Where is this truth you speak of? The only one whose the same as CM its you, a whole lot of chirping and not a shred of proof to back it up...... I mean the accusation that people were employed on other forums just to ban my fake accounts? thats more ridiculous the CM thinking I'm Lee Bradbury. Where are all these forums Im banned from, been asking you to name them since to popped your virgin self in here. Just like true CM form, you tap dance around them. I already named blackjack the forum im banned from, so is a ton of other well known AP's. All talk with no proof, shows youre just a retarded goof
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Ahhhh, plenty of proof but wont supply it out of fear? ROFLMFAO...... You're definitely getting your money's worth on that $2500 you spent getting his one on one coaching to be a liar
Baccarat degen, you're an absolute nobody, so go start the bash kd thread where you, virgin doughboy and donkey "todd is god" can have a threesome in there with each other
BaccaratDegen: You are a ex Druggie NUTJOB. Get off the steroids it might help you think clearly. People dont want you here .... from what David says none of the forums want you around LOL
Ahhh spoken like another true virgin, still living at mom's home..... Man, you can really tell your audience by the prepubescent posts........ oh, don't forget the "From what David says none of the forums want you around, then does the elementary school LOL trying to validate as what he said was true and funny at same time..... David's accusation of me is about as real as CM's $50,000 he holds up in videos
Now Doughboy admitted he fears me, knowing if we ever met, David would not be slaying this goliath
Jeff im sorry for getting off track from CM.
KD cant control his roid rage. The drugs have kept him from growing out of a 19 year olds mind frame.
We are back on track this is a thread about CM.
Just two quick things to note from the T Jay without Silent Bob video, currently the last one in the vlog channel.
The thumbnail image never appears in the video, so it is Clearly staged. Which would indicate multiple takes and photo ops were done for the "interview" and when CM asks Jay how much he made total, his eyes wander and he forgets his line. Only for Bitchell to tell him "$18,000" and him to say "Yea, yea $18,000."
Jay mentions he went to Reno to play Baccarat and claims he won there. However, in the comments someone asks where did he go to play in Reno and CM responds "No Idea", yet T Jay himself responds with his real last name Etcheverry. He and his father can be found on Facebook under John Etcheverry and TJ Etcheverry, so whomever can get the dirt on them, go for it!!!
I don't know David, but in my conversations with him, he seems to be a legit advantage player, and not one who ever would have paid CM anything for coaching.
Mr. Horney, welcome to PFA. I deleted your 3 messed up posts, and left your 3 intended ones! Looks like you're getting the hang of it!
Anyway, let's quit the inner bickering now and just focus on CM.
Hilarious that he posts that giant cigar pic, not realizing what people will think. When you have gay porn in your past and you're trying to run away from that part of your life, you should stay away from the big cigar pics. Talk about lack of self-awareness!
I think PositiveVariance is mostly correct about CM's testimonials. It's a mixture of real, exaggerated, and a little outright fake, but he probably isn't directly paying people to lie.
People are also naturally bad at acting. You can usually tell a false testimonial -- even in written form, but especially in spoken form. Most of the testimonials in CM's video seem semi-legit, though there's some instances where CM directs the conversation and they just nod along, which of course is more suspect.
Does this mean I believe CM is winning people tons of money? As I've said before, fuck no.
CM can employ various tricks to get these testimonials:
1) Get them to praise the system before they're done gambling for the day. This way if things go south, you have these people legitimately on video claiming they won a lot of money, even though they lost overall.
2) Tell the lie for them, and get them to nod along. Explain beforehand that you need to exaggerate a bit in order to counteract the "jealous haters" telling lies about you. However, most people won't nod along to a blatant lie. For example, if they just lost $5k with CM, they're unlikely to go on camera and claim they won.
3) Get friends or fellow scammers to outright lie for you. Kevin is correct that CM doesn't seem to have any legitimate friends. However, he does seem to have met some fellow scammers from his various schemes over time, so these people can pose as "customers" and say whatever you want them to say.
In general, I believe he's just doing selective editing. When people win, he quickly has them do a testimonial. When they lose, of course he doesn't. If the session is a disaster, you never hear about it at all. Whenever videos seemingly have no conclusion or goodbye, it's almost always because things went south. This happens often because CM and his customers play way too big for their bankroll, so the risk of ruin is extremely high.
Last week
Haha 2 different people emailed reporting this.
As much as I hate to hear about innocent suckers losing, I do smile inside when I read that CM lost a fortune in the casino. I prefer it when he's alone though, like Sycuan.
Morning guys. Hope everyone is doing well. Great posts as usual and let’s still do our best not to attack each other. Let’s attack Christopher Mitchell. I haven’t got a chance to watch KD’s video but I will check it out soon. You and Jeff Dime do some good work. From what seen from the TJ video, you can tell that crap is scripted to some point. HVAC guys make good money. Why quit a job that is constantly needed for something that is highly volatile and uncertainty? That’s why I’m not buying the story. CM is such garbage and he needs to be arrested for promoting and supporting this type of behavior. I read on here that he’s been losing his ass off at the Bellagio. If that keeps occurring, I feel that the casinos won’t care about CM and his losing clients continue to come in lose their money (If he’s losing 10k and his clients are losing 10k, it’s a win for the casino). That’s the real problem from my perspective and it’s really sad. Money over everything. Even with the casinos, they just want customers. I’ve been in casinos where no temperature checks are done, hand sanitizers are not being restocked, rooms and machines aren’t being cleaned properly and the capacity levels are consistently over what the mandates requires. Sorry for rambling on but I feel that the casinos need to be accountable for their ways and CM needs to held accountable too. We just need to address the prospective clients so that can stop supporting CM and his stupid gambling strategies. Don’t worry Chrissy, the bubble is going to burst soon. You may have to resume your Colt career after this falls apart.
Fuck you CM
Elmo out for now. Be safe everyone.
Thanks Druff.
And I would never partake in “inner bickering” cause that would insinuate that KD is a part of something. He’s an outsider, everywhere.
In fact, you all can add KD to your list of scammers. I hear he’s trying to sell his ploppy sports picks for $14.99 on his forum. Just think of all the poor saps getting robbed! Someone should make a YouTube channel disproving his stragedies.
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Todd, you say you don't know Jacob, I mean David, yet you believed every lie that came out of his mouth in your private conversations. I'm guessing those conversations were all about me like 2 nerds upset at the school bully who shoved their asses in lockers every day. Since his pussy ass can't supply the proof to back up what he says, how about you finally show some proof as to all these forums I'm banned from. Surely Todd, with your many conversations with Jacob, I mean David, you know and can say which forums these are? Because I already supplied some proof and can supply A HELL OF ALOT MORE that the one discord full of pussies came to me BEGGING AND I MEAN BEGGGINGGGGGGGGG FOR MY HELP in dealing with Morgenstern. He was threatening them, their families, their kids etc etc. So I joined their forum to help them. However, when shit hit the fan and morgenstern ramped up his attacks, they blamed me and turned on me. Then Morgenstern's rat was in that forum who campaigned hard to make me look like the cancer. The forum owner KNEW this but was worried his identity would get leaked to Morgenstern. So he kicked me out, knowing there was an FBI investigation that had started. They begged me to help, I got Morgenstern off their asses and directed at me and they turned on me? hmmmmmmm, Grade A organic pussies. That forum owner info was later given to me by smallcapgrowth, a well know AP and once great friend of Ryan's. You see Todd, when you are helping as many people as Ive helped/help karma rewards me in many forms I could keep going, but will end off with I have all the dm's, all the emails all the recorded calls as my proof...and about 4 videos in archive detailing this. What you have Todd is one of those Pussies who followed me in here from a event from 2 years ago trying/been trying to smear my name for months. Well Todd, your ignorant ass bit on it and showed your true colors fuckwad! So again Todd, surely you can give the names of all these forums Im supposedly banned from. I have/had all mt T's crossed and I's dotted, as I always do, so wheres yours?
As for Jacob, I mean David? He already admitted he fears me, which he should.....thats game, set and match in my book
Rick and Stacy's friend Osora's back, the believable 4th time theyve done testimonials. Funny how hes been booked everyday for months with clients yet hes been alone more days then ones with clients
Yep, the last 3 videos of his “wins” reek of lying desperation by inflating numbers. We know he lost at least 20K from eye witness reports. He now has to make up 5 figure wins to convince himself and his idiotic sheep followers that his BS system works. The noose is getting tighter folks.
3 quick things I noticed after re-watching.
1) He seems to include the House Commission as part of the "tips" he gives to dealers. I'm willing to be he thinks that commission goes right into the dealer's pockets, so in his warped mind those are tips that he is actually giving to dealers and not the house!(I'm sure he tips something small, but he probably adds the commission into it so he can claim he tips several hundred dollars)
2) He's going to casinos where he either hasn't been to in a while or has never been to the High Limit room such as Stratosphere & Red Rock. (I'm sure there may be an OLD video of him going to these places, but it's clearly been a while). Which means, he can do his buy-in and film chips act to misrepresent his winnings without fear of reprisal from the pit boss.
3) He's doing the tour guide thing more than usual as if he was encouraged to by a pit boss and speaking about Baccarat commissions, which he NEVER did before in any "winning" videos. He always conveniently left that part out and I'm sure his suckers only found out after playing the Banker bet like he does. This must be due to customers complaining that they were never told about it or the House said he has to disclose the banker commission fee if he is to continue making his videos in the casino.
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