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    Sahara takes VitalVegas to task for saying they're going to close

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1288961644614148096


    Vital Vegas has been known to act irresponsibly at times, tweeting out lots of false rumors without doing any kind of sanity check. Sometimes they're correct and calls something before it happens, but they're also wrong a whole lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1288961644614148096


    Vital Vegas has been known to act irresponsibly at times, tweeting out lots of false rumors without doing any kind of sanity check. Sometimes they're correct and calls something before it happens, but they're also wrong a whole lot.
    Have no idea if heís right or not but thereís no way a casino would admit to it if they were on the verge of closing anyway.

    Considering his reach, do you think he has an obligation to confirm that before tweeting?

    I canít see how a whole bunch of casinos donít close for good as it looks like our government will not allow things to return to normal anytime soon. Vegas just cannot survive as it has in this global environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Considering his reach, do you think he has an obligation to confirm that before tweeting?
    If he could confirm it, he wouldn't label it as a "rumor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    OK. Do you think itís responsible to tweet a rumor that could devastate a business and help eliminate jobs during these crippling economic times?
    The last thing I'm gonna do is debate what's "responsible" to post on twitter, and if I was gonna, I wouldn't start with a rumor about a casino closing.

    Lotta things killing the casinos right now. That tweet is not one of them.
    LOL. Join the conversation willingly and then complain about even being in such a stupid conversation. Finish by stating your opinion on said conversation thatís not worth discussing.

    Welcome to 2020.

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    This has not been publicized, but Sahara is currently suing VitalVegas (aka Scott Roeben) for the false rumor.

    Here's the filing: https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/...as-lawsuit.pdf

    They're only asking for $15k + punitive damages, which is surprising. I'd think they could demand more.

    This doesn't seem frivolous. According to the lawsuit, they attempted to correct him, but he kept doubling down on the original claim, and kept asserting in various ways (directly and indirectly) that the closure was coming.

    Ouch.

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    This has not been publicized, but Sahara is currently suing VitalVegas (aka Scott Roeben) for the false rumor.

    Here's the filing: https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/...as-lawsuit.pdf

    They're only asking for $15k + punitive damages, which is surprising. I'd think they could demand more.

    This doesn't seem frivolous. According to the lawsuit, they attempted to correct him, but he kept doubling down on the original claim, and kept asserting in various ways (directly and indirectly) that the closure was coming.

    Ouch.

    Spk of SAHARA ....I see a Sex Offender is looking to host a 4-8 game at the Sahara,... how are the Managers ok with that? do they even know it? I saw this news on Chainsaw's(Al. Kessler) comments...hard to believe.. A known scammer on Real Grinders and a Certified Sex off...wowza... times must be tuff. We Shd sue the Sahara for this.

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    Mr. Roeben retained Marc Randazza as an attorney against the Sahara suit, who is well respected. Randazza is a known First Amendment lawyer, and has appeared on CNN.

    I was sent a copy of Randazza's anti-SLAPP filing on Roeben's behalf. Some more info came out, and now I think it's actually looking fairly good for Roeben to beat this.

    The strongest piece of evidence in Roeben's favor is that a source at a liquidation firm had told Roeben in July that Sahara had contacted them about liquidating the entire property.

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    The filing also claims that Sahara is a "public figure", and thus the burden of proof here is "actual malice", which requires that Roeben would have had to know his claims were false at the time he made them. Since it's clear that Roeben thought the rumors were accurate, Sahara definitely can't prove that.

    An attorney I know in Las Vegas told me that he agrees with my assessment that Roeben is looking fairly good here, especially given that Nevada has been leaning in general in recent years toward granting anti-SLAPP motions.''

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