View Poll Results: Should Poker Fraud Alert change its rules to disallow gratuitous bigoted speech?

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  • Yes, it's 2020 and there's no place for that shit anymore

    22 34.38%
  • No, I like the way the site is, leave things alone

    20 31.25%
  • Sort of -- only get rid of the really bad stuff, leave everything else

    20 31.25%
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You're telling me that you didn't drop the N bomb too, how about a certain alarm you kept posting to piss off micon, that you didn't use the HOFnig, that you didn't constantly post black cocks? Stfu. I like you because you're smart and witty but don't play games. Everyone who was here in the mid 2000s will remember that you are everything you're calling out right now and in fact worse.

    Yes we all grow up, but I was in my teens, you were older than I am now.. what's your excuse for spewing your racist or shock value bullshit? Seriously man, you bring up some good points, but acting like the shit you put up for yrs wouldn't get you canceled and thrown into a POW cell now a days is a fucking joke.
    im not sure who youre confusing me with but i support your right to confuse me with them.

    my shit was trannie bombing and posting the occasional cripple porn. and when i was asked to stop, i stopped.

    not sure what youre on about honestly.
    Cripple porn? Jfc I’m glad I wasn’t raised on the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You're telling me that you didn't drop the N bomb too, how about a certain alarm you kept posting to piss off micon, that you didn't use the HOFnig, that you didn't constantly post black cocks? Stfu. I like you because you're smart and witty but don't play games. Everyone who was here in the mid 2000s will remember that you are everything you're calling out right now and in fact worse.

    Yes we all grow up, but I was in my teens, you were older than I am now.. what's your excuse for spewing your racist or shock value bullshit? Seriously man, you bring up some good points, but acting like the shit you put up for yrs wouldn't get you canceled and thrown into a POW cell now a days is a fucking joke.
    im not sure who youre confusing me with but i support your right to confuse me with them.

    my shit was trannie bombing and posting the occasional cripple porn. and when i was asked to stop, i stopped.

    not sure what youre on about honestly.
    So you never once posted a black cock, dropped the n bomb or used the N alarm? Say no so everyone else here can see how much of a revisionist hypocrite you are. Seriously, playing dumb or denying it is pointless, all the old school guys here know how much of a sick fuck you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post

    So you never once posted a black cock, dropped the n bomb or used the N alarm?
    holy shit that's some fast goal post moving. went from doing these things constantly, to doing them even once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    im not sure who youre confusing me with but i support your right to confuse me with them.

    my shit was trannie bombing and posting the occasional cripple porn. and when i was asked to stop, i stopped.

    not sure what youre on about honestly.
    So you never once posted a black cock, dropped the n bomb or used the N alarm? Say no so everyone else here can see how much of a revisionist hypocrite you are. Seriously, playing dumb or denying it is pointless, all the old school guys here know how much of a sick fuck you were.

    i genuinely dont think i ever once used the term 'n-word' on any of these forums beyond calling gare a 'pasty white n-word' now and again. ive certainly never used it as any form of derogatory / hate slur.

    lol at 'all the old school guys here' btw, heaven forfend the 3 of you should think less of me, its really going to make prom awkward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post

    So you never once posted a black cock, dropped the n bomb or used the N alarm? Say no so everyone else here can see how much of a revisionist hypocrite you are. Seriously, playing dumb or denying it is pointless, all the old school guys here know how much of a sick fuck you were.

    i genuinely dont think i ever once used the term 'n-word' on any of these forums beyond calling gare a 'pasty white n-word' now and again. ive certainly never used it as any form of derogatory / hate slur.

    lol at 'all the old school guys here' btw, heaven forfend the 3 of you should think less of me, its really going to make prom awkward.
    This is a blatant lie, if NWP or DD were still up a simple search history would turn up things differently. Keep acting all enlightened when you were just as dirty if not dirtier than the right wing people you claim are racist or evil here. You're almost as bad as SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
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    So you never once posted a black cock, dropped the n bomb or used the N alarm?
    holy shit that's some fast goal post moving. went from doing these things constantly, to doing them even once.
    He implied that he had never done any of those things, everyone who was around back than knows differently. Don't try and defend your buddy, you know just as well as I do what he did back on nwp/dd.
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    hoes mad.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    hoes mad.
    Classic tine move, like you usually do. Get called out, backed into a corner, make a witty remark and hope people move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    hoes mad.
    Classic tine move, like you usually do. Get called out, backed into a corner, make a witty remark and hope people move on.


    honestly im very sorry if you were offended by my behavior on NWP. id like to think im a better person than i was then.

     
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post

    Classic tine move, like you usually do. Get called out, backed into a corner, make a witty remark and hope people move on.


    honestly im very sorry if you were offended by my behavior on NWP. id like to think im a better person than i was then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site?
    I have contributed more to this site than 95% of users, in the form of donations, radio, and god knows how many hours in photoshop and premiere.

    Not sure why you're so enraged that I participated less after being harassed and my job/family being threatened. You miss me?

    Tight life though, keep up the great work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    Some home truths coming out here. Given that racial and homophobic slurs are off limits, I’m just going to stick with calling people cunts.

    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site? All he’s done is whinge about everything the past few years while at the same time setting up a splinter site and trying steer the userbase towards it. Exact same playbook he does with his DNegs bashing vids, holier-than-thou sanctimonious shit that handicapme pointed out.

    This is the cunt that flounces off the site like a big crybaby saying he’s done, and yet proceeds to post under dupe accounts. Shits all over the site with an automated troll bot while no doubt pissing himself laughing at his brilliance. If you don’t like it here Mr Srslysirius, how about you just fuck off once and for all and take your troll bot with you to your lol safe space. Don’t give us the sanctimonious shit about trying to better the site when you contribute nothing until it suits you.


    best post the last 6 months

    SrslySirius is a huge faggot cock sucker two faced loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site?
    I have contributed more to this site than 95% of users, in the form of donations, radio, and god knows how many hours in photoshop and premiere.

    Not sure why you're so enraged that I participated less after being harassed and my job/family being threatened. You miss me?

    Tight life though, keep up the great work.
    all you've done is cry like a faggot for years, we don't want your photoshop, we don't want you on radio, just fuck off and die.

    hang yourself


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    Another one of Druff’s team building exercises.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site?
    I have contributed more to this site than 95% of users, in the form of donations, radio, and god knows how many hours in photoshop and premiere.

    Not sure why you're so enraged that I participated less after being harassed and my job/family being threatened. You miss me?

    Tight life though, keep up the great work.


    was it that freak lewfeather??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    Some home truths coming out here. Given that racial and homophobic slurs are off limits, I’m just going to stick with calling people cunts.

    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site? All he’s done is whinge about everything the past few years while at the same time setting up a splinter site and trying steer the userbase towards it. Exact same playbook he does with his DNegs bashing vids, holier-than-thou sanctimonious shit that handicapme pointed out.

    This is the cunt that flounces off the site like a big crybaby saying he’s done, and yet proceeds to post under dupe accounts. Shits all over the site with an automated troll bot while no doubt pissing himself laughing at his brilliance. If you don’t like it here Mr Srslysirius, how about you just fuck off once and for all and take your troll bot with you to your lol safe space. Don’t give us the sanctimonious shit about trying to better the site when you contribute nothing until it suits you.


    best post the last 6 months

    SrslySirius is a huge faggot cock sucker two faced loser
    Lol you called him god two weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site?
    I have contributed more to this site than 95% of users, in the form of donations, radio, and god knows how many hours in photoshop and premiere.

    Not sure why you're so enraged that I participated less after being harassed and my job/family being threatened. You miss me?

    Tight life though, keep up the great work.
    Nobody threatened your job or family tale spinner. Anything negative happening to you is because of you, you evil cocksucker.

     
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    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    yeah he's the evil cocksucker..... you are a disgraceful PIG



    eat shit bitch

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
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    best post the last 6 months

    SrslySirius is a huge faggot cock sucker two faced loser
    Lol you called him god two weeks ago.
    I gave him credit for something funny I believe, I've always clowned on that skinny faggot, CHECK MY HISTORY.
    he's always been a snake, quad jacks, FAIL, bluff? he single handedly made them go bankrupt, Doug polk, FAIL, lolfagaments, FUTURE FAIL

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    Well, it's not surprising that this thread degenerated into what you see here.

    I feel there's a lot of confusion regarding a number of things:

    1) While I expressed concern last month about SrslySirius, sonatine, and stockamets, I no longer have such concern. While our Zoom call probably went on a bit too long, I felt it accomplished a lot. Everyone got to air their concerns, and by the end of the call, I trusted the sincerity of everyone involved. I do not believe sonatine or Srsly are taking their current position in this thread as a secret plot to destroy PFA.

    2) I think there is some misunderstanding about complaints regarding PFA. There are two separate types of PFA forum complaints. The first type comes from active users/lurkers who read this place several times per week. These people sometimes hate the trolling, shitposting, etc. When I get complaints about people like dwai, limitles, etc, it comes from people who regularly read PFA. The second type comes from outsiders who occasionally visit or have come here once or twice. Their complaints are about the racist/homophobic language and general hostility of the place. These people don't read enough to become annoyed about any particular political ideology or thread derailing shitposts. They just see people fighting and the n-bomb being thrown around, and they conclude this is a cespool. Now, I will admit that I care more about what regular readers/posters think than outsiders, but I also don't want to be known throughout poker as the guy who runs "that racist poker forum". Again, it's important to understand that it's my name attached to this thing.

    3) I realize that we are 8.5 years in here, and I'm not going to change much about PFA's rep, no matter what I do. I've seen this mistake time and time again regarding online communities. The owner says, "My forum/BBS/chat room attracts X group of people, but Y group of people hate it. So I'll make a bunch of changes to attract group Y." Then it turns out group Y has already made up their mind about the place, and they still don't come. At the same time, group X hates the changes, and the place becomes a ghost town. So I don't want that happening here, and I realize that is a distinct possibility if I dramatically remake PFA. So I'm definitely not making dramatic changes here, no matter what.

    4) As you guys have probably seen during my 20 years in poker, I've never kissed anyone's ass, and I don't attempt to make myself liked by the cool kids in poker. I just do my own thing, express my opinions, say what I want, and let the chips fall. The opinions of me from this community are more important to me than the opinions of the general poker community. At the same time, I also hate when people have the wrong impression of me, and I've long been concerned that many in poker have mistook my support of free speech as support of bigotry. In 2020, that's an especially bad look.

    I still have not made a decision yet as to what I should do.

    Carry on.

     
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