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    The next American Civil War is one gunshot away in Michigan right now


     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

    If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.

     
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    Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

    If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.
    That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

    Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

    These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.
    In fairness to the red states they tried it once, and the Blue States fought a war that killed over 600,000 to stop them. I think the elites that run the blue states find the red states much more useful than you give credit for.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

    If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.
    That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

    Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

    These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.
    Well, the DC snipers were black, and that didn't move the needle much. I think the US as a society has a higher tolerance for rogue individuals (of any race) than we would for a real armed black militia that was getting into armed showdowns at state houses.

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    What is Michigan? It’s not ever going to be a red state permanently. The white trash are riled up about now, no doubt.

    They’ve been played perfectly by corporate interests who are expert at manipulating the stupid.

    Trump can’t be gone soon enough. He has toyed with dangerous language and unstable people the past 3 years. Now a real crisis happens and they are ready to snap.

    That trash isn’t generally even the brokest of people either. It’s rarely economic. It’s their gun fetish and lizard brain paranoia.

    They’re riled up here in Ohio also with a Republican governor.

    Almost the whole country is ran by Republicans from the top down to local governments, and yet these idiots still think they’re being threatened.

     
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    There is exactly zero chance Trump doesnt tweet his support to the militiatards and then mysteriously roll back the comment once the dow sinks 2000 points in an hour.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

    Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

    These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.
    Well, the DC snipers were black, and that didn't move the needle much. I think the US as a society has a higher tolerance for rogue individuals (of any race) than we would for a real armed black militia that was getting into armed showdowns at state houses.
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.
    In fairness to the red states they tried it once, and the Blue States fought a war that killed over 600,000 to stop them. I think the elites that run the blue states find the red states much more useful than you give credit for.
    No question we'd all be far stronger and better off together but it might be too dysfunctional to save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    What is Michigan? It’s not ever going to be a red state permanently. The white trash are riled up about now, no doubt.

    They’ve been played perfectly by corporate interests who are expert at manipulating the stupid.

    Trump can’t be gone soon enough. He has toyed with dangerous language and unstable people the past 3 years. Now a real crisis happens and they are ready to snap.

    That trash isn’t generally even the brokest of people either. It’s rarely economic. It’s their gun fetish and lizard brain paranoia.

    They’re riled up here in Ohio also with a Republican governor.

    Almost the whole country is ran by Republicans from the top down to local governments, and yet these idiots still think they’re being threatened.
    There's been a lot of exposure about how these groups are astroturf. Useful idiots. Also bots and psyops from China and Russia trying to destabilize America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    There is exactly zero chance Trump doesnt tweet his support to the militiatards and then mysteriously roll back the comment once the dow sinks 2000 points in an hour.
    There are good people on both sides.

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    Armed Rebellion?

    All i've seen is 3 pot bellied neck-beards with semi-auto rifles....the rest of the protest armed with smart phones, just a few hundred there tops

    btw, this touches on why almost all state capitals are in smaller cities away from the population centers---the state legislatures don't want it made easy for mass protests
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Someone who isn’t a tech retard like myself, click on the link from the guy with 3 posts in 8 years and fill us in.

     
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    Written by Jeff Stone
    Apr 24, 2020 | CYBERSCOOP

    More evidence that a group of conservative political activists is operating a network of websites meant to inflame pandemic-related tension in the U.S. and solicit donations has been uncovered by a Seattle-based cybersecurity company.

    Threat intelligence firm DomainTools released research Friday indicating that pro-gun activist Aaron Dorr appears to be using widely available software to operate dozens of websites, many of which include “reopen” in the URL.

    DomainTools researchers have conducted a technical examination of “reopen” sites — like “ReopenMN” and “ReopenWI” — to determine just how consolidated the sites are, despite the appearance that they exist as standalone entities. The sites are registered to local gun advocacy groups and utilize One Click Politics, a digital organizing service that allows a single person to manage dozens of websites, run email promotion and collect money.

    The network starts with Dorr’s personal website on top, at least 13 gun rights coalition groups on the next level down, and many dozens of state “reopen” sites beneath that, according to DomainTools.

    “All of the [domains] in our report are tied back to Dorr,” said senior security researcher Chad Anderson.

    Many of the sites also rely on the same SSL certificates, a tool meant to protect websites which also provides investigators with clues about who is operating a URL. In this case, it appears that domain administrators used Dorr’s personal website to register many of the certificates.

    “SSL certificates tie these domains together,” said Anderson. “And because they’re all on the same server, it means they’re at least operated by Dorr’s group, or they have a partnership running through them.”

    The stated goal of the reopen websites is to end “excessive” quarantine orders enacted by state leaders in response to the coronavirus pandemic. In fact, many of the sites were registered by gun advocacy groups connected to Dorr and his three brothers, who have described the National Rifle Association’s stance on gun regulation as “too compromising.”

    The Dorr brothers’ efforts only are the latest example of “astroturfing,” in which coordinated political efforts are meant to look like organic grassroots movements. It’s a similar technique to the tactics that Russia’s Internet Research Agency used to fabricate and then amplify protests around hot-button political issues before the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    Aaron Dorr did not respond to a request for comment from CyberScoop. His brother, Ben Dorr, told the Philadelphia Inquirer that reports about their activities were “fake news.”

    Media outlets, including the Washington Post and KrebsOnSecurity, have previously reported on the Dorr brothers’ internet presence, and their efforts to promote the anti-quarantine protests that occurred throughout the U.S. in the past week. NBC News reported this week that the Dorr brothers operated the five largest Facebook pages dedicated to the anti-isolation demonstrations.

    The Facebook pages had more than 200,000 followers. The protests they helped magnify have resulted in international news coverage and support from leading Republican lawmakers, including President Donald Trump. The Dorr brothers also have attracted scrutiny for their political activities, including the revocation of the tax-exempt status for at least one of their nonprofit organizations.

    In the days since the brothers’ efforts have made headlines, they also appeared to have updated the donations sections on at least two gun websites, AmericanFirearmsCoalition[.]org and MissouriFirearmsCoalition[.]org, according to DomainTools. Those sites, which rely on similar website layouts, now direct donations to a page on Anadot, a donation collection platform. Prior to the Facebook promotions and anti-quarantine protests, those sites relied on an inactive Anadot portal, researchers said.

    “They wanted to make sure that donation function works,” Anderson said.
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    astroturfing, coronavirus, DomainTools, Dorr brothers
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    Awesome article John. Thanks for reposting. Basically for profit MLM style propaganda sites. Feels exactly right.

    If you start a militia and that guy stars three more militias, you’ll get a cut of...Amway meets John Bitch Society meets NRA with a splash of foreign agitators.
    Last edited by BCR; 04-30-2020 at 02:06 PM.

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    FPS_Russia?

    Does the fact he made 2 posts without the word Jew in there once rule FPS out?

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    Reminds me of that call center guy I met years ago. Told me how Trumps attorney Sekulow would get that atheist guy to file lawsuits to get one nation under God and Ten Commandments off federal building walls and Sekulow would go on AM radio outraged.

    Form some tax exempt legal defense fund and then hire a call center to raise money from both groups. The left wasn’t worth much. Not a ton of atheist money is thrown at stuff like that. Sekulow had the cash cow end with mailing lists full of religious donors. All a big con and guys like O’Reilly would later write books about culture wars that were largely manufactured nonsense. Pretty impressive grift actually.

     
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