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    Serial killer in Idyllwild, California?

    Idyllwild is a small mountain community with a population around 4,000. It is fairly remote, with the closest nearby city being Hemet about 20-25 miles away. It's about 30 miles away from Casino Morongo, and about 50 miles from Palm Springs (though Palm Springs would be fairly close if impassable mountains weren't in the way).

    Anyway, it appears the area either has a serial killer, multiple killers, or some people with really bad luck.

    There are now 6 people unrelated missing from Idyllwild since March. Five of the six are women.

    Jade Kemerer vanished around July 22, last being seen at the Bluebird Inn there.





    Venessa Vlasek disappeared in mid-May.






    Melissa Lane went to go hiking in Idyllwild on June 15 "without a destination", and then vanished without a trace.





    Lydia "Dia" Abrams is a 65-year-old who owns a large property in Idyllwild, and keeps many animals on the premises. She vanished on June 7, with her car and other personal belongings still at home.






    73-year-old Rosario Garcia is from nearby Hemet, and vanished in Pinyon Pines, which is 40 miles southeast of Hemet, and 26 miles from Idyllwild. Garcia's car was found empty on the highway on July 7.






    The lone missing male was also the one which dates the farthest back. Roy Prifogle was an Idyllwild local who went out on a hike on March 4. He was seen at a market at 6:30pm, about 5 hours after starting his hike, and then vanished into thin air. Given that Prifogle hasn't been heard from in 5 months, it's safe to assume he's dead.






    Now, there are various possible explanations here which don't involve serial killers. I googled all the names involved and came up with a few things.

    Three of the missing people -- Jade Kemerer, Melissa Lane, and Venessa Vlasek all had fairly unstable ilves. Kemerer, in fact, has an arrest record.

    Rosario Garcia is thought to suffer from some degree dementia or Alzheimer's.

    Hiking accidents also occur all the time, and usually missing solo hikers are the result of an accident or health issue, rather than anything sinister. (Remember the sports handicapper who completely vanished at Mount Charleston, only to be found having died from falling off a cliff, after an extensive search?) That could explain the disappearances of Roy Prifogle and Melissa Lane.

    The most suspicious disappearance of the bunch was that of Lydia "Dia" Abrams. Lydia was not going out to hike, her vehicle and belongings were still on her property, and she was a successful ranch owner. She is 65, but was not known to be suffering from any significant mental decline (which wouldn't be all that common at 65. anyway). She vanished into thin air. I'm guessing someone kidnapped and/or killed her. Whether this criminal is responsible for all or most of these other disappearances is a big question.

    Someone I know in Idyllwild told me that this entire situation is highly unusual, and that they've never seen this many people vanish at once. If I had to guess, something pretty bad is going on there.

    Here's an article about the missing people: https://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2020/...ssing-in-area/

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    wait wtf steve kerr and his maid got murdered

     
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    wait as im reading this more closely did we lose the pickle heiress NOT THE PICKLE HEIRESS PEOPLE

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    get it venessa vlasek get it

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    also that steve kerr and his maid joke was literally plat ur welcome idiots

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    lol @ removing my post Druff, shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    also that steve kerr and his maid joke was literally plat ur welcome idiots
    Wow that really is Steve Kerr

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    So either Roy Prifogle is doing the killings, or Druff is bragging about his own crimes.
    Druff with the classic "O I would never go hiking these days" to distract us from it.
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    on second look its autistic daniel craig how dare you murderer

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    btw honey boy on amazon prime is absolutely stunning and they now have kingdom on netflix ur welcome idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    So either Roy Prifogle is doing the killings, or Druff is bragging about his own crimes.
    Druff with the classic "O I would never go hiking these days" to distract us from it.
    If it really is Roy, and he's living in the woods like a mountain man after faking his own disappearance, that would be pretty brilliant.

    On a side note, it seems that when a lone female hiker sets out into the woods or mountains with "no set destination", it rarely ends well.

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    Also this story reminds me of the Malibu serial killer, who was murdering campers but for some reason the police and media treated the whole thing as ho-hum and felt the killings were not related.

    Then they caught the guy, and yeah, he was a serial killer: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...area-campsites

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    Where was Brad Booth going camping again?

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    Cool

    I would look for a EX/current military fella who washed out of SEAl/Ranger/recon training...and is mentally ill...
    very rare to kill Male and female to where the bodies are not found.

    W/M 25-30. ex military, a wash out. misfit...find the last couple years records of which military conducted exercises There...
    Then look for washed out/discharged with OTH other Than Honorable situation....On the case baby...

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    Similar to meth timeline photos, starts with good looking, progresses to old, then killer finally turns to dudes.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post

    Similar to meth timeline photos, starts with good looking, progresses to old, then killer finally turns to dudes.



    Guy was 1st.
    Thinking on this, might be a old local, that snatches em and hunts them in a remote spread...
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    The two young ones are alive.

    Jade Kemerer and Venessa Vlasek were found safe.

    I pretty much called it when I said that those two were unstable and might have just run away from their existing lives. That's what happened.

    Kemerer is 30, has a 10-year-old son, and was moving back to Ohio. Her mom came out, flew the son back, and Jade promised to drive back, since she had to get her car to Ohio.

    On July 28, she called her friend & lied that her car had broken down, then wouldn't answer her phone and pretended it broke. She was found staying with a friend in Anaheim.

    Looks like her plan was to ditch her son with her mom and run off.

    Don't have the details on the pickle lady but she also voluntarily vanished.

    The other four haven't been located. My prediction is that Melissa Lane will be found alive (she was also unstable), but the other 3 aren't alive anymore.

    I'm also now believing it wasn't a serial killer.

    My guess is that Roy Prifogle had a hiking accident, Lydia Abrams was murdered by someone she knows, and Rosario Garcia wandered off due to dementia and died somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The two young ones are alive.

    Jade Kemerer and Venessa Vlasek were found safe.
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    My guess is that Roy Prifogle had a hiking accident, Lydia Abrams was murdered by someone she knows, and Rosario Garcia wandered off due to dementia and died somewhere.
    Looks like I called another one correctly.

    While the murder hasn't been solved, the most likely scenario was that Lydia was killed by her 71-year-old boyfriend, who convinced her to move her assets into a trust he managed. If she were to be gone for 5 years, the assets would go to him.

    He convinced her to transfer the assets to the trust because she was having a dispute over her truck, which her late husband's kids were trying to get.

    https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/in...e-cb04937fe62f

    Nobody has been arrested yet, though, and Lydia has not been found.

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    As always Druff is/was correct!!

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