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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    if dwai gets banned this place is finished
    WTF is so wrong with being banned?

    Don't want to blow my own horn, no homo, but I am the Hall of Fame ban-nee

    and look at me now.

    I'm better, stronger, better and that's about it.

    What's with you pusses who are afraid of being banned or post restricted and

    what is wrong with the ban hammer man? Serve it up dude.

     
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    Lol remember the time druff shitcanned dwai from a thread because he was ruining druff's ability to enjoy a thread where he actually gave a shit about having a coherent conversation?

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    oh i see how it is, only sonatine is allowed to ruin others threads by posting long gay copy pastas, when anyone does it to him it's deleted

    tight site
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Don't spam the thread, please. I just had to remove like 6 messages here.

    While Bolton is a Republican and has a good reputation, you do have to take some of this stuff with a grain of salt. Notice he's releasing the book in June, not December. He's pissed at Trump and wants him to lose -- even at the expense of the Republican Party itself (which will indeed lose other races if Trump does worse than expected.)

    Whenever someone releases a bitter tell-all timed to harm the person they're telling about, you have to wonder how much is true and how much is embellished.

    Think of it like when an ex-girlfriend talks shit about you after a breakup. Part of it will be the unflattering truth, part will be half true but embellished, and part will be complete BS.

    I imagine the same is going on here.
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    why are you deleting my posts but you let sonatine do it?

    tight site
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    why are you deleting my posts but you let sonatine do it?

    tight site
    Because I already asked for you to stop trolling this thread.

    I let one TDS GIF post stand, deleted the other 6 posts of that, and deleted the gay porn story. I have deleted sonatine's at times in the past, too, when I felt they were interrupting a thread where there was going to be discussion.

    In general, I don't want to see spamming in any thread where people are going to seriously discuss something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I had to remove dwai from this thread.

    Whether you agree or disagree with my forum moderation decisions, it's not your place to decide to overrule what I do. If I delete something and ask you not to post it again, don't post it again.

    This is the second time in this thread when you've continued to spam when I deleted your previous spam and asked you to stop.

    Clearly I'm not doing it for any kind of political bias reason, because I'm usually on your side and almost always disagree with the political stuff sonatine posts.
    Lol this is literally the only unforgivable sin you can commit on PFA

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You have to understand what you’re dealing with when you talk with this kid and why everyone serious simply ignores him. I read him for a month and he was an open book of self-loathing and insecurity. Very basic as he’s of quite low intellect. Nothing deeper there.

    He is a kid, who in his own words, was rejected and forced to dine with the minorities at lunch because it was the only place he fit in. He says he still faces constant and continual harassment by law enforcement based simply upon his appearance.

    He simply hates his life and desperately wants acceptance from the very people who told him to take a seat with the browns.

    Some people are social outcasts like dwai is, but they are intelligent and interesting and it’s a loss for the people who reject them. Not him though. Whatever “it” is in life that makes people charismatic or interesting, he completely lacks.

    He lost the genetic lottery in every way imaginable and ended up very angry and chases around people seeking attention through insults because it’s all he has. See BCB and Crowe’s posts earlier. Two adults just making coherent posts and look at his reaction. He hates anyone that is interesting and that people like. His mention of Crowe being angry at not being the sites favorite poster is a window into his petty little insecure brain. Crowe posts about movies, music,food and drink, things that interest him and is always polite and informative. Always has been. He never cared about popularity. He’s just a cool dude. For someone like dwai who no one has ever found interesting, he remembers and is still jealous of something Crowe long forgot about.

    Most ignore him despite him being the last post in every thread lately because he’s just a pathetic kid that most pity. I mean, how do you insult someone who has such a shitty existence already? And why would you bother? What can you do to someone like him that Mother Nature didn’t already?

    The next interesting post he makes will be the first. He has never added a single thing to any conversation. I actually think he’s trying to destroy the site and I have no idea why druff allows him to take his site down to the lowest common denominator in every thread. It’s possible he feels sorry for dwai and sees how insecure he is and gives him this safe space, but it’s really hurt the site significantly.

    There were a lot of people who had free time during the lockdown and probably looked at the site for the first time in years and the first thing they see in every thread was an angry little insecure boy lashing out for attention and insulting people in every thread. But he votes republican, so Druff will take exception with krypt not being as interesting, in his opinion, as he once was, and ignore the loser chasing people thread to thread with no content, just insults. That’s become the norm here lately.

    full disclosure ive had dwai on ignore for months, but one thing that deserves mention is that dwai's tone normalizes that sort of behavior for other lowest common denominator anti-social behavior disorder types.

    id say 5-10% of nwp's content was basically anti-social/toxic. im clocking this site at a comfortable 40% and its only getting worse.

    like somehow, having a thread about an erupting pandemic weeks before it took its first lives here has galvanized maybe 30% of this sites core posters against basic hygiene and other prophylactic measures designed to save innocent lives. 169,000 confirmed deaths and right now, those same users are cracking their knuckles to 'own the libs' by saying that at least a handful of those deaths had nothing to do with covid.

    this place is quite literally a cult and the god at their alter is mean spirited stupidity, because its the only thing they're good at.
    Do you realize you just posted about YOURSELF! A smug introvert who hasn’t been out of his house in months all the while trying to undermine this sites owner with a competitive site under the guise of a stock site. Fucking hilarious!
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    I don’t know how many times Druff can get fucked by his so called friends before he wakes the fuck up.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    I don’t know how many times Druff can get fucked by his so called friends before he wakes the fuck up.
    It's nothing a 3 hour zoom call couldn't smooth over

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    Fuck those assholes throwing shade when you are at WSOP, like poker players are anyone’s moral compass. You only see them fuckers once a year and you are going to let them tell you what to do? Fuck that, quit being so soft, it will end this site and you know it.

    It is exactly what lolassholements wants you to do.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    full disclosure ive had dwai on ignore for months, but one thing that deserves mention is that dwai's tone normalizes that sort of behavior for other lowest common denominator anti-social behavior disorder types.

    id say 5-10% of nwp's content was basically anti-social/toxic. im clocking this site at a comfortable 40% and its only getting worse.

    like somehow, having a thread about an erupting pandemic weeks before it took its first lives here has galvanized maybe 30% of this sites core posters against basic hygiene and other prophylactic measures designed to save innocent lives. 169,000 confirmed deaths and right now, those same users are cracking their knuckles to 'own the libs' by saying that at least a handful of those deaths had nothing to do with covid.

    this place is quite literally a cult and the god at their alter is mean spirited stupidity, because its the only thing they're good at.
    Do you realize you just posted about YOURSELF! A smug introvert who hasn’t been out of his house in months all the while trying to undermine this sites owner with a competitive site under the guise of a stock site. Fucking hilarious!

    simmer down princess post-menopause.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Last fuckily, all of this heightened bullshit is a cocktail of election year, corona bullshit, and racial bullshit that will simmer down considerably once Trump wins re-election.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post

    Do you realize you just posted about YOURSELF! A smug introvert who hasn’t been out of his house in months all the while trying to undermine this sites owner with a competitive site under the guise of a stock site. Fucking hilarious!

    simmer down princess post-menopause.
    You could bathe in the hormonal night sweats

     
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    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    I like site as is

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    What a surprise, another PFA thread turned into a leftist loonybin liberal echo chamber with everyone jerking everyone else off with green reps.

    and fagatine says this is a alt right echo chamber



    edit: should've went with fatatine, live and learn

     
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    I understand why the non-anonymous posters want to distance themselves from this website. They can always just fuck off to Facebook. As for Druff, he should just play the Jew card if anybody calls him a bigot. As for professional poker players that are scared to post here... well, i hate to break it to Druff but nobody comes to PFA to talk about poker, we come here to be racist because Yahoo disabled comments

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    I understand why the non-anonymous posters want to distance themselves from this website. They can always just fuck off to Facebook. As for Druff, he should just play the Jew card if anybody calls him a bigot. As for professional poker players that are scared to post here... well, i hate to break it to Druff but nobody comes to PFA to talk about poker, we come here to be racist because Yahoo disabled comments

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Druff if you said I want to censor this fucking hole because Benjamin is getting older and your parenting style does not want it, I would respect, there is no other reason.

    Funny, liberals are the conservatives here, and vice versa.

    Totally fucked up.

    Do it for the Benjamin only.
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    Racism brings the hits

    Only in America

    Supersize that? Yes please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    allow hate speech against rural white people and christians though
    fuck them


    esp tellafag

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    You have to understand what you’re dealing with when you talk with this kid and why everyone serious simply ignores him. I read him for a month and he was an open book of self-loathing and insecurity. Very basic as he’s of quite low intellect. Nothing deeper there.

    He is a kid, who in his own words, was rejected and forced to dine with the minorities at lunch because it was the only place he fit in. He says he still faces constant and continual harassment by law enforcement based simply upon his appearance.

    He simply hates his life and desperately wants acceptance from the very people who told him to take a seat with the browns.

    Some people are social outcasts like dwai is, but they are intelligent and interesting and it’s a loss for the people who reject them. Not him though. Whatever “it” is in life that makes people charismatic or interesting, he completely lacks.

    He lost the genetic lottery in every way imaginable and ended up very angry and chases around people seeking attention through insults because it’s all he has. See BCB and Crowe’s posts earlier. Two adults just making coherent posts and look at his reaction. He hates anyone that is interesting and that people like. His mention of Crowe being angry at not being the sites favorite poster is a window into his petty little insecure brain. Crowe posts about movies, music,food and drink, things that interest him and is always polite and informative. Always has been. He never cared about popularity. He’s just a cool dude. For someone like dwai who no one has ever found interesting, he remembers and is still jealous of something Crowe long forgot about.

    Most ignore him despite him being the last post in every thread lately because he’s just a pathetic kid that most pity. I mean, how do you insult someone who has such a shitty existence already? And why would you bother? What can you do to someone like him that Mother Nature didn’t already?

    The next interesting post he makes will be the first. He has never added a single thing to any conversation. I actually think he’s trying to destroy the site and I have no idea why druff allows him to take his site down to the lowest common denominator in every thread. It’s possible he feels sorry for dwai and sees how insecure he is and gives him this safe space, but it’s really hurt the site significantly.

    There were a lot of people who had free time during the lockdown and probably looked at the site for the first time in years and the first thing they see in every thread was an angry little insecure boy lashing out for attention and insulting people in every thread. But he votes republican, so Druff will take exception with krypt not being as interesting, in his opinion, as he once was, and ignore the loser chasing people thread to thread with no content, just insults. That’s become the norm here lately.

    full disclosure ive had dwai on ignore for months, but one thing that deserves mention is that dwai's tone normalizes that sort of behavior for other lowest common denominator anti-social behavior disorder types.

    id say 5-10% of nwp's content was basically anti-social/toxic. im clocking this site at a comfortable 40% and its only getting worse.

    like somehow, having a thread about an erupting pandemic weeks before it took its first lives here has galvanized maybe 30% of this sites core posters against basic hygiene and other prophylactic measures designed to save innocent lives. 169,000 confirmed deaths and right now, those same users are cracking their knuckles to 'own the libs' by saying that at least a handful of those deaths had nothing to do with covid.

    this place is quite literally a cult and the god at their alter is mean spirited stupidity, because its the only thing they're good at.
    Yeah, the thing is, druff has always had a soft spot for the outcasts, and I usually respect that. Through the years, most of the people I wish he’d nap out were more liberal or just crazy. Like it isn’t political. He’s never banned anyone over politics. I’m not accusing him of that. I just don’t see the problem as slurs. Sure, get rid of them if you’re taking heat for it. I wouldn’t want associated with that, especially if I wasn’t using them.

    I listened to the radio show a few weeks back and he listed off all these things he hates from people on the right and left about the virus, and everything he listed off from the right are basically everything dwai, split, and biff post. I don’t get why he’d want them taking his site down if it irritates him?

    It’s funny to see split act like people are trying to ruin his site who have always been supportive. Who are still posting here. There isn’t any coup

    I always have appreciated everything Todd has done. I just don’t get why he’s letting a kid seemingly go out of his way to destroy the place with no content insult posts in every thread?

    I was serious when I said maybe he feels sorry for him? Fuck, he’s an ass and I feel sorry for him. How miserable are you to insult people from sun up to sun down? Who wants to open every thread and see some kid insulting everyone. I find it interesting the people who want to shrug off the virus the most are those who were clearly mentally broke by it.

    Split has 78 year old Greek men wondering wtf happened to her ffs. And she thinks others are trying to ruin the site when she’s did as much damage as anyone. She thinks people come to read her and prefer her contributions over srsly. That’s like me thinking OSA would prefer my company to a buff 20 year old.

    I will agree with her about one thing. I’ll be happy when all this shit is over. Election, virus, all of it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    allow hate speech against rural white people and christians though
    fuck them


    esp tellafag

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    full disclosure ive had dwai on ignore for months, but one thing that deserves mention is that dwai's tone normalizes that sort of behavior for other lowest common denominator anti-social behavior disorder types.

    id say 5-10% of nwp's content was basically anti-social/toxic. im clocking this site at a comfortable 40% and its only getting worse.

    like somehow, having a thread about an erupting pandemic weeks before it took its first lives here has galvanized maybe 30% of this sites core posters against basic hygiene and other prophylactic measures designed to save innocent lives. 169,000 confirmed deaths and right now, those same users are cracking their knuckles to 'own the libs' by saying that at least a handful of those deaths had nothing to do with covid.

    this place is quite literally a cult and the god at their alter is mean spirited stupidity, because its the only thing they're good at.
    Yeah, the thing is, druff has always had a soft spot for the outcasts, and I usually respect that. Through the years, most of the people I wish he’d nap out were more liberal or just crazy. Like it isn’t political. He’s never banned anyone over politics. I’m not accusing him of that. I just don’t see the problem as slurs. Sure, get rid of them if you’re taking heat for it. I wouldn’t want associated with that, especially if I wasn’t using them.

    I listened to the radio show a few weeks back and he listed off all these things he hates from people on the right and left about the virus, and everything he listed off from the right are basically everything dwai, split, and biff post. I don’t get why he’d want them taking his site down if it irritates him?

    It’s funny to see split act like people are trying to ruin his site who have always been supportive. Who are still posting here. There isn’t any coup

    I always have appreciated everything Todd has done. I just don’t get why he’s letting a kid seemingly go out of his way to destroy the place with no content insult posts in every thread?

    I was serious when I said maybe he feels sorry for him? Fuck, he’s an ass and I feel sorry for him. How miserable are you to insult people from sun up to sun down? Who wants to open every thread and see some kid insulting everyone. I find it interesting the people who want to shrug off the virus the most are those who were clearly mentally broke by it.

    Split has 78 year old Greek men wondering wtf happened to her ffs. And she thinks others are trying to ruin the site when she’s did as much damage as anyone. She thinks people come to read her and prefer her contributions over srsly. That’s like me thinking OSA would prefer my company to a buff 20 year old.

    I will agree with her about one thing. I’ll be happy when all this shit is over. Election, virus, all of it.
    grandpa mad yall

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    There was a time when I believed that the people (myself included) were using slurs in a way that was just kind of funny or ironic. Like nobody meant anything by the words, they were just used to describe something you didn’t like or what not. Like saying crows were nagger birds...obv just to describe that the crows were assholes. Poker is ...the list goes on.

    These days I feel like there’s been a shift in the intent for using those words. The guise of free speech has given way to acceptable hate speech. I think the biggest problem these days that associating with that type of speech can have real world implications.

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