Anyone want to shop at Target in Minneapolis today? (George Floyd police brutality death)

[duped_samaritan]

The color of most of the victims is the same as it always is. Same as the color of most of the victims of a hurricane or a pandemic also.

Millions of people believe that systemic racism is the reason that black people are more likely to live in poverty, less likely to have access to healthcare or receive a good education which makes them less likely to provide a stable family environment to raise their children which leads to more crime.

They think this movement will change some of that and do a ton of long term good.

I know you don't agree with them, but if they're right, the temporary spike in crime would be well worth it.

lol in 40 years it's gotten worse and worse, you think blacks suddenly want to be better? god you're clueless, they love the anarchy and police hesitation, they love committing crimes they hate working, being fathers, it won't magically change, i say we give them a state and let all the bad n-words move there and they kill themselves off. America will be so much better with the black people that get off their ass and work hard to provide for their families and without the gangster fatherless n-words who's mom's drain the welfare system and ask for more.

come off it with your bullshit

I appreciate you aren't pretending to be pretending to be racist anymore.

[dwai]

lol in 40 years it's gotten worse and worse, you think blacks suddenly want to be better? god you're clueless, they love the anarchy and police hesitation, they love committing crimes they hate working, being fathers, it won't magically change, i say we give them a state and let all the bad n-words move there and they kill themselves off. America will be so much better with the black people that get off their ass and work hard to provide for their families and without the gangster fatherless n-words who's mom's drain the welfare system and ask for more.

come off it with your bullshit

I appreciate you aren't pretending to be pretending to be racist anymore.

everyone is racist, time to grow up and join the real world

[dwai]

I have nothing against black people, they work and provide for their families like you should, there are as many white n-words as black, as many Mexicans and whatever else. I think you know the difference

[duped_samaritan]

I appreciate you aren't pretending to be pretending to be racist anymore.

everyone is racist, time to grow up and join the real world

Imagine how much more racist everyone would be if people never protested though.

[dwai]

everyone is racist, time to grow up and join the real world

Imagine how much more racist everyone would be if people never protested though.

it makes people hate them more

[duped_samaritan]

Imagine how much more racist everyone would be if people never protested though.

it makes people hate them more

Why do they get to ride the front of the bus and sit and eat at the same restaurants as white people?

 

because they protested

[dwai]

it makes people hate them more

Why do they get to ride the front of the bus and sit and eat at the same restaurants as white people?

 

because they protested

yeah but these n-words are rioting and getting nothing done but white people virtue signaling, most blacks don't care for black lives matter cause they're smart enough to see thru the bullshit apparently you're not. quite sad.

[duped_samaritan]

Why do they get to ride the front of the bus and sit and eat at the same restaurants as white people?

 

because they protested

yeah but these n-words are rioting and getting nothing done but white people virtue signaling, most blacks don't care for black lives matter cause they're smart enough to see thru the bullshit apparently you're not. quite sad.

Calling out virtue signaling all the time is basically just virtue signaling.

[dwai]

yeah but these n-words are rioting and getting nothing done but white people virtue signaling, most blacks don't care for black lives matter cause they're smart enough to see thru the bullshit apparently you're not. quite sad.

Calling out virtue signaling all the time is basically just virtue signaling.

o

[gimmick]

Basically impossible to get a concealed carry permit for NYC.

Pull a gun without one and there's a good chance you'll do a year or more in prison.

Shootings in NY are going nuts right now though - it's hot, people are angry and tensions are high.

Black lives only matter if they're murdered by white people, apparently. Democrats refuse to revisit policies which clearly result in lots of extra black deaths. In general, Democrats are really, really, really bad with crime and punishment. Whenever elections are referendums on crime, Republicans kick ass (see 1994 as a good example of this).

Murder is up in most American cities.

Is there large scale confusion why a black anti-racist protest movement against police brutality is focused in anti-racism and police brutality related to black people? Sort of how Jewish advocacy groups focus on advocating Jews.

[dwai]

Black lives only matter if they're murdered by white people, apparently. Democrats refuse to revisit policies which clearly result in lots of extra black deaths. In general, Democrats are really, really, really bad with crime and punishment. Whenever elections are referendums on crime, Republicans kick ass (see 1994 as a good example of this).

Murder is up in most American cities.

Is there large scale confusion why a black anti-racist protest movement against police brutality is focused in anti-racism and police brutality related to black people? Sort of how Jewish advocacy groups focus on advocating Jews.

wowww
so let's defund the police

[MIGHTYACE]

What I don’t understand is why no one has a gun in these videos.

You hear about record gun sales. Are they still in their original packaging?

Basically impossible to get a concealed carry permit for NYC.

Pull a gun without one and there's a good chance you'll do a year or more in prison.

Shootings in NY are going nuts right now though - it's hot, people are angry and tensions are high.

It won’t change until people start taking action and defending themselves, if you notice it took several mins before anybody did anything to that scumbag who tried playing the role of a victim as soon as firefighters showed up.

[MIGHTYACE]

Basically impossible to get a concealed carry permit for NYC.

Pull a gun without one and there's a good chance you'll do a year or more in prison.

Shootings in NY are going nuts right now though - it's hot, people are angry and tensions are high.

Believe its 7 years for an unlicensed firearm. Even if someone breaks into your house and you use it in self defense you csn still be fucked

The Law is fucked! if I have to defend myself using my Gun I’m putting at least two in the chest of the thug” and I’m not sticking around to explain the situation fuck that, these thugs have all these politicians scared stiff” and they don’t mind hanging a Law abiding citizens out to dry.

[MIGHTYACE]

go to :50

Lol” real tuff guy only reason he is talking like that is because he knows cops are terrified to do anything! or not only will they get fired but probably put in jail. It’s a damn joke!! We need to get these scared pussy politicians out of office.

[Dan Druff]

Black lives only matter if they're murdered by white people, apparently. Democrats refuse to revisit policies which clearly result in lots of extra black deaths. In general, Democrats are really, really, really bad with crime and punishment. Whenever elections are referendums on crime, Republicans kick ass (see 1994 as a good example of this).

Murder is up in most American cities.

Is there large scale confusion why a black anti-racist protest movement against police brutality is focused in anti-racism and police brutality related to black people? Sort of how Jewish advocacy groups focus on advocating Jews.

Murder is up in other Democratic-run cities, yes. But the spike is worse in some cities than others. This coincides with the cashless bail system in NY (which has one of the worst spikes in shootings), as well as the COVID-19-related release of violent criminals in all of these places.

So gimmick, if you were thousands of times more likely to die from a violent criminal in your community murdering you than the police murdering you, which problem would you say should be a priority to take care of?

Somehow Democrats believe that racist police are the primary source of murder and unjustified assault against black people, yet that accounts for less than 0.1% of all such violent crime against black people.

Nobody wants to talk about the horrible murder rate in mostly-black neighborhoods, committed by career criminals with an existing long violent history -- guys who should have been locked away a long time ago.

Democrats call it "mass incarceration" to imprison any more than a proportionate population percentage of black people (regardless of how much crime they actually commit), so they will absolutely never advocate longer sentences for these criminals.

The key to saving thousands of black lives per year lies in putting away violent criminals for longer, but the left won't do that. The left doesn't want any reform which punishes anyone besides Conservative Whitey.

[Dan Druff]

Of course it's easy for gimmick to sit there in his low-crime northern European country and act cavalier about the violent crime issue in the US, because it has zero effect on him and his country.

When you get to sit in your flat 3,500 miles away from the US, of course it's easy to just take the wokest position and not worry about the real-world consequences.

[big dick]

would be cool if someone knelt on that piece of shit for 10 or 20 minutes

[Dan Druff]

The reasons the shootings are happening are:

1) Cashless bail system in NYC which began in November. Supposedly only for "non-violent" crimes, but that turned out to be BS. For example, a crazy anti-Semitic black woman kept beating up orthodox Jewish women on the street, got arrested, and was released immediately due to the cashless bail law. Guess what she went back out and did right away?

2) Idiotic release of violent criminals from prison due to COVID-19 threat, including young and violent ones.

3) It's illegal in NYC to do much proactive policing these days, even before the George Floyd thing.


Shootings went up sharply in early January (before the coronavirus, obviously), and have just gotten worse in the past 6 months.

Guess the color of most of the victims?

Black lives only matter if they're murdered by white people, apparently. Democrats refuse to revisit policies which clearly result in lots of extra black deaths. In general, Democrats are really, really, really bad with crime and punishment. Whenever elections are referendums on crime, Republicans kick ass (see 1994 as a good example of this).

The color of most of the victims is the same as it always is. Same as the color of most of the victims of a hurricane or a pandemic also.

Millions of people believe that systemic racism is the reason that black people are more likely to live in poverty, less likely to have access to healthcare or receive a good education which makes them less likely to provide a stable family environment to raise their children which leads to more crime.

They think this movement will change some of that and do a ton of long term good.

I know you don't agree with them, but if they're right, the temporary spike in crime would be well worth it.

This is such a case of mental gymnastics in order to avoid directly confronting the sad truth of the problem.

Even if "systemic racism" really did exist as you say, there's no simple fix or reform which can change it overnight. Eliminating racism occurs via a change in attitude, as well as a change in discriminatory law.

Encouraging society to be colorblind and for parents to teach their children that race doesn't matter is the way to reduce or eliminate racism long term. Note that I said RACE DOESN'T MATTER, not that you should be teaching your kids to feel guilty for their white privilege. You should teach them to judge everyone based upon their actions, and not their skin color.

Legally or systemically, racism can only be eliminated by reversing overt racist laws (this was already done in the 1960s), and by passing laws to punish overt discrimination (such as clear cases of housing or employment discrimination).

Anything beyond that gets extremely nebulous, because it focuses upon racial outcomes and statistics to draw conclusions of victimization which might be (and often are) false.

I'll give you a simple example. Jews are disproportionately underrepresented in professional athletics in the US. Why is that? Is there systemic anti-Semitism in the athletic community which purposely excludes Jews from professional sports? Or is it possible that Jewish families might not lead their athletic children toward sports careers? Or is it possible that there are just fewer Jewish people with elite athletic skills? Or is it possible it's both factors and a few others combined?

Regardless, I think we can all agree that there's no widespread conspiracy to keep Jews out of sports, despite our lack of numbers there.

This sort of discussion can be applied to everything where you look at statistics. People are different. Some is genetic. Some is upbringing. Some is from the community where we grow up. Some is a product of seemingly random events.

Crime is much higher in black communities in the US. You can't simply blame that on poverty. There are poor white communities with a fraction of the violent crime rate.

There could be several reasons for this. A big one is the lack of fatherless homes, which can't be blamed on any kind of racism. I know from going to school with mostly white kids and Asians that the kids without a male figure in the home tended to be the troublemakers, so I can only imagine a community where most of them are like that. Some of it is probably a general glorification of violence and gang culture in these communities. Some of it is probably from lousy schools (which is more due to incompetence than lack of funding). Some of it is due to a lack of proactive policing, where the bad apples are able to more easily terrorize the community and influence the on-the-fence young people.

It's a very complex matter.

To blame this on "systemic racism" is absurd. To believe that lighter policing, resulting in even more murders in these communities, is somehow going to do these people a favor, is also absurd.

I'll let you in on a little secret: Black people don't enjoy living in shitholes. The more ambitious ones have the goal of getting out of the ghetto and into a more peaceful segment of society.

In fact, you should take a look at the interesting history of the California cities of Lancaster and Palmdale. Once small towns, these exploded in size in the 1980s and 1990s due to people moving out there to get away from the violent crime and gangs in Los Angeles. People weren't moving to the desert because they were fleeing systemic racism. They were fleeing gang violence and neighborhoods decimated by crime. Unfortunately, after enough families fleed from the inner city to Lancaster and Palmdale, there were enough bad apples again to form their own gangs, and suddenly these formerly safe desert towns had their own crime problem.

"The temporary spike in crime would be well worth it" is such an ignorant white leftist thing to say. Of course you can say that. You don't need to live among the neighborhoods with the "temporary spike in crime", where you won't be able to call the police because they've had drastic budget cuts in favor of lol social work.

BTW, they tried the social work replacing law enforcement solution in the 1960s and beyond. It was a horrendous failure, with crime rates continuing to rise, before peaking in 1992 (at which point stronger policing and mandatory minimum sentencing started to occur) . Why will it work now? Because woke college kids say so?

[gimmick]

Of course it's easy for gimmick to sit there in his low-crime northern European country and act cavalier about the violent crime issue in the US, because it has zero effect on him and his country.

When you get to sit in your flat 3,500 miles away from the US, of course it's easy to just take the wokest position and not worry about the real-world consequences.

Yea that must be it. I didn't realize you were fighting in the trenches. All this time i'm thinking you're about as far from any violence as i am. Incidentally what is the murder rate where you live now?

Oh and my wokest opinion today was that murder is up in most large cities in America. Most of them are democrat led, but it's also up in few of those places that were dumb enough to vote a republican to almost any office.

[gimmick]

Murder is up in most American cities.

Is there large scale confusion why a black anti-racist protest movement against police brutality is focused in anti-racism and police brutality related to black people? Sort of how Jewish advocacy groups focus on advocating Jews.

Murder is up in other Democratic-run cities, yes. But the spike is worse in some cities than others. This coincides with the cashless bail system in NY (which has one of the worst spikes in shootings), as well as the COVID-19-related release of violent criminals in all of these places.

So gimmick, if you were thousands of times more likely to die from a violent criminal in your community murdering you than the police murdering you, which problem would you say should be a priority to take care of?

Somehow Democrats believe that racist police are the primary source of murder and unjustified assault against black people, yet that accounts for less than 0.1% of all such violent crime against black people.

Nobody wants to talk about the horrible murder rate in mostly-black neighborhoods, committed by career criminals with an existing long violent history -- guys who should have been locked away a long time ago.

Democrats call it "mass incarceration" to imprison any more than a proportionate population percentage of black people (regardless of how much crime they actually commit), so they will absolutely never advocate longer sentences for these criminals.

The key to saving thousands of black lives per year lies in putting away violent criminals for longer, but the left won't do that. The left doesn't want any reform which punishes anyone besides Conservative Whitey.

Before covid murders were down in NY. Should we attribute that to reform? They were at the end of June down 20% from 10 years ago and almost 80% from 27 years ago. Should we also attribute that to reform?