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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Mc View Post
    I wasn't even paying attention to this clown but was hearing what he was saying. Then when I got wind of him trying to find out who and where I was IRL, I decided to leave 1 comment on his video and shut him down. Just took 1 comment to do so, LOL
    Dudes back to martingaling his 26 bucks a day. Peculiar dude, let me tell you. Some days it’s real and some days it’s simulated. I rather be water boarded.

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    I am not going to make it a thing posting Dempsey vids here. I don’t even want to give him any exposure. He is a CM apologist and I went and took a quick look at this video today. He is doing a “30 Day Challenge” betting $1 units. He counts both the days he goes and plays on the machine at the casino and the days at home using play money. It is all really boring and ridiculous.

    Lucky for him he was playing fake money today. His goal is to make $26 (Units Per Day). At 7:30 he starts an 8 roll losing roulette losing streak costing him $471 imaginary dollars. This would wipe out 18 days of $26 profit. This will be the only vid of his I will ever post. How is that Marty working for you Dempsey? Must sting a lot less when it was fake money. I will give him one thing though...this was not a livestream and he didn’t have to post it. Kind of ruins the whole 30 Day challenge though. It’s only about a minute of time.


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    EDIT: Sorry guys, this is kinda long and all over the place, but I decided to leave it up.


    It can be very hard to watch more than a few minutes of Dempsey's videos. As Jeff said, he didn't have to post this losing session, so I do give him credit for that.

    I really have tried to follow these Martingale players thought process. They like to promote short term results. Their idea of a winning strategy seems to be if it wins "DAY BY DAY ". In Dempsey's video where he introduced his 30 day trial, where he was discussing the believers vs. non-believers in the Marty he said, "I have a feeling were going to be right some of the time, and they will be right some of the time". He doesn't grasp, the only thing that matters is what number is larger in the long term either wins or losses. If he is honest about his results, in the end he will see losses are greater than wins.

    Brian I know you read this. The martingale is much like running a business. You will have your days where you consistently bring in "profit". Sometime during that month, you will have to pay your "overhead" on that business. When you pay that overhead, for most businesses it greatly lowers what you brought in during the month. In gambling with the martingale, instead of paying your overhead, you are paying when you bust out with a multiple step Marty loss. With a business, the time you pay your overhead is fairly consistent. In gambling with the Marty, it is not consistent. With a business at the end of the year, if everything goes well you are left with a "profit", With the Martingale you are left with nothing, Very likely a very negative number.

    A good example is Independent Truck Drivers AKA "Owner Operators". I hear many of them say things such as "I made $300K last year!" Many of them don't get the concept of Income minus expenses. The point to be made is in business we have income minus expenses. In gambling we have wins minus losses. I almost feel embarrassed explaining such a simple concept. people who Martingale don't grasp this. In one of Dempsey's videos, he was talking about how someone can afford a bigger house with the extra money from the Martingale system. What about when the Martingale bomb goes off? What about those months?

    Even though it is a losing system, if you insist on using the Martingale strategy, you should only be playing Baccarat. You should absolutely avoid Roulette and Blackjack. With Baccarat you are paid even money bets, it is close to being a "50/50" game. Even though a good blackjack game can have less than a 1% house edge, the actual percentage to win any given hand is about 46% (this is ignoring ties, considering ties it is about 43%). This is greatly lower than Baccarat. In Blackjack, you are winning fewer hands than in Baccarat, but can have a lower house edge. This is because in blackjack all wins are not paid at 1:1, and there are advantage situations throughout the game where the player can wager additional money. You have BJ's that pay 3:2. Double downs, and splitting create opportunities that create advantages for the player and pay greater than the original bet when the hand started. All these additional opportunities in BJ is what brings the house edge closer to an even game. I know CM doesn't double, split, or care if the game is 3:2 or 6:5. I see Dempsey doesn't Split, not sure if he doubles or not. As we have shown CM's strategy is over a 7% disadvantage. With a chance of winning only 46% of hands in Blackjack, doing the Martingale is an absolute disaster. This is one reason why you don't see CM Martingaling in Blackjack anymore.

    This Forum has many Advantage Players aka "Pro Gamblers". Not a single one will support CM or his Strategies. So from players that actually know the math and the techniques used to win, CM can not get a single supporter! The only people that "support" him know absolutely nothing about gambling. CM just reverts back to calling us "HATERS", and the haters want to be like him and steal his content and subscribers for profit. Christopher if someone is going to go after someone, they are going to go after someone who actually has something to take!

    1. You have just over 5K subs. They would go after someone will Million's of Subscribers.
    2. They would go after someone that acutally has the support of the experts in their field. You can not get a single expert to verify/support you.
    3. You are broke. They will go after someone that actually has something.
    4. No one is using "Your name" for financial gain. They would pursue someone that has a good name.
    5. Depending on when you "Search" your name on Youtube, at times 3 of the top 5 have the word "scammer" in the title. You cant even get your own name at the top of the list.

    Back to Martingale...
    The bottom line is, if you going to spend large amounts of time trying to beat the casino, start with techniques that have been proven to work. Virtually every game in the casino has been beaten at some time or another. These include, (Just a partial list) Blackjack, Baccarat, Poker, Slot Machines, Roulette, Craps, sports wagering, State Lotteries, Lottery Tickets, (yes, lottery tickets!). As with most techniques you have to be VERY disciplined. If you insist on being a Advantage Player AKA "Professional Gambler" , You most likely want to start with either Blackjack or Poker. Many of the others have had their loopholes that make it beatable closed.



    On a side not. Christopher, obviously your intention is to make as much money as possible. You have clearly failed at this. You are a bad scammer. Two of the best scammers in the gambling field are right there in Vegas, maybe you can take notes from them. They are VEGAS DAVE AND STEVE STEVENS

     
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    Tour Guide Christopher Mitchell has $4300 to his name.


    Thanks for letting us know just how much money you have left Chrissy. We appreciate you putting it so close to camera at 15:05. Pathetic....


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    I think its pretty clear he lost his ass when Robert Hesley came into town. Other than what was said in the room the night of his cocaine rant, not a single video of Robert, William, or the other gentleman that came for a 1 on 1 after that night in the room. We know he will use absolutely every opportunity he has to film a testimonial. He couldn't get any footage of the 3?

    Jeff, as you said CM will never understand how comps work or maybe he knows his believers are to dumb to catch on?

    Awhile back when he was telling us how Stacy got her hair done at Bellagio for $800 and it was Comped. The very first thing that came to mind was how he lost roughly $3200 to get that "free" service.

    So Christopher, every time you show something you got comped by the Casino, we know roughly how much you LOST to get that luxury. You look absolutely silly. Especially when you say, "I get this room because of my status here at Bellagio". That is a correct statement, but it is not that status you think it is. It is your status as a LOSING PLAYER that gets you these items/services.

     
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    From the time of the live rant....I knew he was in trouble because in the live video we got a sense of how the players were doing.....so from here if they won for sure we would gotten a video/sales telethon type thing....but when we get the first penthouse video you know something was up.....then today we I saw the title of today's video it might of well been titled I lost 20k

    He's living the nightmare....I just picture the mood at those stupid filmed dinners/breakfast when the phone is off....I say phone because this high roller millionaire can't spring for a real camera and still uses duffle bags for luggage.....Just would love to hear stacey yelling at cm when he's not filming

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    Reptile is live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Reptile is live.
    It's a mystery....in the live he's got like 20k....so strange in the other video just showed the profit of 4300

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick2199 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Reptile is live.
    It's a mystery....in the live he's got like 20k....so strange in the other video just showed the profit of 4300
    Looks closer to 10K to me...

    But anyway, when you play as aggressive as he does, you will have swings of 10K or more on a regular basis. We never know what is fake and what is real.

    As KD said, it may be possible Stacy is letting him flash around her 401k money as a prop. On the other side its hard for me to believe CM would let Stacy control anything.


    Guess it was 13k
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    It is nice to see a couple of dudes hitting it off because they have something in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    Right! Who knows what else went on in that Penthouse Fountain View Suite. Are you ready, are you ready,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
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    RH is CM/SM. The account is at least -- that's how AH got encircled in all of this drama. The purpose in the RH and Willaim bff mention was to respond to the criticism on here that b/c CM never showed any of those folks again after the video in his suite, like he always does when he wins, that they were all pissed and left him. Now don't you see, they are besties b/c RH is a technological fiend.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    I think its pretty clear he lost his ass when Robert Hesley came into town. Other than what was said in the room the night of his cocaine rant, not a single video of Robert, William, or the other gentleman that came for a 1 on 1 after that night in the room. We know he will use absolutely every opportunity he has to film a testimonial. He couldn't get any footage of the 3?

    Jeff, as you said CM will never understand how comps work or maybe he knows his believers are to dumb to catch on?

    Awhile back when he was telling us how Stacy got her hair done at Bellagio for $800 and it was Comped. The very first thing that came to mind was how he lost roughly $3200 to get that "free" service.

    So Christopher, every time you show something you got comped by the Casino, we know roughly how much you LOST to get that luxury. You look absolutely silly. Especially when you say, "I get this room because of my status here at Bellagio". That is a correct statement, but it is not that status you think it is. It is your status as a LOSING PLAYER that gets you these items/services.
    Yeah, I think we can tell the winning days versus the losing days based upon whether or not we get a testimonial at the end.

    If we see a "beginning" and no end, we know what happened.

    The idiot would be booking far more winning sessions than losing sessions (which would be great for testimonials) if he just stuck to a smaller base bet, but he feels he has to justify these people spending $1000 on his coaching, so he can't be shooting for 3-figure wins for them.

    Of course, it's a -EV strategy either way, but he's just introducing a shitload of variance by Martingaling with such a high base bet, which also leads to a higher number of overall loss sessions.

    I'm still not even sure if he realizes that his strategies are actually -EV. Part of me thinks that he believes his own lies (other than the results and his net worth, of course).

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    CM is a very big international influencer

    https://arabicworld.club/watch/MeuZbjVd2Q240

    https://tv-india.com/c/NY6h_8ex0vLvRehO8MHr3A.html

    Maybe one of his biggest follower can send him a new outfit (size pudgy midget please)

    https://poshmark.com/closet/lenengrad7

     
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    Any former clients who stumble on this thread can email me at MrDimes77@gmail.com. If you watch my videos at all, I hope you can see that whatever you say to me is confidential. I will only share what we agreed to or nothing at all if you are uncomfortable going public. We have proven he is a fraud and I know it’s tough to come forward, but I can promise it will just be between you and I. If we agree with sharing details I will follow our agreement explicitly.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Yeah, I think we can tell the winning days versus the losing days based upon whether or not we get a testimonial at the end.

    If we see a "beginning" and no end, we know what happened.

    The idiot would be booking far more winning sessions than losing sessions (which would be great for testimonials) if he just stuck to a smaller base bet, but he feels he has to justify these people spending $1000 on his coaching, so he can't be shooting for 3-figure wins for them.

    Of course, it's a -EV strategy either way, but he's just introducing a shitload of variance by Martingaling with such a high base bet, which also leads to a higher number of overall loss sessions.

    I'm still not even sure if he realizes that his strategies are actually -EV. Part of me thinks that he believes his own lies (other than the results and his net worth, of course).
    I think they justify their lies as affirmations or “the power of words”. Just like Stacy talked about in that video about the power of words. CM also did a video about affirmations where he said all kinds of ridiculous shit while tossing around money, which he quickly took down.

    “Affirmations are positive statements that can help you to challenge and overcome self-sabotaging and negative thoughts. When you repeat them often, and believe in them, you can start to make positive changes. ... Self-affirmation may also help to mitigate the effects of stress”.

    CM is clearly conflating “positive statements” that can bring “positive change” to their lives with just blatant lies. To the extent he shows any kind of introspection and is self-aware he is a fraud, I would say it’s minimal. I think almost every single lie is justified as “doing the right thing” for their family to prosper. It’s a fucked up, twisted way of thinking, but I am pretty sure I am pretty close.

    As for him discovering a winning gambling system, I have no doubt his ignorant ass thinks he is the one to find the missing link to making the martingale work long term. I have heard from too many guys who think they have a winning system to believe that CM isn’t one of them. Of course, he will take the coaching money for insurance.
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    CM/SM has been using the Robert Hesley user name on Youtube for sometime (At least 4 months). You can see some of the comments he made as Robert Hesley in Post #979 of this thread. In one of KDs videos he showed how the real Robert Hesley Facebook account was created years ago. Another one created more recent with the same photos.

    If Robert Hesley, saw these comments on many different YouTube videos he would likely confront CM about it. He would naturally be very suspicious of him.


    I think unless CM post a video of William, RH, or the other guy, I think 2 things are very clear:

    1. They lost their asses on Cocaine night
    2. Robert Hesley and CM were not "Close" ( I think if they were, we would have got a fake testimonial in spite of the big loss)



    This is my theory (Just a theory)....
    I think William and/or the other guy that came for the 1 on 1 coaching is a friend of Robert Hesley. I haven't went back and double checked but I remember CM saying at least 2 of the 3 people (William, RH, other guy), are from Washington DC. It is very slim chance that at least 2 of the 3 people, maybe all 3 are from the same city by mere coincidence, without knowing one another. A city that is across the Country.


    I think its possible that either William or the other guy told Robert Hesley about CM. I think Robert Hesley may have emailed CM, but doesn't go as far as using any other social media or watch his YouTube videos. Possibly just takes the word of Willaim or the other guy that he is "legit". If CM was aware that Hesley didn't watch the videos, he may have created the burner YouTube account in Hesley's name knowing he would not see it, and knowing he would meet Hesley in the future and it may give him some creditability. But if shit hit the fan on cocaine night, he couldn't get the testimonial, but since he has the Hesley burner account he can button things up like others have mentioned. I think Washington DC is an important detail.

    Thoughts?
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    As far as the Penthouse Suite, without knowing his amount of play its hard to speculate. It would not surprise me if he went to his host and told them he has 3 to 5 people coming into town, and they are "At the same level of play" as him. I don't know if the comps are looser during this pandemic, but it seems that his Penthouse Suites are always on "Off Nights".

    It also wouldn't surprise me if CM has told his host he is a "Professional Gambler" and justifies his massive losses as "having to lose some for tax reasons".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    As far as the Penthouse Suite, without knowing his amount of play its hard to speculate. It would not surprise me if he went to his host and told them he has 3 to 5 people coming into town, and they are "At the same level of play" as him. I don't know if the comps are looser during this pandemic, but it seems that his Penthouse Suites are always on "Off Nights".

    It also wouldn't surprise me if CM has told his host he is a "Professional Gambler" and justifies his massive losses as "having to lose some for tax reasons".
    There are a lot of so-called "professional gamblers" who actually lose. They like to say that's what they do, the hosts nod along and pretend they believe it, and they reap nice commissions on these "winners".

    Infamous 2000s poker player "thyprez" (RIP) used to tell his Vegas hosts that he counts cards in blackjack. He was never backed off, and always comped well. Why? Because thyprez wasn't a winning player, and while he knew how to count cards, he totally lacked the discipline to do it correctly. The casinos knew this, so he was very welcome.

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