The next American Civil War is one gunshot away in Michigan right now

[sonatine]

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[ErickAA]

Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.

[Walter Sobchak]

Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.

That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.

[ErickAA]

Well, if nothing else this is certainly going to test the theory that there is nothing white people with guns can do that will cause us to seriously challenge the 2nd amendment.

If those guys were black I would expect the 2nd amendment to be repealed tomorrow.

That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.

Well, the DC snipers were black, and that didn't move the needle much. I think the US as a society has a higher tolerance for rogue individuals (of any race) than we would for a real armed black militia that was getting into armed showdowns at state houses.

[Walter Sobchak]

That already happened. The test was Sandy Hook. If a couple dozen dead kids doesn't do it, nothing will.

Those poor parents are being harrassed by Alex Jones and QAnon and their followers to this very day.

These people are terrorists. They're savages. They don't deserve America.

Well, the DC snipers were black, and that didn't move the needle much. I think the US as a society has a higher tolerance for rogue individuals (of any race) than we would for a real armed black militia that was getting into armed showdowns at state houses.

Good point

[Walter Sobchak]

Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.

[ErickAA]

Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.

In fairness to the red states they tried it once, and the Blue States fought a war that killed over 600,000 to stop them. I think the elites that run the blue states find the red states much more useful than you give credit for.

[Walter Sobchak]

Why not just let the red states and blue states go their separate ways? Almost every blue state is a net contributor to the federal treasury and almost every red state is a net recipient from the federal treasury. Now they don't want to give any back because of the deficit even though they blew the roof off with a trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest. Fuck them. The blue states can live in a civilized society, and the red states can try their luck without the blue states subsidizing them. We can still trade with one another. All the gun-loving fools in blue states can move to the new red country and anyone who wants to live in a civilized society can move to the new blue country.

In fairness to the red states they tried it once, and the Blue States fought a war that killed over 600,000 to stop them. I think the elites that run the blue states find the red states much more useful than you give credit for.

No question we'd all be far stronger and better off together but it might be too dysfunctional to save.

[BCR]

What is Michigan? It’s not ever going to be a red state permanently. The white trash are riled up about now, no doubt.

They’ve been played perfectly by corporate interests who are expert at manipulating the stupid.

Trump can’t be gone soon enough. He has toyed with dangerous language and unstable people the past 3 years. Now a real crisis happens and they are ready to snap.

That trash isn’t generally even the brokest of people either. It’s rarely economic. It’s their gun fetish and lizard brain paranoia.

They’re riled up here in Ohio also with a Republican governor.

Almost the whole country is ran by Republicans from the top down to local governments, and yet these idiots still think they’re being threatened.

[sonatine]

There is exactly zero chance Trump doesnt tweet his support to the militiatards and then mysteriously roll back the comment once the dow sinks 2000 points in an hour.

[Walter Sobchak]

There is exactly zero chance Trump doesnt tweet his support to the militiatards and then mysteriously roll back the comment once the dow sinks 2000 points in an hour.

There are good people on both sides.

[nightmarefish]

There is exactly zero chance Trump doesnt tweet his support to the militiatards and then mysteriously roll back the comment once the dow sinks 2000 points in an hour.

There are good people on both sides.

You do realize Antifa was fighting against white supremacists thus if you think he was referring to the white supremacists as good people then he was also calling Antifa good people? The other explanation would be the good people he was talking about were the other peaceful protesters that were there that day from both sides. That wouldn’t be much of a story though now would it? So We’ll go with Trump believes Antifa and white supremists are a bunch of good people instead.

[Walter Sobchak]

What is Michigan? It’s not ever going to be a red state permanently. The white trash are riled up about now, no doubt.

They’ve been played perfectly by corporate interests who are expert at manipulating the stupid.

Trump can’t be gone soon enough. He has toyed with dangerous language and unstable people the past 3 years. Now a real crisis happens and they are ready to snap.

That trash isn’t generally even the brokest of people either. It’s rarely economic. It’s their gun fetish and lizard brain paranoia.

They’re riled up here in Ohio also with a Republican governor.

Almost the whole country is ran by Republicans from the top down to local governments, and yet these idiots still think they’re being threatened.

There's been a lot of exposure about how these groups are astroturf. Useful idiots. Also bots and psyops from China and Russia trying to destabilize America.

[ftpjesus]

What is Michigan? It’s not ever going to be a red state permanently. The white trash are riled up about now, no doubt.

They’ve been played perfectly by corporate interests who are expert at manipulating the stupid.

Trump can’t be gone soon enough. He has toyed with dangerous language and unstable people the past 3 years. Now a real crisis happens and they are ready to snap.

That trash isn’t generally even the brokest of people either. It’s rarely economic. It’s their gun fetish and lizard brain paranoia.

They’re riled up here in Ohio also with a Republican governor.

Almost the whole country is ran by Republicans from the top down to local governments, and yet these idiots still think they’re being threatened.

Just a friendly reminder. The GOP has both sides of the Michigan Legislature which last held elections in 2018 oh and Trump won MI in 2016. You were saying???