that is money.

Risk-wise, I must give it to Victor, he took a chance that paid off.