*** OFFICIAL *** Cancel Culture and Corporate Wokeness Thread

[gimmick]

Nobody said they CAN'T do it.

The question is WHY they did it. It's not a coincidence that this happened in early 2021, at the all-time peak of cancel culture. This is being done to appease the woke mob, because they see the storm brewing of SJWs about to cancel them. They think that if they bow to the woke gods, and give a book sacrifice, they will be spared.

They actually might be right.

What youre describing (complaining about) is capitalism.

Yea that seems to be a running theme with half these cancel whatever hot takes that keep popping up. Go figure corporations do corporate shit. Random facelift for corporation X doing elaborate handwaving with no real commitment to anything and right wing info bubble of entitled faggots have all the opinions. If you bother running any of their complaints to logical conclusions, they seem to be very willing to demolish capitalism. This isn't even any antitrust shit, it's basic tenets of functioning capitalism.

You can talk all you want about what rights corporations should have, but none of this works if were asking corporations to go against the market and their shareholders, because dipshits with no skin in the game are offended by their actions. Actions that break no law. Very often quite the opposite especially with publicly traded corporations. Boards can't put ideology over money without the will of their shareholders.

[Dan Druff]

What youre describing (complaining about) is capitalism.

Yea that seems to be a running theme with half these cancel whatever hot takes that keep popping up. Go figure corporations do corporate shit. Random facelift for corporation X doing elaborate handwaving with no real commitment to anything and right wing info bubble of entitled idiotics have all the opinions. If you bother running any of their complaints to logical conclusions, they seem to be very willing to demolish capitalism. This isn't even any antitrust shit, it's basic tenets of functioning capitalism.

You can talk all you want about what rights corporations should have, but none of this works if were asking corporations to go against the market and their shareholders, because dipshits with no skin in the game are offended by their actions. Actions that break no law. Very often quite the opposite especially with publicly traded corporations. Boards can't put ideology over money without the will of their shareholders.

Again, the complaint is about cancel culture itself, and not so much the corporate response to the cancel mob.

Now, it would be better if these corporations weren't so spineless, and actually stood up to the woke mob, but many of them wrongly perceive that the path of least resistance is to cave. Look at how well Goya and Chik-Fil-A both did when they refused to back down. There's something to be said for being the counter-counterculture.

In any case, once again, we aren't discussing the legal rights for these corporations to act in this way, nor are we discussing the brand-protection strategies being undertaken in order to avoid cancellation. That's a different discussion for a different time.

This thread is about cancel culture, and the woke mobs which end up forcing these moves to occur in the first place. The owners of the Dr. Seuss books didn't just wake up one day and decide six of their books were racist. They started receiving complaints from the SJW crew, and preemptively struck by removing six books, hoping their sacrifice would please the woke gods, and thus allow them to live.

The intelligent, thoughtful observer would say, "Wow, this is a pretty bad reflection upon our culture that Dr. Seuss felt it had to ban six of its own books in order to avoid a vicious woke cancel mob attack."

gimmick and duped say, "Capitalism, bro! Just capitalism at work!"

Sad!

[gimmick]

Yea that seems to be a running theme with half these cancel whatever hot takes that keep popping up. Go figure corporations do corporate shit. Random facelift for corporation X doing elaborate handwaving with no real commitment to anything and right wing info bubble of entitled faggots have all the opinions. If you bother running any of their complaints to logical conclusions, they seem to be very willing to demolish capitalism. This isn't even any antitrust shit, it's basic tenets of functioning capitalism.

You can talk all you want about what rights corporations should have, but none of this works if were asking corporations to go against the market and their shareholders, because dipshits with no skin in the game are offended by their actions. Actions that break no law. Very often quite the opposite especially with publicly traded corporations. Boards can't put ideology over money without the will of their shareholders.

Again, the complaint is about cancel culture itself, and not so much the corporate response to the cancel mob.

Now, it would be better if these corporations weren't so spineless, and actually stood up to the woke mob, but many of them wrongly perceive that the path of least resistance is to cave. Look at how well Goya and Chik-Fil-A both did when they refused to back down. There's something to be said for being the counter-counterculture.

Sad!

Here we are with the entitlement. When a corporation does something you disagree with they're spineless. Where do you get the idea that they should stand up to your beliefs?

There has been a corporate response since marketing/PR. This isn't a new development that deservers everyone's immediate attention.

Pretty weird stance from someone that has haunted hundreds of customer reps with random bs grievances for decades that corporations are spineless for listening their customers.

Here's a fun revelation for you, cancel culture is a part of how the market works. God forbid customers do something as crazy as vote with their wallet. That's just been going on since the beginning of human history.

[gimmick]

While we're at i'm not too fond of Team Retards habit of renaming thousands of year old practices so that they only apply to the left. It's transparent weak sauce faggotry.

Ostracizing is a perfectly fine word that has no partisan connotation. It's neither good or bad by itself. It can target individuals, corporations, countries etc.

Are we suddenly crying because Iran gets sanctioned? No. The playground variant is that if you're cunt, then we wont play with you. Oh the humanity.

[gimmick]

While we're at it, where are we with every politician Trump canceled not that many days ago. There must have been a huge thread about it.

Influencer with millions of cultists directing his wrath to people that followed the law and at least tried to keep up the appearance of democracy. Will of the people and all that jazz.

I'm sure that thread is here somewhere.

[limitles]

Yea that seems to be a running theme with half these cancel whatever hot takes that keep popping up. Go figure corporations do corporate shit. Random facelift for corporation X doing elaborate handwaving with no real commitment to anything and right wing info bubble of entitled faggots have all the opinions. If you bother running any of their complaints to logical conclusions, they seem to be very willing to demolish capitalism. This isn't even any antitrust shit, it's basic tenets of functioning capitalism.

You can talk all you want about what rights corporations should have, but none of this works if were asking corporations to go against the market and their shareholders, because dipshits with no skin in the game are offended by their actions. Actions that break no law. Very often quite the opposite especially with publicly traded corporations. Boards can't put ideology over money without the will of their shareholders.

Again, the complaint is about cancel culture itself, and not so much the corporate response to the cancel mob.

Now, it would be better if these corporations weren't so spineless, and actually stood up to the woke mob, but many of them wrongly perceive that the path of least resistance is to cave. Look at how well Goya and Chik-Fil-A both did when they refused to back down. There's something to be said for being the counter-counterculture.

In any case, once again, we aren't discussing the legal rights for these corporations to act in this way, nor are we discussing the brand-protection strategies being undertaken in order to avoid cancellation. That's a different discussion for a different time.

This thread is about cancel culture, and the woke mobs which end up forcing these moves to occur in the first place. The owners of the Dr. Seuss books didn't just wake up one day and decide six of their books were racist. They started receiving complaints from the SJW crew, and preemptively struck by removing six books, hoping their sacrifice would please the woke gods, and thus allow them to live.

The intelligent, thoughtful observer would say, "Wow, this is a pretty bad reflection upon our culture that Dr. Seuss felt it had to ban six of its own books in order to avoid a vicious woke cancel mob attack."

gimmick and duped say, "Capitalism, bro! Just capitalism at work!"

Sad!

[BCR]

While we're at it, where are we with every politician Trump canceled not that many days ago. There must have been a huge thread about it.

Influencer with millions of cultists directing his wrath to people that followed the law and at least tried to keep up the appearance of democracy. Will of the people and all that jazz.

I'm sure that thread is here somewhere.

Yeah there was no thread when Adam Kinzinger’s family had 11 family members write a letter calling him the devil and sent out to various media outlets where they stated they wanted him “shunned.” Literally the definition of ostracism. His family was so nuts they wanted their own family member publicly shunned.

Almost every person who voted against Trump was censured by state republican parties.

But Aunt Jemima and Dr Seuss are important, yet actual lawmakers censuring anyone who isn’t in lockstep with a cult gets censured. We are supposed to get up in arms about companies making bottom line decisions when they ignore their party going fully insane.

American Conservative values. Great family values for the Kinzingers, but not shocking, as it’s emblematic of current American Conservatism post-Trump.

You’re with him or get shunned. That family was born 400 years too late. Would have been fantastic during witch trials.

[Sloppy Joe]

While we're at it, where are we with every politician Trump canceled not that many days ago. There must have been a huge thread about it.

Influencer with millions of cultists directing his wrath to people that followed the law and at least tried to keep up the appearance of democracy. Will of the people and all that jazz.

I'm sure that thread is here somewhere.

Yeah there was no thread when Adam Kinzinger’s family had 11 family members write a letter calling him the devil and sent out to various media outlets where they stated they wanted him “shunned.” Literally the definition of ostracism. His family was so nuts they wanted their own family member publicly shunned.

Almost every person who voted against Trump was censured by state republican parties.

But Aunt Jemima and Dr Seuss are important, yet actual lawmakers censuring anyone who isn’t in lockstep with a cult gets censured. We are supposed to get up in arms about companies making bottom line decisions when they ignore their party going fully insane.

American Conservative values. Great family values for the Kinzingers, but not shocking, as it’s emblematic of current American Conservatism post-Trump.

You’re with him or get shunned. That family was born 400 years too late. Would have been fantastic during witch trials.

Team Retard gives no fucks about canceling actual humans that seek to disrupt the narrative, guys.

That's not part of the problem at all.



This matters a lot though.

[nightmarefish]

While we're at it, where are we with every politician Trump canceled not that many days ago. There must have been a huge thread about it.

Influencer with millions of cultists directing his wrath to people that followed the law and at least tried to keep up the appearance of democracy. Will of the people and all that jazz.

I'm sure that thread is here somewhere.

Yeah there was no thread when Adam Kinzinger’s family had 11 family members write a letter calling him the devil and sent out to various media outlets where they stated they wanted him “shunned.” Literally the definition of ostracism. His family was so nuts they wanted their own family member publicly shunned.

Almost every person who voted against Trump was censured by state republican parties.

But Aunt Jemima and Dr Seuss are important, yet actual lawmakers censuring anyone who isn’t in lockstep with a cult gets censured. We are supposed to get up in arms about companies making bottom line decisions when they ignore their party going fully insane.

American Conservative values. Great family values for the Kinzingers, but not shocking, as it’s emblematic of current American Conservatism post-Trump.

You’re with him or get shunned. That family was born 400 years too late. Would have been fantastic during witch trials.

You should have posted it here. This is the "Cancel Culture" Thread, both sides are guilty. Also Liz Cheney is now somehow a RINO.

Shit needs to stop don't you think?

Ridiculous shit coming from both sides of the aisle. If you only think the dumb shit is coming from the "other side" then you're a significant part of the problem.

My question is, when does it end? We're getting pretty close to zero IRL conversations because everyone is afraid to express their honest POV, that's a dangerous road.

[Dan Druff]

Again, the complaint is about cancel culture itself, and not so much the corporate response to the cancel mob.

Now, it would be better if these corporations weren't so spineless, and actually stood up to the woke mob, but many of them wrongly perceive that the path of least resistance is to cave. Look at how well Goya and Chik-Fil-A both did when they refused to back down. There's something to be said for being the counter-counterculture.

Sad!

Here we are with the entitlement. When a corporation does something you disagree with they're spineless. Where do you get the idea that they should stand up to your beliefs?

There has been a corporate response since marketing/PR. This isn't a new development that deservers everyone's immediate attention.

Pretty weird stance from someone that has haunted hundreds of customer reps with random bs grievances for decades that corporations are spineless for listening their customers.

Here's a fun revelation for you, cancel culture is a part of how the market works. God forbid customers do something as crazy as vote with their wallet. That's just been going on since the beginning of human history.

It's not entitlement. I'm entitled to nothing regarding corporations I don't have dealings with.

"Spineless" is exactly what the word means. It means a fear of standing up for any principles, and always taking the perceived path of least resistance. Being spineless doesn't necessarily mean being more profitable. As I said, Chik-Fil-A and Goya are examples of corporations which stood for their principles, and gained more right wing business than they lost left wing business, thus a net positive. So it was win-win. It was a risk, but it was win-win.

But again, you can keep moving the goalposts and redefining what I mean by "cancel culture", but that doesn't change the clear and obvious point I'm making.

This is not about the corporate response to cancel culture. It's about cancel culture itself which is now causing corporations to react this way.

Read that 10 times until you understand it.

[gimmick]

Yeah there was no thread when Adam Kinzinger’s family had 11 family members write a letter calling him the devil and sent out to various media outlets where they stated they wanted him “shunned.” Literally the definition of ostracism. His family was so nuts they wanted their own family member publicly shunned.

Almost every person who voted against Trump was censured by state republican parties.

But Aunt Jemima and Dr Seuss are important, yet actual lawmakers censuring anyone who isn’t in lockstep with a cult gets censured. We are supposed to get up in arms about companies making bottom line decisions when they ignore their party going fully insane.

American Conservative values. Great family values for the Kinzingers, but not shocking, as it’s emblematic of current American Conservatism post-Trump.

You’re with him or get shunned. That family was born 400 years too late. Would have been fantastic during witch trials.

You should have posted it here. This is the "Cancel Culture" Thread, both sides are guilty. Also Liz Cheney is now somehow a RINO.

Shit needs to stop don't you think?

Ridiculous shit coming from both sides of the aisle. If you only think the dumb shit is coming from the "other side" then you're a significant part of the problem.

My question is, when does it end? We're getting pretty close to zero IRL conversations because everyone is afraid to express their honest POV, that's a dangerous road.

It's not really a new thing to avoid talking politics or religion in polite company. For unknown reasons in the last 10 years that phrase was forgotten. It's not about never talking about "important" things, more about time and place for everything.

I kinda get along with almost everyone in real life. It's my bad for being too confrontational online. My excuse is that NWP way of behaving is pretty close to prison etiquette. Something BCR wrote about some time ago, you could always talk about sports or whatever to strike a conversation. People kept their batshitcrazy conspiracy stuff to themselves and they didn't fish for tribal dog whistles.

I don't really care to much about whole cancel culture angle. I dislike hypocrisy and basic fallacies. Like on the other side of the scale we have the most influential figure of The Right going after elected officials for voting and on the other side we have a private company deciding to stop printing picture books with funny images of gooks. One of these things holds a metric fucktonne more weight. And still i don't care enough to make a post asking anyone on the right to defend it.

[gimmick]

Here we are with the entitlement. When a corporation does something you disagree with they're spineless. Where do you get the idea that they should stand up to your beliefs?

There has been a corporate response since marketing/PR. This isn't a new development that deservers everyone's immediate attention.

Pretty weird stance from someone that has haunted hundreds of customer reps with random bs grievances for decades that corporations are spineless for listening their customers.

Here's a fun revelation for you, cancel culture is a part of how the market works. God forbid customers do something as crazy as vote with their wallet. That's just been going on since the beginning of human history.

It's not entitlement. I'm entitled to nothing regarding corporations I don't have dealings with.

"Spineless" is exactly what the word means. It means a fear of standing up for any principles, and always taking the perceived path of least resistance. Being spineless doesn't necessarily mean being more profitable. As I said, Chik-Fil-A and Goya are examples of corporations which stood for their principles, and gained more right wing business than they lost left wing business, thus a net positive. So it was win-win. It was a risk, but it was win-win.

But again, you can keep moving the goalposts and redefining what I mean by "cancel culture", but that doesn't change the clear and obvious point I'm making.

This is not about the corporate response to cancel culture. It's about cancel culture itself which is now causing corporations to react this way.

Read that 10 times until you understand it.

So standing up to reprint picture books of funny looking gooks is a principle now? Ok. Clear and obvious.

[gimmick]

From the woke times of 1985. This is totally new and pressing information. Newer seen this shit from corporations.

[Dan Druff]

It's not entitlement. I'm entitled to nothing regarding corporations I don't have dealings with.

"Spineless" is exactly what the word means. It means a fear of standing up for any principles, and always taking the perceived path of least resistance. Being spineless doesn't necessarily mean being more profitable. As I said, Chik-Fil-A and Goya are examples of corporations which stood for their principles, and gained more right wing business than they lost left wing business, thus a net positive. So it was win-win. It was a risk, but it was win-win.

But again, you can keep moving the goalposts and redefining what I mean by "cancel culture", but that doesn't change the clear and obvious point I'm making.

This is not about the corporate response to cancel culture. It's about cancel culture itself which is now causing corporations to react this way.

Read that 10 times until you understand it.

So standing up to reprint picture books of funny looking gooks is a principle now? Ok. Clear and obvious.

Standing up against the woke mob and not feeling pressured to ban your own beloved classic children's books is important, yes.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you.

[gimmick]

So standing up to reprint picture books of funny looking gooks is a principle now? Ok. Clear and obvious.

Standing up against the woke mob and not feeling pressured to ban your own beloved classic children's books is important, yes.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you.

Are they banned? Can you understand that? Because that's what you initially asked someone to defend. Just answer that first question and we're done here.

[Dan Druff]

Standing up against the woke mob and not feeling pressured to ban your own beloved classic children's books is important, yes.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you.

Are they banned? Can you understand that? Because that's what you initially asked someone to defend. Just answer that first question and we're done here.

So now we're splitting hairs over the definition of "banned" now? You're really reaching.

It's very simple.

1) Woke mob, which gets offended and cries about everything, was pressuring the owners of Dr. Seuss about hypersensitively perceived "racism" in their books.

2) Dr. Seuss owners panic because they fear the cancel mob, and after some thought, decide to pre-emptively ban six of their own books, in order to buy sensitivity points from the woke mob.

3) gimmick comes on PFA and says, "Nothing was cancelled. It's capitalism."


Sounds like cancel culture to me.

[gimmick]

Are they banned? Can you understand that? Because that's what you initially asked someone to defend. Just answer that first question and we're done here.

So now we're splitting hairs over the definition of "banned" now? You're really reaching.

It's very simple.

1) Woke mob, which gets offended and cries about everything, was pressuring the owners of Dr. Seuss about hypersensitively perceived "racism" in their books.

2) Dr. Seuss owners panic because they fear the cancel mob, and after some thought, decide to pre-emptively ban six of their own books, in order to buy sensitivity points from the woke mob.

3) gimmick comes on PFA and says, "Nothing was cancelled. It's capitalism."


Sounds like cancel culture to me.

Must have been too many lines of text. My apologies.

Are they banned?

[gimmick]

You can try bullshitting more about moving the goalpost considering you started that from your first reply.

1. This isn't about books being banned or censorship.

2. This isn't about companies doing sound business decisions.

3. This isn't about consumers having any say in corporate decisions.

4. This isn't about cancel culture in general.

5. This certainly isn't about former US president silencing members of his own party.

6. This is all about picture books.

7. This is about banned meaning just as much as when Bottomset decides he doesn't want to post for a few days.

[NickyPipes]

Wow Gimmick is such an insufferable dweeb. Difficult to imagine the mindset of a “man” with these type of opinion and this bizarre style of arguing. Gimmick I really suggest you get on a diet, I can tell you are a fat lard just by what you post.

[mickeycrimm]

So standing up to reprint picture books of funny looking gooks is a principle now? Ok. Clear and obvious.

But reprint all the pictures you want of goofy looking white people....right?