What’s the fix for the chips?
I actually worry about live poker now. To me, it wasn’t exactly thriving. Tables had been down. Casinos always coveting the floor space. They are going to find a fix for everything else before most places find a fix for poker. Something like commerce will, but any regional casinos or small rooms are going to not invest a single $ into a game they view as a loss leader to keep recs happy with their hobby before they go to the pits
There isn't one yet.Originally Posted by BCR
And yes, that's a big problem. Sadly, live poker can only be "safe", if you can call it that, if they have this set up PLUS electronic chips, like on those digital poker machines you sometimes find on cruise ships.
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As you said, this is too expensive to set up for the amount of rake these machines will bring in (even with the casino saving money on dealers), so I imagine live poker will just die if this is the only viable "safe" solution.
They actually tried these in brick-and-mortar rooms in the late 2000s and early 2010s, and it was decided they weren't cost effective. The savings on the dealers wasn't worth it, and the players didn't really enjoy them very much.
They really only came to make sense on cruise ships, where it's a lot more big of a deal to staff and house a full time poker dealer, rather than at a birck-and-mortar where you just pay them minimum wage and let them subsist on tips. Also, the cruise ships bring in a much higher rake (laughably 10%, no cap).
Your image didn’t come through for me, but I searched the link and found an image. I don’t think I’d mind playing on one. More hands, eliminating tipping would be nice at a poker table if you play a lot. Particularly at the low limits most places spread where it’s hard to really be profitable anyway.
Still, it’s old dudes who wouldn’t want that, and they look expensive, would still need partitions to keep people germs away from next to you. You’re right, it won’t happen. I don’t see how casinos or many things happen again. It’s simply too hard to maintain distance in so many jobs and environments. How do you attend things, fly, work any job where you’re next to people, use common equipment. I’m starting to think if you need to work and live you’re going to simply have to roll the dice as scary as that is. I think we are just going to say fuck this at some point relatively soon. We can’t afford two years of shutdowns and there isn’t any magic bullet to kill this thing quickly from appearances.
I would fade being miserable for two weeks right now if you guaranteed me no ventilator or death, just straight misery and exhaustion. Im sure everyone would to get this over and done with It’s the chance of it turning for the worst that’s the mentally brutal part. Otherwise it’s just a really severe and long illness that lasts two weeks. It’s that fear of it progressing that fucks with you.
The future of gambling:
The future of gambling:
Here's what's going to happen.
In a year or two things will be back to normal.
Live poker was a niche before, and it'll be a niche later. It'll be popular in Vegas, LA and other large metro areas where card rooms are allowed. In smaller places it will fade out as it was already doing.
I am a rec player and I far prefer live poker. I will still take the time to go play, when I have the time to play. And will visit Vegas 1-2x/year because I enjoy Vegas and I enjoy playing poker there.
The virus is disruptive to our lives right now, and we need to take it seriously, but like the 1918 flu pandemic, we will overcome it.
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the Daly family was supposed to go to Ireland and the UK this summer. At this point I think it’s fair to say that idea is out the window. I had said last week as a “replacement” we would do like we did back after 9/11 and do some travel to some heavy hit areas. Probably pass on NY but we were thinking New Orleans and Las Vegas.......
After seeing the OP I’m not sure Vegas is still on that list.
Here is how Wynn proposes to open. I'd guess it will be similar everywhere. Page 5 starts to describe the guest experience. Lots to digest but worth it in my opinion if you are a casino goer. Enjoy.
https://www.visitwynn.com/documents/...ealth-Plan.pdf
If you haven't been to Canada and the border opens up it might be worth considering. The American dollar is even stronger against the cad so the trip would be relatively cheap. Vancouver, Okanagan and places throughout the Rocky Mountains are all beautiful.
Agree. I've been to lots of Canada since 2014, and enjoyed all of the trips, especially in the later 2010s when CAD was worth about $0.75 US. Now it's worth 71c, so even better for Americans.If you haven't been to Canada and the border opens up it might be worth considering. The American dollar is even stronger against the cad so the trip would be relatively cheap. Vancouver, Okanagan and places throughout the Rocky Mountains are all beautiful.
Among the trips I've done:
Vancouver/Victoria island area
Eastern BC and Alberta, including Banff, Jasper, and Waterton National Parks, as well as Mt Robson and Frazer Valley
Toronto and Niagara Falls
Quebec and Montreal
PEI/Nova Scotia/New Brunswick
I've also been to the parts of BC and Yukon near Alaska, but you only go to those if you're on an Alaskan cruise or road trip.
All are affordable nowadays with the weaker CAD, and I can give you some tips if you want, from the point of view of a fellow American.
The worst thing about traveling in Canada is the bed situation, as many hotels oddly use double (full) beds instead of queens, and actually expect two adults to fit in them. This is especially common at small hotels in smaller towns and national park areas. I found it to be a pain in the ass in the booking process, since I'm way too tall for that. Oh, and Air Canada sucks balls, as do all other Canadian airlines.
Washing hands, sanitizer, and not touching your nose/face is basically the fix for chips. According to the experts, even when ingested it will not make you sick. It has to get in your air passages.
Have a trip to Ireland booked for mid-June that is going to have to be rescheduled as well. Sucks.
Still holding on to hope for our two beach trips later this summer.
The "experts" are always changing their minds on stuff like this. There is no real consensus yet about how people are catching it -- just that it's very contagious.Washing hands, sanitizer, and not touching your nose/face is basically the fix for chips. According to the experts, even when ingested it will not make you sick. It has to get in your air passages.
You're correct that not touching your face is the solution to avoid getting it from surfaces like chips, but this is impossible for most human beings to do (without knowing it) over more than just a very short period of time. When I did grocery shopping (before recently quitting that and getting delivery), I would keep my left hand in my pockets unless I was grabbing an item, and my right hand on the cart. If I wasn't pushing the cart, I had them both in my pockets. I think this worked, but there's no way I could have pulled it off sitting at a poker table for hours.
I'd rather have corona than play craps or blackjack alone.
Time is RIPE to get nationwide online poker back in business, if Trump can't do it, who can?
Yeah haven't really given this thought - is there any movement toward legalization?
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Half the point of wearing a mask is that it remind you not to touch your face. But in general there seems to be a consensus forming that this doesn't spread through surfaces very easily at all. This is an airborne, so touching dirty chips is likely not dangerous.Washing hands, sanitizer, and not touching your nose/face is basically the fix for chips. According to the experts, even when ingested it will not make you sick. It has to get in your air passages.
No. Forget about national legislation in an election year. 0.0 chance of anything happening. The federal government isn't hurting from loss of casino revenue. Certain municipalities are getting crushed. This is a local issue and any legislation will happen at the state level (and even that doesn't seem to be happening).Yeah haven't really given this thought - is there any movement toward legalization?
Hell let them run software like Enterra has. Let people play geofenced within the hotel (you have to be logged into their WiFi network or something to play on the site maybe even an online network among MGM properties and Ceasers of their own each.There isn't one yet.
And yes, that's a big problem. Sadly, live poker can only be "safe", if you can call it that, if they have this set up PLUS electronic chips, like on those digital poker machines you sometimes find on cruise ships.
https://miro.medium.com/max/778/1*7-...BvtCBxWqA.jpeg
As you said, this is too expensive to set up for the amount of rake these machines will bring in (even with the casino saving money on dealers), so I imagine live poker will just die if this is the only viable "safe" solution.
They actually tried these in brick-and-mortar rooms in the late 2000s and early 2010s, and it was decided they weren't cost effective. The savings on the dealers wasn't worth it, and the players didn't really enjoy them very much.
They really only came to make sense on cruise ships, where it's a lot more big of a deal to staff and house a full time poker dealer, rather than at a birck-and-mortar where you just pay them minimum wage and let them subsist on tips. Also, the cruise ships bring in a much higher rake (laughably 10%, no cap).
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