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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Looks like we’ve got some new exposers for old Kyle Prescott. KD showed a twitch stream from Ryyy last night, which had a dozen or so followers commenting live. Which means online and social media awareness of CM’s scamming is rising.


    And it isn’t just the angry ranters challenging CM to prove his bullshit strategies!



    This guy seems pretty well spoken and knowledgeable. He does offer and alternative point of view and warns people of the danger of using CM’s flawed system. Only minor gripe, he does NOT believe CM is a Scammer and says it is the fault of the buyer for getting cheated because they got what they paid for!
    I haven't watched this video, but I have watched other videos by this guy. He does make some valid arguments, however he has the same flawed thinking as Dempsey in saying he is NOT a scammer because he is giving you his service/product in exchange for payment, therefore his obligation was filled and is not a scam. The big problem with this is they are only looking at the payment for service/product aspect. They are not considering what led up to the transaction. By promising unattainable results and lying about your actual results as Chrissy does in order to get people to buy his bullshit product/service is a SCAM. That's like these scammers from India that remotely infect your computer with a virus then charge you to remove it. They are fulfilling their obligation to remove the virus for payment. Its the actions prior to that where the scam was created. Its an obvious scam. A scam can go far beyond just the final transaction for payment aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Looks like we’ve got some new exposers for old Kyle Prescott. KD showed a twitch stream from Ryyy last night, which had a dozen or so followers commenting live. Which means online and social media awareness of CM’s scamming is rising.


    And it isn’t just the angry ranters challenging CM to prove his bullshit strategies!



    This guy seems pretty well spoken and knowledgeable. He does offer and alternative point of view and warns people of the danger of using CM’s flawed system. Only minor gripe, he does NOT believe CM is a Scammer and says it is the fault of the buyer for getting cheated because they got what they paid for!
    It’s a fair point that the scam is not the sale of the service itself. The scam however is in the advertisement of how successful the service will be. The scam is the quoting of results that the seller managed to obtain. The scam is the notion that you can just quit your job and earn guaranteed money each day as your primary source of income.

    I think even CM is starting to see that the message of “quitting your job” needs to be toned down a bit. In a recent video he specifically says that he isn’t telling you to quit your job...but instead is saying to try things first as side income. Still the results he’s calling out are false...but he is likely trying to avoid litigation by stating that he never said you should quit your job over this.

     
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    This is just too good: He's now calling himself the Baccarat King.

     
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      Elmo: Chrissy has lost his mind.

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    Chrissy is a really queef queen in my opinion. Your day is coming douchebag and I’m not talking about Bob coming in your ass. You better have your assets together. Fuck you.

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    Keep drinking those Monsters and snorting that cocaine, Chrissy.
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    Was looking back on a couple of CMs videos tonight wherein he actually goes to various casinos and plays slots. One of them was an actual live stream. I noticed something interesting...despite him always stating how important it is to do this whenever gambling at the casino...HE DOESN’T PUT HIS PLAYERS CARD IN ANY OF THEM. Between the two videos he must have spent several hours playing slots on maybe 15 machines in various casinos and not once do you see him use the card. He does show himself putting cash into each of the machines though.

    So I’m thinking...he doesn’t want to use the card because a) maybe he doesn’t want the casino to know he was there or b) he doesn’t want you to see the card because then we will see that he doesn’t have high tier status from any of the casino groups. Seriously, he always calls out the Bellagio as a place he’s got all these comps built up and is a high roller. Wouldn’t you expect to see an MLife Noir card being used? After all...he’s a VIP. He has to be at that level? No? And at Caesar’s he’s surely at the 7 Stars level? Oh well...guess we aren’t going to see any of that. Hmmmmmm

     
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    You guys are basically correct.

    Selling a shit system can potentially leave you civilly liable, but if you're a broke-ass like CM, then you don't care about that because you have no salary to garnish and no assets to liquidate.

    CM types only fear criminal prosecution. Here the crime involves his promotion.

    Simply put, if you knowingly lie about the expected results of your product/system, or knowingly lie about your own results using it, and you use that as a marketing tool to sell your product/system, you are guilty of fraud.

    CM has committed wire fraud and other fraud-related crimes due to the following claims/actions, related to selling his system:

    1) Claiming he wins "99% of the time" in casinos, which is provably false (both mathematically, and with his actual results)

    2) Claiming he is a millionaire and became one by utilizing these strategies

    3) Claiming that his systems can lead you to financial independence

    4) Claiming that his systems are virtually guaranteed to allow you to effortlessly win, and quit your 9-to-5 job


    If arrested and charged with fraud/wire fraud, it could be easily proven in court that:

    1) CM does not win using these systems -- either in the medium term or the long term -- and has lost a lot of money overall during the time he's been promoting these systems

    2) His session winrate isn't "99%", even though Martingale does produce winning sessions far in excess of 50% because of its "small wins most of the time, huge losses occasionally" methodology. However, if you're not properly rolled for the limits you play (as he isn't, nor are most of his customers), even the Martingale system will cause a lot of losing sessions (and definitely losing overall).

    3) His actual income stream comes from people paying for his negative-value coaching, NOT casino winnings. Therefore, he is selling his service based upon completely fraudulent claims.

    4) Anyone following his systems will lose in the medium and long term, and often in the short term. His system is worthless, and has led many people to the poorhouse, while making nobody financially independent. (He could be asked in court to name a single person who became financially independent through his coaching, and then these people could be questioned. Zero chance he could produce even one.)


    This isn't a big time scam. It's a subsistence-level scam, where he scams $500 here, $1000 there, and $1500 somewhere else, so he can scrounge together money to keep up his gambling habit. That's the reason law enforcement hasn't been very interested. But if they were, it wouldn't be tough to convict him. All of the evidence is both on video and in his casino records.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Was looking back on a couple of CMs videos tonight wherein he actually goes to various casinos and plays slots. One of them was an actual live stream. I noticed something interesting...despite him always stating how important it is to do this whenever gambling at the casino...HE DOESN’T PUT HIS PLAYERS CARD IN ANY OF THEM. Between the two videos he must have spent several hours playing slots on maybe 15 machines in various casinos and not once do you see him use the card. He does show himself putting cash into each of the machines though.

    So I’m thinking...he doesn’t want to use the card because a) maybe he doesn’t want the casino to know he was there or b) he doesn’t want you to see the card because then we will see that he doesn’t have high tier status from any of the casino groups. Seriously, he always calls out the Bellagio as a place he’s got all these comps built up and is a high roller. Wouldn’t you expect to see an MLife Noir card being used? After all...he’s a VIP. He has to be at that level? No? And at Caesar’s he’s surely at the 7 Stars level? Oh well...guess we aren’t going to see any of that. Hmmmmmm
    Yeah there's obviously a reason here. Actually, it is a mistake to use your card for low limit slots if you're not going to play anything else that day (it drags down your average daily theoretical number), but I doubt Chrissy is smart or aware enough to know that.

    I think you're right -- either he doesn't want people to see how few tier credits he has, or he's not even supposed to be there (or at least not filming there).

    I will say that you're not going to easily reach Noir or Seven Stars playing baccarat, even if you're a fish like Chrissy. This is because there simply aren't enough hands being played at table games in order to accumulate points. You really need to play machines to get to the top card levels, because those hands/spins can be run super fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Was looking back on a couple of CMs videos tonight wherein he actually goes to various casinos and plays slots. One of them was an actual live stream. I noticed something interesting...despite him always stating how important it is to do this whenever gambling at the casino...HE DOESN’T PUT HIS PLAYERS CARD IN ANY OF THEM. Between the two videos he must have spent several hours playing slots on maybe 15 machines in various casinos and not once do you see him use the card. He does show himself putting cash into each of the machines though.

    So I’m thinking...he doesn’t want to use the card because a) maybe he doesn’t want the casino to know he was there or b) he doesn’t want you to see the card because then we will see that he doesn’t have high tier status from any of the casino groups. Seriously, he always calls out the Bellagio as a place he’s got all these comps built up and is a high roller. Wouldn’t you expect to see an MLife Noir card being used? After all...he’s a VIP. He has to be at that level? No? And at Caesar’s he’s surely at the 7 Stars level? Oh well...guess we aren’t going to see any of that. Hmmmmmm
    Yeah there's obviously a reason here. Actually, it is a mistake to use your card for low limit slots if you're not going to play anything else that day (it drags down your average daily theoretical number), but I doubt Chrissy is smart or aware enough to know that.

    I think you're right -- either he doesn't want people to see how few tier credits he has, or he's not even supposed to be there (or at least not filming there).

    I will say that you're not going to easily reach Noir or Seven Stars playing baccarat, even if you're a fish like Chrissy. This is because there simply aren't enough hands being played at table games in order to accumulate points. You really need to play machines to get to the top card levels, because those hands/spins can be run super fast.

    Agreed...Noir and Seven Stars are tough to hit....But our boy is a “VIP High Roller” who gets free suites and free flights any time he wants them in any casino anywhere in the world. Surely he should be at least a top tier Diamond at Caesars or Platinum with MLife.

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    Ladies and gentlemen....side bets are no longer “sucker side bets.” So sayeth our friend Christopher. He’s got it all figured out. The casinos never saw it coming.


     
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    So I watched Chrissy's new video and he's talking about how side bets are now "good bets", but only in small increments like a $5 bet. This was the same guy who use to call the same aforementioned side bets, "Sucker bets", a few months ago. Here is a summation of each bet:


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    Super 6: Bet on the 12-1 odds because you can win on a banker little tiger of 6(2 card) 25-1 or big tiger of 6(3 card) 50-1.
    Panda 3 Card 8: Bet on this because one time he won $500 on a bet with this side bet and the one in the next list.
    Any 8 over 6: Bet on this because he won $500 bucks on this and the previous bet. He does a combination of Panda 3 card and Any 8 when betting on Player for a chance of 3 wins.
    Natural 9 over 7: Bet on this because one shoe he played had 2 wins on six hands. He bet $5 and allegedly won $250.
    Dragon 3 card 7: Bet on this if you play on a non-commission table.
    Tie: Chrissy doesn't bet because Chrissy personally plays either Banker or Player. His friend who is also a "professional baccarat player" named Jason has a tie-bet system, but that's not Chrissy's style.

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    Chrissy needs some competition in the "Pay me $500 to learn all my winning strategies for unbeatable casino games" Facebook group scamming. Seriously.

    More of a competitive field would be a very good thing. For now, it seems there's only my best bud Tim is TRYING but I'm afraid it's not enough:



    Pretty much a carbon copy of Christopher, just without the polished production self-narrowed eyebrows and free lifetime coach and mentor add-on. Excellently, Học stresses you are simply buying someone's personal information (and it's not coming from a company or corporation selling --- this is just personal advice); way-to-insulate yourself Tim!

    And whereas Chrissy has pretty much locked down the look-for-streaks/choppy-tables side of things, Tim seeks to shake up the stagnant market with talk about how to use your personal ENERGY and SELF-ESTEEM to make you a winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Wars View Post
    Chrissy needs some competition in the "Pay me $500 to learn all my winning strategies for unbeatable casino games" Facebook group scamming. Seriously.

    More of a competitive field would be a very good thing. For now, it seems there's only my best bud Tim is TRYING but I'm afraid it's not enough:



    Pretty much a carbon copy of Christopher, just without the polished production self-narrowed eyebrows and free lifetime coach and mentor add-on. Excellently, Học stresses you are simply buying someone's personal information (and it's not coming from a company or corporation selling --- this is just personal advice); way-to-insulate yourself Tim!

    And whereas Chrissy has pretty much locked down the look-for-streaks/choppy-tables side of things, Tim seeks to shake up the stagnant market with talk about how to use your personal ENERGY and SELF-ESTEEM to make you a winner.

    You know someone is a scammer when the first two methods of payment they accept are WESTERN UNION and Walmart 2 Walmart fund transfer.

    This guy reminds me of BUK LAU from OWNAGE PRANKS...


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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGuy View Post
    So I watched Chrissy's new video and he's talking about how side bets are now "good bets", but only in small increments like a $5 bet. This was the same guy who use to call the same aforementioned side bets, "Sucker bets", a few months ago. Here is a summation of each bet:


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    Super 6: Bet on the 12-1 odds because you can win on a banker little tiger of 6(2 card) 25-1 or big tiger of 6(3 card) 50-1.
    Panda 3 Card 8: Bet on this because one time he won $500 on a bet with this side bet and the one in the next list.
    Any 8 over 6: Bet on this because he won $500 bucks on this and the previous bet. He does a combination of Panda 3 card and Any 8 when betting on Player for a chance of 3 wins.
    Natural 9 over 7: Bet on this because one shoe he played had 2 wins on six hands. He bet $5 and allegedly won $250.
    Dragon 3 card 7: Bet on this if you play on a non-commission table.
    Tie: Chrissy doesn't bet because Chrissy personally plays either Banker or Player. His friend who is also a "professional baccarat player" named Jason has a tie-bet system, but that's not Chrissy's style.

    Hilarious!

    How come Chrissy keeps changing his winning system so often, if it wins 99% of the time, and has led to him becoming a millionaire?

    If I had something like that, I wouldn't modify a thing!

     
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      PositiveVariance: Exactly, wouldn't change a thing, and definitely wouldn't share it with the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post

    It's not a big deal it's just that we have to weed through all your Britishisms before we get to the meat of your posts about this bloke Christopher Mitchell, nah mean? After a spell it's like carrying coal to Newcastle, innit? Anylord, ta ta me ole china.
    Mr. H, The Shrink breaking your chops is a sort of rite of passage on this thread. We enjoy your unique wit and please stay engaged on the thread.
    I didn't mean to run the chap off the site but I really couldn't read about "Englandshire" one more time in a thread about a baccarat scammer. I thought we were all "avin' a laugh!" Anyways, looks like he took his bobby stick and went back to his flat.

    mrhorney you're welcome come back and talk shit about my pet beaver and all-poutine diet.

    Anyways, back to CM. One thing you have to hand to this lunatic is that he's persistent. He's a true hustler. He just keeps churning out content that's completely filled with lies. He posts videos almost every other day and some of them would probably take quite a while to film and edit. It's a shame he's devoted his life to scamming when he could probably excel in many areas of life. For instance, I think he would be a decent salesman. Think about how good he would be as one of those timeshare salespeople on the Strip. Those people have no shame to be pushing overpriced vacation rentals on unsuspecting rubes. Perfect for CM. Timeshares are ripoffs but at least he would be doing something that's legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NewGuy View Post
    So I watched Chrissy's new video and he's talking about how side bets are now "good bets", but only in small increments like a $5 bet. This was the same guy who use to call the same aforementioned side bets, "Sucker bets", a few months ago. Here is a summation of each bet:


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    Super 6: Bet on the 12-1 odds because you can win on a banker little tiger of 6(2 card) 25-1 or big tiger of 6(3 card) 50-1.
    Panda 3 Card 8: Bet on this because one time he won $500 on a bet with this side bet and the one in the next list.
    Any 8 over 6: Bet on this because he won $500 bucks on this and the previous bet. He does a combination of Panda 3 card and Any 8 when betting on Player for a chance of 3 wins.
    Natural 9 over 7: Bet on this because one shoe he played had 2 wins on six hands. He bet $5 and allegedly won $250.
    Dragon 3 card 7: Bet on this if you play on a non-commission table.
    Tie: Chrissy doesn't bet because Chrissy personally plays either Banker or Player. His friend who is also a "professional baccarat player" named Jason has a tie-bet system, but that's not Chrissy's style.

    Hilarious!

    How come Chrissy keeps changing his winning system so often, if it wins 99% of the time, and has led to him becoming a millionaire?

    If I had something like that, I wouldn't modify a thing!
    He would rather run up a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth!

    Here’s another gem from Chrissy Rooney, the horse faced lizard!

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    Annnnnnd the lizard has gone back to Multi Level Marketing aka Pyramid Schemes!!!



    Guess it’s better than him going back to Gay porn videos for Colt Studios! Does he really think they’ll believe he sold his marketing company for any real amount of money? Why would someone buy his worthless company when they can literally start their own for nothing??

    At the end he starts pushing his worthless Facebook group and says he is as good a business partner as Amazon...BahahahahHahahahahahaha��
    Man this dipshit gets dumber every day!!!

    Around 36:30 he goes off the rails and acts like a complete buffoon , it’s pure comedy gold!

     
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    Anybody else see this? What's hilarious is they took up the same channel name. hahaha!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Annnnnnd the lizard has gone back to Multi Level Marketing aka Pyramid Schemes!!!



    Guess it’s better than him going back to Gay porn videos for Colt Studios! Does he really think they’ll believe he sold his marketing company for any real amount of money? Why would someone buy his worthless company when they can literally start their own for nothing??

    At the end he starts pushing his worthless Facebook group and says he is as good a business partner as Amazon...BahahahahHahahahahahaha��
    Man this dipshit gets dumber every day!!!

    Around 36:30 he goes off the rails and acts like a complete buffoon , it’s pure comedy gold!
    That’s right. Gambling is the best business you can start in 2020. There are so many out there who would absolutely recommend it...starting with...the people who own the casinos.

     
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