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    Woke left at it again.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...231931533.html

    Druff, you need to get on your dudes at Fox and tell them to use VPN's and change accounts frequently to hide detection - kinda like putting a white hood over their head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Snead View Post
    Woke left at it again.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...231931533.html

    Druff, you need to get on your dudes at Fox and tell them to use VPN's and change accounts frequently to hide detection - kinda like putting a white hood over their head.
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    what forum was he posting on, it definitely wasn't pfa2 (we don't allow the n word there) probably stockamets or the old pfa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Snead View Post
    Woke left at it again.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...231931533.html

    Druff, you need to get on your dudes at Fox and tell them to use VPN's and change accounts frequently to hide detection - kinda like putting a white hood over their head.
    I don't understand the point here.

    One Tucker writer posting racist things online in the past is equivalent to an entire left-wing cancel culture movement?

    This thread is about a mass-attempt by the left to cancel anyone who disagrees with them, not shaming individual idiots for doing dumb things online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Snead View Post
    Woke left at it again.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...231931533.html

    Druff, you need to get on your dudes at Fox and tell them to use VPN's and change accounts frequently to hide detection - kinda like putting a white hood over their head.
    I don't understand the point here.

    One Tucker writer posting racist things online in the past is equivalent to an entire left-wing cancel culture movement?

    This thread is about a mass-attempt by the left to cancel anyone who disagrees with them, not shaming individual idiots for doing dumb things online.
    It isn't the left it's crazy fringe left.

    The right's crazy fringe already took over the Republican party.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
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    I don't understand the point here.

    One Tucker writer posting racist things online in the past is equivalent to an entire left-wing cancel culture movement?

    This thread is about a mass-attempt by the left to cancel anyone who disagrees with them, not shaming individual idiots for doing dumb things online.
    It isn't the left it's crazy fringe left.

    The right's crazy fringe already took over the Republican party.
    But it hasn't. Finding a few random racists in the bunch doesn't equal a massive movement like cancel culture.

    What crazy fringe laws/changes are being pushed by the right? I'm talking about today's mainstream right, not a few idiot racists in the bunch.

    The only thing I can come up with is the attempt to completely ban abortion in states like Alabama, but that was in response to the left legalizing late term abortion for any reason in certain other states. Had the left not perverted the entire concept of Roe v Wade in the recent years (which was supposed to be "safe, legal, and rare"), this battle wouldn't have started up again recently.

    Anyway, besides that, what craziness are we seeing from the right? And I'm talking about actual policy, not nebulous claims about "increased racism and white supremacy under Trump" or anything like that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    It isn't the left it's crazy fringe left.

    The right's crazy fringe already took over the Republican party.
    But it hasn't. Finding a few random racists in the bunch doesn't equal a massive movement like cancel culture.

    What crazy fringe laws/changes are being pushed by the right? I'm talking about today's mainstream right, not a few idiot racists in the bunch.

    The only thing I can come up with is the attempt to completely ban abortion in states like Alabama, but that was in response to the left legalizing late term abortion for any reason in certain other states. Had the left not perverted the entire concept of Roe v Wade in the recent years (which was supposed to be "safe, legal, and rare"), this battle wouldn't have started up again recently.

    Anyway, besides that, what craziness are we seeing from the right? And I'm talking about actual policy, not nebulous claims about "increased racism and white supremacy under Trump" or anything like that.
    lol no response because there is none, if you're a left party member you are fringe, nobody in the real world agrees with your trans woman bullshit, your BLM bullshit, your looting and rioting for "justice" for some black guy that overdosed on drugs. we'll see you in 4 years when you guys have gotten more extreme and still haven't figured out what real Americans and voters want and try running some woman of color ROFL

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    Actually I was saying to a conservative friend the other day that maybe we're better off if Trump loses, the Dems also get the House and Senate, and they have 4 years to run wild with their insane bullshit.

    There might be a lasting backlash to the woke nonsense, and for the long term health of the country, that might be exactly what we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Actually I was saying to a conservative friend the other day that maybe we're better off if Trump loses, the Dems also get the House and Senate, and they have 4 years to run wild with their insane bullshit.

    There might be a lasting backlash to the woke nonsense, and for the long term health of the country, that might be exactly what we need.


    and then we can blame anything, literally anything on their president for 4 years. watching them fall and blunder everything with their woke bullshit for 4 years, and maybe we can cancel cancel culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    A number of famous liberals such as Noam Chomsky, Salman Rushdie, J.K. Rowling, and Margarat Atwood were among 100 left-leaning intellectuals putting forth a scathing editorial against modern cancel culture.

    You know... that cancel culture which several PFA leftists say doesn't really exist, or they claim is being exaggerated by Fox News.

    Basically some mature, sensible, life-experienced liberals are horrified that the woke left has hijacked their party and movement. They're highly frustrated to see that an increasing number of Democrats believe that censorship and punishment of non-believers is a healthy way to run a democracy.


    Our cultural institutions are facing a moment of trial. Powerful protests for racial and social justice are leading to overdue demands for police reform, along with wider calls for greater equality and inclusion across our society, not least in higher education, journalism, philanthropy, and the arts. But this needed reckoning has also intensified a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favor of ideological conformity. As we applaud the first development, we also raise our voices against the second. The forces of illiberalism are gaining strength throughout the world and have a powerful ally in Donald Trump, who represents a real threat to democracy. But resistance must not be allowed to harden into its own brand of dogma or coercion—which right-wing demagogues are already exploiting. The democratic inclusion we want can be achieved only if we speak out against the intolerant climate that has set in on all sides.

    The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted. While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty. We uphold the value of robust and even caustic counter-speech from all quarters. But it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms. Editors are fired for running controversial pieces; books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class; a researcher is fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study; and the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes. Whatever the arguments around each particular incident, the result has been to steadily narrow the boundaries of what can be said without the threat of reprisal. We are already paying the price in greater risk aversion among writers, artists, and journalists who fear for their livelihoods if they depart from the consensus, or even lack sufficient zeal in agreement.

    This stifling atmosphere will ultimately harm the most vital causes of our time. The restriction of debate, whether by a repressive government or an intolerant society, invariably hurts those who lack power and makes everyone less capable of democratic participation. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away. We refuse any false choice between justice and freedom, which cannot exist without each other. As writers we need a culture that leaves us room for experimentation, risk taking, and even mistakes. We need to preserve the possibility of good-faith disagreement without dire professional consequences. If we won’t defend the very thing on which our work depends, we shouldn’t expect the public or the state to defend it for us.
    https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-just...d-open-debate/

    You can see the list of 100 names at the link above.
    Forgive me for being a little analytical here Druff but generally alt-right refers to the far right extremists like David Duke and what not aka the KKK and truly loony right who are the poster children for ammo by the media leftists and idiots use to call out the small minority of racists on the right.. But you literally went from Alt Right in the headlines to liberal gasbags you mentioned in the posting.. So yeah im a wee bit confused here.. BTW on a side note to the cancel culture Im finding it hilarious that the closeted bigot Lin-Manuel Miranda who has been allowed to get away with discrimination in his production company is now getting the hammer from the left because well Hamilton owned slaves so even his stupid dumb racist ass isnt immune to this.. Hes literally being gobsmacked by the very people he claimed were his brethren against the evil oppressive whiteys as he saw them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Actually I was saying to a conservative friend the other day that maybe we're better off if Trump loses, the Dems also get the House and Senate, and they have 4 years to run wild with their insane bullshit.

    There might be a lasting backlash to the woke nonsense, and for the long term health of the country, that might be exactly what we need.
    Are you out of your mind Druff?? No offense but that cant happen.. If the Dems get control you think the Unaffordable Care Act was a steaming pile of shit.. Even 2 yrs to enact shit might take us down a rabbit hole economically we may take decades to recover from.. No No no hell fucking no.. First off lets just admit Biden is a place holder for them to install whoever theyre grooming to take over for Biden when hes forced out due to his senility becoming too blatant to be ignored.. You really want somebody like Kamalla Harris as President?? Nope no thanks.. The logic your using is akin to cutting ones nose off to spite your face.. The amount of potential long term damage by an unfettered leftist agenda could leave us with exactly what we dont want..Sudden open borders, unfettered citizenship to all those illegals who crossed and suddenly get voting rights now to vote legally vs the likely illegally voting plebs they are now (LA County has 114% registered voters of what its true eligible numbers should be). Not only that with the already ridiculous censorship ongoing in the media including places like FB and Twatter (Im in FB jail with 2 weeks to go for posting a pic regarding Joe Biden that had been on Facebook already for 2 yrs but suddenly I post it and its considered obscene.. truth hurts it was a collage of pics of dirty creepy joe and his behavior around underage girls..Im almost flattered FB thinks Im a big enough threat to Biden to suspend my ability to post for 30 days because of it) the left could continue to vilify and borderline criminalize speech that doesnt fit their narrative.. At best we might get a Atlas Shrugged situation but Im not hopeful due to the fact a large chunk of these rich corporate pukes are limo leftists at worst we have a situation where the US Economy takes a turd dump akin to the 1930s and it took WWII to dig out of it economically.. No thanks.. Ill pass.. If anything I suspect were gonna see the opposite happen Trump is re-elected by a margain the left becomes even more apoplectic... They hold or gain Senate Seats and a bunch of those Dems who won seats in 2018 are fired after only a couple yrs due to the Dems do nothing but a circular firing squad trying to take down Trump non stop instead of actually doing something useful in Congress.... Steve Scalise will be the new House Speaker come Jan 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I don't understand the point here.

    One Tucker writer posting racist things online in the past is equivalent to an entire left-wing cancel culture movement?

    This thread is about a mass-attempt by the left to cancel anyone who disagrees with them, not shaming individual idiots for doing dumb things online.
    It isn't the left it's crazy fringe left.

    The right's crazy fringe already took over the Republican party.
    Trumps is far from crazy fringe right.. Hes proposed shit that the GOP has shit a brick over such as a massive infrastructure program which has been championed by the Democrats for years and is sadly overdue but because its not one of their own in the WH they've stalled any discussions to move forward on it (BTW the entire cost of the infrastructure upgrade including finally building I-11 between Vegas and Phoenix would've cost less then 1/3 of what we've already spent for Covid relief roughly 1.5T was the estimated cost with a net benefit and return on investment within 10yrs or less with improved transportation network allowing goods and such to flow faster and more efficiently). Trump wants to disengage us from the last 20 yrs of military action which is the longest continuous military operations this country has EVER SEEN in his history even Vietnam wasn't close (counting the original advisors under Kennedy at most it was 13yrs) Trump is in reality a populist and always has been he's pretty middle of the road overall he wants less government involvement because generally government invariably fucks up shit it runs, but strong a National Defense and believes in supporting our middle class and manufacturing industries which the Dems and GOP both had abandoned to China and Mexico among others.. The ignorance of both parties and the widening division between rich and poor with a shrinking middle class is what got him elected to begin with.. The Globalists in both parties were content to just keep the status quo and to hell with the avg joe blow citizen and I hate to say it its still going on.. Do you think folks are happy with the riots in these cities the total disregard for law and order that almost has turned shit into The Purge??? Yeah There's gonna be a Thor's Hammer come down in Nov and it aint going to be pretty.. I'm still curious as to what's happening here in AZ as some politicos just assume they are safe.. The folks are pushing for a recall of the Governor whos a Republican.. The citizens have basically had enough of the lifer politicians acting like they know better then the populace as a whole and its gonna be a rude awakening even bigger then 2016 I'm thinking..

     
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