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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
    This thread will become even more entertaining than the CM/KD videos once the people on this forum start to realize that Kevin Davis is EVERY BIT AS PSYCHOPATHIC as Morgenstern or Chris Mitchell.

    T-minus 3 days or so before the poker community chews KD up and spits him out, just like the blackjack community did last time around. (This ain’t our first rodeo with this idiot). I know multiple people who are admins on blackjack the discord and other forums, who’s ONLY responsibility is to ban Kevin Davis whenever a new one of his fake accounts pops up and starts reeking havoc.

    I can’t stand asshole scammers like these guys KD goes after. But let’s make one thing very clear. Kevin Davis gives ZERO FUCKS about people being scammed out of their money. He gives ZERO FUCKS about CM’s baby. He is making these videos because he is desperate for attention and wants to look like a hero. He picks targets that are so easy, I mean seriously any person with an elementary understanding of gambling can recognize these idiots as scammers.

    If he had any sort of advanced knowledge of advantage play like he claims, he would understand that APs would not make money if it were not for dumb asses juiced up with confidence who walk into casinos and blow their cash. Remember people, a fool and his money are soon parted. Trying to stop this phenomenon would be like trying to stop natural evolution. What KD is doing is the poker equivalent of informing a big fish that he is playing with pros and that he should stop. I’m no poker player but I’m gonna assume that this would piss off real professionals.

    To JeffDime... you seem like a nice guy who means well. Please consider this alternative perspective before giving KD any more pats on the back. He’s fucking crazy.
    Just to be clear let’s set the personal attack on KD aside for a second. Are you arguing that marks deserve to lose their money. That these people being ripped off by Christopher Mitchell is preferable to the gambling ecosystem for you? Mitchell is a plus and the people he rips off is good for you? I will grant you these people are gullible af we all know that. But does that mean it’s best to sit on the sidelines and not try to educate them and let them be ripped off by Mitchell? There is no question there is a deterrent and people have been educated. Is that bad? Please explain your point.

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    If you’re dumb enough to send Chris Mitchell your money, then by definition you deserve it. I absolutely hate to see senior citizens getting scammed so I will consider them to be an exception. But as advantage players, you can’t take money from a casino that first hasn’t been lost by some poor schmuck. That’s just the way gambling works.

    As an example of why CM really isn’t making any difference... let’s say Joe Gambler has a 5k bankroll. Instead of 5k going to the casino, now 4500 will get dumped at the casino and 500 will go to CM. Idiot is still out 5k no matter way you slice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
    If you’re dumb enough to send Chris Mitchell your money, then by definition you deserve it. I absolutely hate to see senior citizens getting scammed so I will consider them to be an exception. But as advantage players, you can’t take money from a casino that first hasn’t been lost by some poor schmuck. That’s just the way gambling works.
    I don’t see how Mitchell getting a cut from those people makes any difference to the ability for an AP to make money. Not seeing why shining awareness on his scam makes a lick a of difference for you. Plenty of money still to be lost by many to the casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
    If you’re dumb enough to send Chris Mitchell your money, then by definition you deserve it. I absolutely hate to see senior citizens getting scammed so I will consider them to be an exception. But as advantage players, you can’t take money from a casino that first hasn’t been lost by some poor schmuck. That’s just the way gambling works.

    As an example of why CM really isn’t making any difference... let’s say Joe Gambler has a 5k bankroll. Instead of 5k going to the casino, now 4500 will get dumped at the casino and 500 will go to CM. Idiot is still out 5k no matter way you slice it.
    So you would be against getting his channel shutdown? We should shut this thread down? Let him do his thing? What’s your endgame here man just get to it. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    If you’re dumb enough to send Chris Mitchell your money, then by definition you deserve it. I absolutely hate to see senior citizens getting scammed so I will consider them to be an exception. But as advantage players, you can’t take money from a casino that first hasn’t been lost by some poor schmuck. That’s just the way gambling works.
    I don’t see how Mitchell getting a cut from those people makes any difference to the ability for an AP to make money. Not seeing why shining awareness on his scam makes a lick a of difference for you. Plenty of money still to be lost by many to the casinos.
    You’re right it doesn’t, which is what I said at the end of my first post. The major point I wanted to make was about KD and his true motives, just setting the record straight for people who are just getting introduced to KD and don’t know his history. My point that you’re bringing up was secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    If you’re dumb enough to send Chris Mitchell your money, then by definition you deserve it. I absolutely hate to see senior citizens getting scammed so I will consider them to be an exception. But as advantage players, you can’t take money from a casino that first hasn’t been lost by some poor schmuck. That’s just the way gambling works.

    As an example of why CM really isn’t making any difference... let’s say Joe Gambler has a 5k bankroll. Instead of 5k going to the casino, now 4500 will get dumped at the casino and 500 will go to CM. Idiot is still out 5k no matter way you slice it.
    So you would be against getting his channel shutdown? We should shut this thread down? Let him do his thing? What’s your endgame here man just get to it. Thanks.
    Buddy, I am not only FOR getting CMs channel shut down, but I would also not mind a video of him being pelted with paint balls for an hour straight. And I would never want this thread shut down. It is what brought me to this site and to Dan’s radio show, which I consider to be fantastic all around, despite not being a poker player myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
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    So you would be against getting his channel shutdown? We should shut this thread down? Let him do his thing? What’s your endgame here man just get to it. Thanks.
    Buddy, I am not only FOR getting CMs channel shut down, but I would also not mind a video of him being pelted with paint balls for an hour straight. And I would never want this thread shut down. It is what brought me to this site and to Dan’s radio show, which I consider to be fantastic all around, despite not being a poker player myself.
    So let’s be honest this was about attacking KD?

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    I just don’t see the point of you guys pissing off KD and attacking him with such strong language. Like him or not his videos and what he does is part of the story. We can either have him feel comfortable to share his shit with us or not. I don’t see how your personal feelings about the guy change anything other than pissing him off more. What is the harm? Seems personal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    I just don’t see the point of you guys pissing off KD and attacking him with such strong language. Like him or not his videos and what he does is part of the story. We can either have him feel comfortable to share his shit with us or not. I don’t see how your personal feelings about the guy change anything other than pissing him off more. What is the harm? Seems personal to me.
    You have no idea of the history. It’s not personal between me and KD. It’s personal between every member of the professional blackjack community, and KD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
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    I just don’t see the point of you guys pissing off KD and attacking him with such strong language. Like him or not his videos and what he does is part of the story. We can either have him feel comfortable to share his shit with us or not. I don’t see how your personal feelings about the guy change anything other than pissing him off more. What is the harm? Seems personal to me.
    You have no idea of the history. It’s not personal between me and KD. It’s personal between every member of the professional blackjack community, and KD.
    I have more background knowledge than you think. Obviously we handle things differently. Regardless of the background your first post was way over the top imho. I would react more favorably to some background and well constructed argument than basically taking a flame thrower to the guy. It’s your right I’m just telling you we clearly handle things differently.

    To compare him with Morgenstern is unfortunate. This is a guy who beats women, robs banks etc that’s just unfair. BTW this thread has nothing to do with poker. The poker community isn’t chewing him up and spitting him out it has nothing to do with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    You have no idea of the history. It’s not personal between me and KD. It’s personal between every member of the professional blackjack community, and KD.
    I have more background knowledge than you think. Obviously we handle things differently. Regardless of the background your first post was way over the top imho. I would react more favorably to some background and well constructed argument than basically taking a flame thrower to the guy. It’s your right I’m just telling you we clearly handle things differently.

    To compare him with Morgenstern is unfortunate. This is a guy who beats women, robs banks etc that’s just unfair. BTW this thread has nothing to do with poker. The poker community isn’t chewing him up and spitting him out it has nothing to do with this thread.
    Oh, they will. I gave it 3 days but who knows when it will be. KD has actually been extremely tame with this forum because he doesn’t want to get banished from another AP community. He won’t be able to help himself though. Just watch.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post

    I have more background knowledge than you think. Obviously we handle things differently. Regardless of the background your first post was way over the top imho. I would react more favorably to some background and well constructed argument than basically taking a flame thrower to the guy. It’s your right I’m just telling you we clearly handle things differently.

    To compare him with Morgenstern is unfortunate. This is a guy who beats women, robs banks etc that’s just unfair. BTW this thread has nothing to do with poker. The poker community isn’t chewing him up and spitting him out it has nothing to do with this thread.
    Oh, they will. I gave it 3 days but who knows when it will be. KD has actually been extremely tame with this forum because he doesn’t want to get banished from another AP community. He won’t be able to help himself though. Just watch.
    This is not an AP forum it’s for all kinds of shit. Sure there are APs here but it’s not a prerequisite. This section is for scammers like Mitchell. KD been part of the forum for over a month and things got heated from time to time but we managed keeping this thread somewhat light. I don’t see how coming in and pouring gasoline on it helped anyone.

    Let’s be honest here. You just joined this forum and your first post you compare a guy to to a career felon in Morgenstern & Christopher Mitchell saying he’s just as bad. Coming in a little hot no? What’s the real motivation?
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    Last thing then I got to bed. Whatever you may think of KD or his motives he has exposed CM. He had people video CM at the casino in San Diego and get us the truth. Who the fuck else is going to do that? I don’t see him harming anyone except for people’s scams. Instead of coming on this thread and saying “I heard this on the radio and enjoyed the show and contribute something,” your first post is a viscous attack on a forum member. I’ll ask again why? Is he hurting you or me?

    As far as me “patting him on the back” I did so because of his investigative work and videos because he is deserving. I have also at times told him to take it down a notch when I think he is not getting something right. Call me a softie if you want but that’s just who I am.

    Does doing something partly for attention make it any less righteous? Prosecutors do it all the time they take the cases that will engage the public and shine light on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    Buddy, I am not only FOR getting CMs channel shut down, but I would also not mind a video of him being pelted with paint balls for an hour straight. And I would never want this thread shut down. It is what brought me to this site and to Dan’s radio show, which I consider to be fantastic all around, despite not being a poker player myself.
    So let’s be honest this was about attacking KD?
    Of course it was, just another internet idiot, but I'm use to all of it. Like I said, it's not the first time. I'm sure he'll reach out and team up with CM. Pops in out of blue, so Jeff, unless that guy wants to meet me face to face, please don't waste your time entertaining him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    This thread will become even more entertaining than the CM/KD videos once the people on this forum start to realize that Kevin Davis is EVERY BIT AS PSYCHOPATHIC as Morgenstern or Chris Mitchell.

    T-minus 3 days or so before the poker community chews KD up and spits him out, just like the blackjack community did last time around. (This ain’t our first rodeo with this idiot). I know multiple people who are admins on blackjack the discord and other forums, who’s ONLY responsibility is to ban Kevin Davis whenever a new one of his fake accounts pops up and starts reeking havoc.

    I can’t stand asshole scammers like these guys KD goes after. But let’s make one thing very clear. Kevin Davis gives ZERO FUCKS about people being scammed out of their money. He gives ZERO FUCKS about CM’s baby. He is making these videos because he is desperate for attention and wants to look like a hero. He picks targets that are so easy, I mean seriously any person with an elementary understanding of gambling can recognize these idiots as scammers.

    If he had any sort of advanced knowledge of advantage play like he claims, he would understand that APs would not make money if it were not for dumb asses juiced up with confidence who walk into casinos and blow their cash. Remember people, a fool and his money are soon parted. Trying to stop this phenomenon would be like trying to stop natural evolution. What KD is doing is the poker equivalent of informing a big fish that he is playing with pros and that he should stop. I’m no poker player but I’m gonna assume that this would piss off real professionals.

    To JeffDime... you seem like a nice guy who means well. Please consider this alternative perspective before giving KD any more pats on the back. He’s fucking crazy.
    Just to be clear let’s set the personal attack on KD aside for a second. Are you arguing that marks deserve to lose their money. That these people being ripped off by Christopher Mitchell is preferable to the gambling ecosystem for you? Mitchell is a plus and the people he rips off is good for you? I will grant you these people are gullible af we all know that. But does that mean it’s best to sit on the sidelines and not try to educate them and let them be ripped off by Mitchell? There is no question there is a deterrent and people have been educated. Is that bad? Please explain your point.
    That's EXACTLY what he's saying. Only comes in here talking shit about people deserve to be scammed, KD's crazy etc, etc..... yet wont tell that to the face of the woman MM's raped, beaten, people he's scammed for thousands......Then saying I don't care about the people I'm helping yada yada yada.... Same shit with MM happened, one minute people were behind me, then they turned on me and tried hindering my efforts. Jeff, think about what he's saying, cause I've already dealt with it. Guys like that try to hinder my efforts, yet will never stop me, it will only fuel CM and his followers just like it did MM. He'll reach out to CM what, cause I guarantee he'll read his post on his next video. So great job Dough Boy (name fits your fat ass) typical little pussy


    Dan, was nice while it lasted, this thread will now be fueling CM, so peace out my man. You got my # so reach out from time to time! I'm outty

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
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    I just don’t see the point of you guys pissing off KD and attacking him with such strong language. Like him or not his videos and what he does is part of the story. We can either have him feel comfortable to share his shit with us or not. I don’t see how your personal feelings about the guy change anything other than pissing him off more. What is the harm? Seems personal to me.
    You have no idea of the history. It’s not personal between me and KD. It’s personal between every member of the professional blackjack community, and KD.

    ROFLMFAO, No, that's what a few morons feel. Your forum would be dead if my name wasn't coming out of it there. That's why Colin Jones, whose regarded as the Messiah of Blackjack, well loved is now a personal friend of mine. The same Colin Jones who'd get death threats EVERY DAY by MM and his decibels. The same Colin Jones who literally would get called 50 times a day by MM and his decibels harassing him. The same Colin Jones I helped personally get MM's location, that the FBI couldn't even find, so he could get his restraining order served that was partial reason he fled country. The same Colin Jones who MM was trying to pay someone to sit outside his home, wait for him to leave, so they can go and hurt his wife and children. the same Colin Jones whose thanked me numerous times, in which my response was always "no thanks needed". The same Colin Jones whose done Five 2 hour Q & A's in my forum, via voice chat, to help our beginner and amateur players develop. The same Colin Jones, who donated a FREE year long membership the winner of a card counting contest we developed for our members. Oh, which happened to be the first free membership he ever gave to someone per the email I have. The same Colin Jones who sent me his book Free and another to the winner of a drawing we had in our forum. We have a few of Colin's bootcamp grads in my forum, funny how they don't feel the same way your dieing forum feels. In fact, they same through PM's in the BJA that many members of BJA support my efforts, especially one Colin Jones whom CM called out and trashed his bootcamp.
    Shall I keep going or have I dumped enough dirt on your grave while making you look retarded while they lowered it.

    However, I didn't need to respond for that to happen, your 6 posts proved your mentality. Then of course you have Donkey Boy jumping in, since the guy was never active here until this thread was started.
    So tell your "forum" the next time they send a spokesman speaking on their behalf, send one who didn't quit middle school and still has a 5th grade mentally when it comes to serious life matters. I bet you're probably one of those who took advantage of the looting and snagged yourself a free flat screen and laptop like the other low life's in this country who ALL deserve to be shot and killed on the spot, every city and every state, SHOT DEAD.

    So again, Jeff, Dan & those whose supported my TEAM'S efforts in here, we highly have appreciated it. But no way in hell will I be associated with a thread, let alone a forum, where my PAST haters/hinders of efforts are coming in to fuel CM, Brunson FX, Jason Sample & whomever. I've been down that road once, I have plenty of platforms to continue on. After the Hoosier incident, the tone of the thread's shifted and that's fine, not my forum to monitor. However, it will now be passed over to CM supporters from here on out and one that talks behind my back, knowing damn well they'd never say this shit to my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Mc View Post
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    You have no idea of the history. It’s not personal between me and KD. It’s personal between every member of the professional blackjack community, and KD.

    ROFLMFAO, No, that's what a few morons feel. Your forum would be dead if my name wasn't coming out of it there. That's why Colin Jones, whose regarded as the Messiah of Blackjack, well loved is now a personal friend of mine. The same Colin Jones who'd get death threats EVERY DAY by MM and his decibels. The same Colin Jones who literally would get called 50 times a day by MM and his decibels harassing him. The same Colin Jones I helped personally get MM's location, that the FBI couldn't even find, so he could get his restraining order served that was partial reason he fled country. The same Colin Jones who MM was trying to pay someone to sit outside his home, wait for him to leave, so they can go and hurt his wife and children. the same Colin Jones whose thanked me numerous times, in which my response was always "no thanks needed". The same Colin Jones whose done Five 2 hour Q & A's in my forum, via voice chat, to help our beginner and amateur players develop. The same Colin Jones, who donated a FREE year long membership the winner of a card counting contest we developed for our members. Oh, which happened to be the first free membership he ever gave to someone per the email I have. The same Colin Jones who sent me his book Free and another to the winner of a drawing we had in our forum. We have a few of Colin's bootcamp grads in my forum, funny how they don't feel the same way your dieing forum feels. In fact, they same through PM's in the BJA that many members of BJA support my efforts, especially one Colin Jones whom CM called out and trashed his bootcamp.
    Shall I keep going or have I dumped enough dirt on your grave while making you look retarded while they lowered it.

    However, I didn't need to respond for that to happen, your 6 posts proved your mentality. Then of course you have Donkey Boy jumping in, since the guy was never active here until this thread was started.
    So tell your "forum" the next time they send a spokesman speaking on their behalf, send one who didn't quit middle school and still has a 5th grade mentally when it comes to serious life matters. I bet you're probably one of those who took advantage of the looting and snagged yourself a free flat screen and laptop like the other low life's in this country who ALL deserve to be shot and killed on the spot, every city and every state, SHOT DEAD.

    So again, Jeff, Dan & those whose supported my TEAM'S efforts in here, we highly have appreciated it. But no way in hell will I be associated with a thread, let alone a forum, where my PAST haters/hinders of efforts are coming in to fuel CM, Brunson FX, Jason Sample & whomever. I've been down that road once, I have plenty of platforms to continue on. After the Hoosier incident, the tone of the thread's shifted and that's fine, not my forum to monitor. However, it will now be passed over to CM supporters from here on out and one that talks behind my back, knowing damn well they'd never say this shit to my face.
    KD I understand where you are coming from. This is Dan’s forum he and only he makes the determination. I did all I could while the jerk he was still around to show he was just an agitator. I would ban him but Druff has got to see it and make the determination. I engaged him so it would just not be one post in order for him to make that determination. It was 4 AM and I only slept 3 hours since so please understand I did my best to show he was just here to attack you. As for Donkey Killa I wish the dude would chill the fuck out. I haven’t been here long but I know he has banned his share of members and is not shy to do so.

    I can say without any doubt that Druff is not going to let this thread turn into some kind of de-facto Pro CM trolls taking over. At the same time he is getting desperate so there may be some who try to get on a disparage you and that simply means your winning. He even had to put half prop money in the counter for his giveaway.

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    KD I just want to make clear that I was asking him questions to try and extract more information from him. Now going back I am certain it was CM with the help of confederates. The questions I was asking were trying to get him to tip his hand and ultimately he didn’t even have a valid reason for posting other than to antagonize. The time all matches up from right after he finished his livestream and watched your video then he posted. Some things were said to make him seem like an actual pro blackjack player but I’m convinced the author was not. I think the biggest giveaway was mentioning the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    KD I just want to make clear that I was asking him questions to try and extract more information from him. Now going back I am certain it was CM with the help of confederates. The questions I was asking were trying to get him to tip his hand and ultimately he didn’t even have a valid reason for posting other than to antagonize. The time all matches up from right after he finished his livestream and watched your video then he posted. Some things were said to make him seem like an actual pro blackjack player but I’m convinced the author was not. I think the biggest giveaway was mentioning the child.
    Stop defend this guy. you deserve alot more credit, this phychopath has given you nothing. You come off as a dad diffending his autistic boy.
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