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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    Is a bunch of teenagers and young 20 somethings that post on FB or SC now considered "organized" these days?
    Nah. It's the people above them as always. They point where to hit and collect. There was just more distraction than normal in the last 2 months. For biker gangs they would be hang arounds. I don't know what's the street gang equivalent. And for NY it's a bit different anyways. More money motivated and more independent. Ambivalent.
    I have never known an inner city shoplifter. I see the videos like anyone else of organized shoplifters, and it seems to be a big city phenomenon, but don’t know or have ever known any.

    What I’ve known is a lot of dudes in the hood who are drug dealer/fences. Those guys are a dime a dozen. The same dude who deals moves all kinds of stolen shit. I know this guy who owns a restaurant that will basically place an order, and this dude sends out all the junkies to steal the shit from grocery stores, and clearly they don’t get much for it considering he can trade them drugs and sell it for .50 on the dollar to others and still make $.

    I would guess most of these organized shoplifter leaders most likely made their way up in drugs, lived in a major city, and saw that dynamic, and went for the crime that has slap on the wrist sentences compared to drug sentences.

    That’s just a guess, but I’d bet that’s the natural progression for the guys who run those crews. Similar labor pool also. Most of the looters wouldn’t even be able to move the shit they steal. It would be someone who understands the game and gets a bunch of kids to steal shit and take .50 on the dollar or less. A 16 year old looter isn’t going to have some online shop to sell Fendi purses and high end shit. That’s a world they don’t even understand. It has to be enormously profitable to the ringleaders. Some street kid would fall over grateful if you gave him $500 for something you know is worth $2500.

     
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    If they voted they obviously would vote Democrat at about 90%, but these aren’t really political protests And it’s incredibly likely they don’t belong to any political party. These are just punk ass criminals being criminals.

    If of the left, you mean black, of course black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, but it’s rarely political.

    The cop dead was killed by a guy with a clear political agenda on the right. A guy in Pittsburgh who was a right winger set a bag of some type of explosives hoping to kill protestors. In numbers they pale to common criminals, but they’re certainly more political when they do act.

    Is there some documented list of violent crimes committed by antifa? Like killings and serious violence? I’m asking in good faith. I truthfully don’t know.

    I have saw reports from the DOJ saying almost no antifa involvement was found among those arrested a few weeks into the protests.That despite all the talk, almost all arrests were local.

    There were a number of white supremacist incidents. That’s not to imply anyone is more likely to die at the hands of them than a black kid, that’s not true, but ascribing criminality to some political movement is a different thing.


    I think, other than for Obama, roughly 15-18% of black kids 18-25 even vote. So of the left or any of this is strange branding. Fucking trash, the violent kids are, no doubt, but I also doubt some shitbag looter or violent criminal is waiting in line for 6 hours to vote. He doesn’t very likely belong to any political party.

    If this was my argument, my argument wouldn’t be I wonder what party they belong to, but rather which party is more likely to make excuses for their behavior. That would be accurate, and a problem I’m sick of on the left. I would like to see more Dems call this shit out. I’d really like to see some strong black leadership step up and call this shit out. That would have more resonance and work better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Nah. It's the people above them as always. They point where to hit and collect. There was just more distraction than normal in the last 2 months. For biker gangs they would be hang arounds. I don't know what's the street gang equivalent. And for NY it's a bit different anyways. More money motivated and more independent. Ambivalent.

    A 16 year old looter isn’t going to have some online shop to sell Fendi purses and high end shit
    . That’s a world they don’t even understand. It has to be enormously profitable to the ringleaders. Some street kid would fall over grateful if you gave him $500 for something you know is worth $2500.

    I think your age is showing here. With technology and the internet you can make a living doing just that. Ever heard of StockX? EBay? Craigslist? Poshmark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post
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    A 16 year old looter isn’t going to have some online shop to sell Fendi purses and high end shit
    . That’s a world they don’t even understand. It has to be enormously profitable to the ringleaders. Some street kid would fall over grateful if you gave him $500 for something you know is worth $2500.

    I think your age is showing here. With technology and the internet you can make a living doing just that. Ever heard of StockX? EBay? Craigslist? Poshmark?
    The latter 3. Not stockx. It’s possible you’re right, but I’m talking when you see a store overran by hundreds of street kids. I’m sure there is sophisticated smaller groups that are more equal in the profits.

    I simply doubt many kids are that sophisticated. Some twink hustler you might meet would be, but I would guess most of that shit lands in some older guys storage unit and he sells it.

    You need bank accounts and have to understand that world. Like a group of educated kids are going to understand it, twenty somethings, but less of that street kid demographic I’d guess. You also need to have the ability to wait on the money. Why do pawnshops and payday loans thrive? You could almost always sell shit for more. The ability to quickly cash in is huge. Most junked are white and more likely 30 than 16. They could sell the shit they steal for 3x. They need drugs today. They know that shit exists. Poor people need $ now.

    So I’m sure there are organized groups of 8–10 guys who travel and it’s more collaborative. I imagine a lot of young people make a living shoplifting, but I’d guess ringleaders make much more than a living. They get rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    If they voted they obviously would vote Democrat at about 90%, but these aren’t really political protests And it’s incredibly likely they don’t belong to any political party. These are just punk ass criminals being criminals.

    If of the left, you mean black, of course black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, but it’s rarely political.

    The cop dead was killed by a guy with a clear political agenda on the right. A guy in Pittsburgh who was a right winger set a bag of some type of explosives hoping to kill protestors. In numbers they pale to common criminals, but they’re certainly more political when they do act.

    Is there some documented list of violent crimes committed by antifa? Like killings and serious violence? I’m asking in good faith. I truthfully don’t know.

    I have saw reports from the DOJ saying almost no antifa involvement was found among those arrested a few weeks into the protests.That despite all the talk, almost all arrests were local.

    There were a number of white supremacist incidents. That’s not to imply anyone is more likely to die at the hands of them than a black kid, that’s not true, but ascribing criminality to some political movement is a different thing.


    I think, other than for Obama, roughly 15-18% of black kids 18-25 even vote. So of the left or any of this is strange branding. Fucking trash, the violent kids are, no doubt, but I also doubt some shitbag looter or violent criminal is waiting in line for 6 hours to vote. He doesn’t very likely belong to any political party.

    If this was my argument, my argument wouldn’t be I wonder what party they belong to, but rather which party is more likely to make excuses for their behavior. That would be accurate, and a problem I’m sick of on the left. I would like to see more Dems call this shit out. I’d really like to see some strong black leadership step up and call this shit out. That would have more resonance and work better.
    Not sure about Antifa murders. Serious violence, yes. There's lots of documented cases of that. If you follow Andy Ngo, he documents it constantly regarding Portland, with links to police/court records, etc.

    I asked (sarcastically) about the political party of those young men beating up those white people because this wasn't just a case of thugs in the city committing crime.

    This was a case of where white Christians were targeted specifically for political/social reasons. While I'll agree that this violent group of people wouldn't likely qualify as political wonks, this also wasn't just random violence of opportunity.

    Talking about murders or domestic terrorist incidents is unfair, because the left doesn't usually escalate to murder or terrorism, but commits mob-type violent crime in huge numbers. The right does not have giant mobs beating people up or destroying things. If a large number of extreme right wingers get together and cause violence as a group, it's big news and very rare. Additionally, the right always condemns it -- both publicly and privately. Trust me when I say that, even in small, closed conservative Facebook groups, the majority isn't cheering The Proud Boys.

    It's a different matter with the left and Antifa or violent BLM-type protesters. They make excuses. They express support. They won't condemn. They deny the level of violence. They make false equivalencies, such as stating that Antifa doesn't murder, whereas "the right wing" does, referring to white supremacists. It's an extremely dishonest conversation. I joined a left-wing Facebook group just for lulz and was shocked at some of the talk I saw there. The violence was widely praised, the term "revolution" was thrown around, and there was widespread advocacy of beating up or killing prominent Republican politicians. I wish I took some screen shots, but I stupidly spoke up there pretending to question this stuff from a moderate left point of view, and was quickly booted from the group.

    The left has become more and more accepting of violence to "solve problems" that they feel haven't been solved by other means. Their justification is that "nothing else has worked". They explained the violent rioting and looting this month as "black people being forced to do this after peaceful protesters like Colin Kaepernick were shut down."

    If you think political/social violence is accepted the same way on the left as it is the right in 2020, you aren't seeing it properly.

    Even on PFA, the fact that even guys like dwai and sidedish aren't praising the Proud Boys, while we have several members praising Antifa, should speak volumes.

    Quietly, or not-so-quietly, many leftists smile when Antifa hurts someone they disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    If they voted they obviously would vote Democrat at about 90%, but these aren’t really political protests And it’s incredibly likely they don’t belong to any political party. These are just punk ass criminals being criminals.

    If of the left, you mean black, of course black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, but it’s rarely political.

    The cop dead was killed by a guy with a clear political agenda on the right. A guy in Pittsburgh who was a right winger set a bag of some type of explosives hoping to kill protestors. In numbers they pale to common criminals, but they’re certainly more political when they do act.

    Is there some documented list of violent crimes committed by antifa? Like killings and serious violence? I’m asking in good faith. I truthfully don’t know.

    I have saw reports from the DOJ saying almost no antifa involvement was found among those arrested a few weeks into the protests.That despite all the talk, almost all arrests were local.

    There were a number of white supremacist incidents. That’s not to imply anyone is more likely to die at the hands of them than a black kid, that’s not true, but ascribing criminality to some political movement is a different thing.


    I think, other than for Obama, roughly 15-18% of black kids 18-25 even vote. So of the left or any of this is strange branding. Fucking trash, the violent kids are, no doubt, but I also doubt some shitbag looter or violent criminal is waiting in line for 6 hours to vote. He doesn’t very likely belong to any political party.

    If this was my argument, my argument wouldn’t be I wonder what party they belong to, but rather which party is more likely to make excuses for their behavior. That would be accurate, and a problem I’m sick of on the left. I would like to see more Dems call this shit out. I’d really like to see some strong black leadership step up and call this shit out. That would have more resonance and work better.

    Talking about murders or domestic terrorist incidents is unfair, because the left doesn't usually escalate to murder or terrorism, but commits mob-type violent crime in huge numbers.
    So now we're at the point where we're redefining what is and what isn't violence. Just so you would have a fighting chance. We're completely removing the most violent acts that right commits every year just so your equivalency would sound less retarded.

    And i'm sure you have something resembling studies to back the huge numbers of mob type crime. Or is this just anecdotal evidence from "reporters" such as Andy Ngo. Who was filmed being in the middle of Patriot Prayer planning to attack Antifa at the Cider Riot. You know some good ol fashioned mob violence. Andy forgot to report that. His report framed that meticulously planned attack as an organic self-defense situation for the Patriot Prayer. That guy is your source.

     
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    Who is this Gimmick guy? I've always thought Jimmy was the clear cut most retarded poster on this form. Then here comes this mother fucker giving Jimmy an honest run.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Who is this Gimmick guy? I've always thought Jimmy was the clear cut most retarded poster on this form. Then here comes this mother fucker giving Jimmy an honest run.
    Thank you for this glimpse into a mind of an idiot. Solid contribution as always. I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to type something that amounts to nothing, but it's all very interesting. Imagine an alternate reality where you don't anoint us with your words and absolutely nothing changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The "peacefully protesting" left, everyone...


    https://twitter.com/CMartinForMO/status/1277299705999917063

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    I wonder which political party those attackers belong to...
    Druff, I would have thought that you would approve of those attacks on those Catholics worshiping at the statue of hard-line anti-Semite such as Louis IX, a.k.a Saint Louis, who, among other offenses against Jews during his reign as King of France had thousands of copies of the Talmud burned, confiscated a lot of their property, and banned interest-bearing lending in France. Oh, and he instituted harsh punishments for gambling.
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    Is this like a contest where Mumbles and gimmick are trying to out-terrible one another?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Is this like a contest where Mumbles and gimmick are trying to out-terrible one another?
    I guess that's a response. No, but seriously can you extrapolate on this, "Talking about murders or domestic terrorist incidents is unfair, because the left doesn't usually escalate to murder or terrorism". Like wtf were you thinking? Did it make sense to you at some point or is this an American education thing where spewing more words isn't just a waste of everyone's time?

    Like how does that work out? When only one team scores we should call it a draw. I mean clearly that's not fair for the team that didn't score. Is this some new angle to out retard participation awards?

    While you're at it, you also skipped clarifying what you meant with protests in the sixties. What about those protests?

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    lol gimmick never disappoints with how dumb he can actually be, makes jimmyg seem like a certified genius

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    Solid contribution Dwai. Really don't know what we'd do without your hot takes. Can't quite remember a single topic you've ever added anything to. Surely there must be one.

    Nice page of who's who of PFA's right wing cunts fellating each other, but to surprise to none they can't come up with single coherent argument.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Solid contribution Dwai. Really don't know what we'd do without your hot takes. Can't quite remember a single topic you've ever added anything to. Surely there must be one.

    Nice page of who's who of PFA's right wing cunts fellating each other, but to surprise to none they can't come up with single coherent argument.
    nice blog faggot

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    Guy in St Louis faces off with shot gun or automatic against group of people who looked ready to rape and pillage his home.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Interesting hmm... Not one of those looters” threw anything or got in his face to try and intimidate??
    I wonder why?... 👍 Good for him, if you don’t arm yourself you can’t protect yourself or your family when a mob comes to rob and beat you for no reason. I for one choose to have options 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIGHTYACE View Post
    Interesting hmm... Not one of those looters” threw anything or got in his face to try and intimidate??
    I wonder why?...
    Because they were on their way to protest outside the Mayors house down the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MIGHTYACE View Post
    Interesting hmm... Not one of those looters” threw anything or got in his face to try and intimidate??
    I wonder why?...
    Because they were on their way to protest outside the Mayors house down the street.
    So this wasn't a gated community and they weren't trespassing? I read that they tore down a gate

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