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    The constant interrupting not only made him look childish but also didn't give Biden a chance to hang himself which almost surely he eventually would have. Best thing that could have happen to Trump last night was for Biden to step on his own dick but Trump wouldn't give him the opportunity.
    Trump had to interrupt Biden repeatedly because Wallace didn’t do his job and take him to task on where he stood on the issues.
    On each topic they both were supposed to have 2 minutes uninterrupted to talk. Then open discuss for 11 minutes. Trump didn't give Biden his time and it's a huge mistake because he would have eventually fucked up. Even Obama says this about Joe. Sometimes less is more, a lesson Trump surely hasn't learned.

    Also, Trump started the debate talking about Hillary then went to Hunter, this shit plays well with his base at rallies but is completely irrelevant at a presidential debate. Just makes him look like he's avoiding talking about actual issues the average citizen cares about. I think the Hunter shit backfired because Biden talked passionately about Hunter struggling with addiction and said how proud he was of him to overcome it, probably Biden's best moment of the night. Guaranteed this hit home with many people in the middle.

     
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    There are some good posters who worship this peado’s posts.

    At best he searches out Kiddie porn stories to post on here.

    At worst he’s a lot more evil than that .

    But free speech hey Druff ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
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    Trump had to interrupt Biden repeatedly because Wallace didn’t do his job and take him to task on where he stood on the issues.
    On each topic they both were supposed to have 2 minutes uninterrupted to talk. Then open discuss for 11 minutes. Trump didn't give Biden his time and it's a huge mistake because he would have eventually fucked up. Even Obama says this about Joe. Sometimes less is more, a lesson Trump surely hasn't learned.

    Also, Trump started the debate talking about Hillary then went to Hunter, this shit plays well with his base at rallies but is completely irrelevant at a presidential debate. Just makes him look like he's avoiding talking about actual issues the average citizen cares about. I think the Hunter shit backfired because Biden talked passionately about Hunter struggling with addiction and said how proud he was of him to overcome it, probably Biden's best moment of the night. Guaranteed this hit home with many people in the middle.
    this is an extremely insightful point ^

    if trump had allowed peoples undivided attention to be on biden, they would have had an opportunity to focus on the numerous issues/flaws/faults on display.

    by constantly doing his enfante terrible act, people are struck by what a complete crackhead trump is instead of how biden is literally ancient and frail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    Trump had to interrupt Biden repeatedly because Wallace didn’t do his job and take him to task on where he stood on the issues.
    On each topic they both were supposed to have 2 minutes uninterrupted to talk. Then open discuss for 11 minutes. Trump didn't give Biden his time and it's a huge mistake because he would have eventually fucked up. Even Obama says this about Joe. Sometimes less is more, a lesson Trump surely hasn't learned.

    Also, Trump started the debate talking about Hillary then went to Hunter, this shit plays well with his base at rallies but is completely irrelevant at a presidential debate. Just makes him look like he's avoiding talking about actual issues the average citizen cares about. I think the Hunter shit backfired because Biden talked passionately about Hunter struggling with addiction and said how proud he was of him to overcome it, probably Biden's best moment of the night. Guaranteed this hit home with many people in the middle.
    Yeah he obviously came out with the plan to get Joe all rattled, and it worked for about 15 minutes, but he couldn’t shut it down, and in the end he ended up looking unhinged and wouldn’t shut up. He legit bailed Joe out of two or three bad spots where it wasn’t a great question for Joe, but he diverted attention away from Joe by interrupting and inadvertently shifted the focus back on himself when Joe was having a bad moment.

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    except for the interruptions, Trump did well---imo his answers were direct to the questions asked: no political happy speak side-stepping, and his arguments fit together, while Biden's were disjointed at times

    so why did Trump keep interrupting? -- because he had though ahead to everything Biden was going to say & Trump couldn't could resist/restrain; Trump is sharp but his intelligence proved to be a drawback here

    i'm not happy with either so i think i have to pick between the lesser of two bads
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    Trump had to interrupt Biden repeatedly because Wallace didn’t do his job and take him to task on where he stood on the issues.
    On each topic they both were supposed to have 2 minutes uninterrupted to talk. Then open discuss for 11 minutes. Trump didn't give Biden his time and it's a huge mistake because he would have eventually fucked up. Even Obama says this about Joe. Sometimes less is more, a lesson Trump surely hasn't learned.

    Also, Trump started the debate talking about Hillary then went to Hunter, this shit plays well with his base at rallies but is completely irrelevant at a presidential debate. Just makes him look like he's avoiding talking about actual issues the average citizen cares about. I think the Hunter shit backfired because Biden talked passionately about Hunter struggling with addiction and said how proud he was of him to overcome it, probably Biden's best moment of the night. Guaranteed this hit home with many people in the middle.
    Couldn’t disagree more. Trump won the debate because he didn’t allow Biden to get off any sound bites and read from his script. There were several times Trump had him on the ropes and Wallace bailed him out, for instance on the packing the court question. Wallace literally saved old Joe.

    I know you’re a NeverTrumper so you’ve just never gotten his appeal but playing to his base is exactly what he needs to do. Bottom line, Trump looked strong, Biden looked weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUUP View Post
    There are some good posters who worship this peado’s posts.

    At best he searches out Kiddie porn stories to post on here.

    At worst he’s a lot more evil than that .

    But free speech hey Druff ....

    no libtard on the site is actually worth a shit at politics, they are fringe facebook decent at best. they don't know any better and just like atine cuz hes a good writer

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Trump really cooked his goose giving them the "stand down and stand by" order, probably the single worst thing he could have said right there.

    Making this about the Proud Boys is a great way to avoid talking about Antifa, which doesn't actually exist, according to Biden.

    He must have done zero prep for the debate.

    As a nationalist who happens to be white, I get it, and it won't change my vote, but man, what an idiot.

    you guys are assuming that being linked to the proud boys hurts his electoral chance, and that trump made a mistake

    it really might be the opposite on both counts
    Maybe just maybe Trump supporters are fed up with our corrupt political class and an always lying media establishment. Or maybe you’re just happier believing all Trump supporters are racist. It definitely allows you to do a lot less thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post


    you guys are assuming that being linked to the proud boys hurts his electoral chance, and that trump made a mistake

    it really might be the opposite on both counts
    Maybe just maybe Trump supporters are fed up with our corrupt political class and an always lying media establishment. Or maybe you’re just happier believing all Trump supporters are racist. It definitely allows you to do a lot less thinking.
    did not address my post. why is this directed at me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Maybe just maybe Trump supporters are fed up with our corrupt political class and an always lying media establishment. Or maybe you’re just happier believing all Trump supporters are racist. It definitely allows you to do a lot less thinking.
    did not address my post. why is this directed at me?
    OK, maybe I didn’t infer your meaning correctly. Please clarify. Why do you think being linked to the Proud Boys would help his electoral chances and why was it “not a mistake”?

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    honestly what stable genius hasnt given a paramilitary organization a 'stand down, stand by' order during a presidential debate only to realize the next day he had no idea what the organization was or what it stood for.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post



    honestly what stable genius hasnt given a paramilitary organization a 'stand down, stand by' order during a presidential debate only to realize the next day he had no idea what the organization was or what it stood for.
    Look at how obsessed these former high school dweebs are with a fake media “gotcha” question and an irrelevant fringe group that Joe Biden brought up.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1311375763673931778

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    One more from Michael Tracey that sums it up perfectly.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1311323806942756864

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    I have no idea who Proud Boys are. This has no traction, despite what CNN is obsessing about. The election is going to come down to who votes. Remember, mid October 2016 Trump was 88-12 behind. Proud Boys, whatever that is will be forgotten by the weekend, nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
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    did not address my post. why is this directed at me?
    OK, maybe I didn’t infer your meaning correctly. Please clarify. Why do you think being linked to the Proud Boys would help his electoral chances and why was it “not a mistake”?
    i believe that trump's base thinks that ordinary white people are being scapegoated and mistreated in modern day america. his base most likely thinks that minorities even get preferential treatment over white people.

    giving a hat tip to groups fighting against this may not be bad electoral strategy (as it could drive the white turnout he needs) and the public's constant assumption (on the left and the right) that trump screwed up or was speaking without thinking may not be correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    OK, maybe I didn’t infer your meaning correctly. Please clarify. Why do you think being linked to the Proud Boys would help his electoral chances and why was it “not a mistake”?
    i believe that trump's base thinks that ordinary white people are being scapegoated and mistreated in modern day america. his base most likely thinks that minorities even get preferential treatment over white people.

    giving a hat tip to groups fighting against this may not be bad electoral strategy (as it could drive the white turnout he needs) and the public's constant assumption (on the left and the right) that trump screwed up or was speaking without thinking may not be correct.
    That is fair analysis, although it’s a subject that Trump wouldn’t have even touched had Wallace not thrown that ridiculous question out there. And Biden brought up the Proud Boys, a group 99% of voters had never even heard of, not Trump.

    The question was a rhetorical trap and there is no way Trump could have answered it that would have satisfied the left. To ask Trump to disavow a right wing group and militias after four months of left wing rioting and leave Biden completely off the hook on Antifa and BLM was utterly ludicrous.

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    Listen up Portland and MINNY, there were only 4 arrests and no other incidents related to the debate.

    Polls don’t mean shit, polls think I am voting for Biden, y’all gonna be surprised it really is no surprise.
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