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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    A little more on Amazon Automation. Turns out this practice is actually against Amazon’s terms of service and they can shut your account down if they find out you’re doing this. There are all sorts of articles on the web that mention this…but this guy explains it very well (including how the automation “brokers” make you sign a waiver so you can’t sue them if/when your account is shut down). So you potentially are on a race agains the clock to make money before Amazon figures you out. Therefore it’s not going to be a long-term passive income source like these folks are selling.

    This guy is describing a "dropshipping" Amazon automation model where you own no products and simply arbitrage products sold by other retailers to send to your Amazon customers.

    He is correct that this dropshipping model is not allowed on Amazon because Amazon wants you personally to own and have physical possession of the products, either at your own warehouse or at an Amazon warehouse.

    However, the model (FBA: Fulfilled By Amazon) that Champion Ecom offers for $45,000 IS allowed because you actually own the products and they are stored at Amazon warehouses.

    Just because the FBA model (used by most Amazon sellers) is legit, doesn't mean that it will be profitable however.

    And charging a $45,000 start-up fee (not including any inventory) just makes profit even less likely as explained by the https://expertuniversity.com/amazon/amazon-automation/ article.

     
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      Forum Wars: Your statements match my own understanding of this "$45k automated store" situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    A little more on Amazon Automation. Turns out this practice is actually against Amazon’s terms of service and they can shut your account down if they find out you’re doing this. There are all sorts of articles on the web that mention this…but this guy explains it very well (including how the automation “brokers” make you sign a waiver so you can’t sue them if/when your account is shut down). So you potentially are on a race agains the clock to make money before Amazon figures you out. Therefore it’s not going to be a long-term passive income source like these folks are selling.


    I worked Cyber security for Amazon years ago and one of the biggest problems was multi-accounting and free trial abusers. We would be tasked in finding different accounts from the same person that were either deliberately starting free trials for Prime and then cancelling after 30 days and examining their info. We’d even examine those fake Amazon email orders that led to call centers in Indian running the Refund scam.

    However, I’m not sure they would be able to shut down These automated seller accounts if it uses a different log in with different account owner personal info. Simply because there are millions of homes that will have an Amazon account for each family member even though it will have the same billing/shipping address. They can simply deny any fraudulent activity and say the person is a guest in the home and has their own Amazon account.

    For instance if Paul Ryeman bought & sold Ryobi products on Amazon, but Jake Fruge signed in to that account and performed the transactions with Paul’s permission, it’s likely not going to get terminated.

    Now if they were using fake identities or shipping addresses, that might be easier to prove fraud. But like YT it’s a highly gray area that they’ll avoid disciplinarian action as long as Amazon is making money off of it!

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    I actually don't think CM put his investment into an Amazon Automation store because this setup requires the person running the store to have credit cards available to regularly purchase large quantities of inventory and CM has never shown us credit cards, only debit cards.
    (curiously though, he recently had a FB post where he talked about how he had a great FICA credit score, not sure if that's coincidence or not)

    If CM did spend money with Champion Ecom, I think it's more likely that he bought a ton of their websites, since on his June 16 "I'm afraid" video he referenced investing "a LOT of money" at least 3 times and honestly, for a guy who repeatedly claims to have $300,000 cash on hand, $45,000 is not really a lot to invest or an amount that if lost would threaten CM's and Stacy's lifestyle.

    If he spent $210,000 on the 33 website package and it didn't pan out profitably, now that might be financially devastating.

    But since CM tells us that he makes $5,000 daily at the casino and over $100,000 per month on his own, he could easily recoup that investment in 2 months just with his gambling.

    Unless of course CM's income claims are bullshit, since we've only ever seen them verified on his Office Depot whiteboard.

     
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      TheRivers: What exactly would one person do with 33 websites? So far all we’ve seen is a single domain for Chrissy and the site is about as basic as it comes.
      
      BedWetterBettor: Not that it’s 100 % proof , but he did rent a car for the video in Jeff’s truck. Now he could have used Turo with a debit card or it’s possible he used an airport location that allows debit cards. But it’s possible he got a low limit credit card

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    With Amazon Automation Stores, there's only one side which is doing the scamming. Just figuring that Chrissy, if involved, is wrapped-up on the SALES side of the business of the sale these stores to unsuspecting buyers and not the buying of these stores.

    It might seem like he has bought and owns some from things he's said/done, because he's trying to tout the "unbelievably amazing" opportunity these stores as an investment during his Mastermind courses. Surely, he's only trying to sell them and make the worry free commission for the sale of these stores. Classic Chrissy. Do as I say, not as I do (and pay me a commission). Probably the crown info - buy these stores for an amazing return like I (lyingly) do - at his Maturb Mind courses.

    His followers are such rubes. Look on the Internet!: buying Amazon Automated stores is NOT the way to go...no risk for their sellers, 100% of the risk for you!

    If true that all he is doing is selling these stores to his flock, I laugh. This is all you got as kickers for your overpriced seminars, Chrissy? Something they could research and buy (and lose $$$ at) on their own, without you (again) earning a commission? Bwahahahahahahahahaha...


     
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      Tariq Reed: I think CM would love to be on the selling side, but I don't think the financially desperate people he attracts have this kind of money to invest.
      
      BedWetterBettor: It’s as absurd as telling someone to buy a gas station for you, pay the overhead costs and I’ll pump the gas for $35K and we’ll split the profits! Only a moron wouldn’t see it’s a crock of shit, but then again these are Chrissy’s followers!
      
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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    A little more on Amazon Automation. Turns out this practice is actually against Amazon’s terms of service and they can shut your account down if they find out you’re doing this. There are all sorts of articles on the web that mention this…but this guy explains it very well (including how the automation “brokers” make you sign a waiver so you can’t sue them if/when your account is shut down). So you potentially are on a race agains the clock to make money before Amazon figures you out. Therefore it’s not going to be a long-term passive income source like these folks are selling.


    I worked Cyber security for Amazon years ago and one of the biggest problems was multi-accounting and free trial abusers. We would be tasked in finding different accounts from the same person that were either deliberately starting free trials for Prime and then cancelling after 30 days and examining their info. We’d even examine those fake Amazon email orders that led to call centers in Indian running the Refund scam.

    However, I’m not sure they would be able to shut down These automated seller accounts if it uses a different log in with different account owner personal info. Simply because there are millions of homes that will have an Amazon account for each family member even though it will have the same billing/shipping address. They can simply deny any fraudulent activity and say the person is a guest in the home and has their own Amazon account.

    For instance if Paul Ryeman bought & sold Ryobi products on Amazon, but Jake Fruge signed in to that account and performed the transactions with Paul’s permission, it’s likely not going to get terminated.

    Now if they were using fake identities or shipping addresses, that might be easier to prove fraud. But like YT it’s a highly gray area that they’ll avoid disciplinarian action as long as Amazon is making money off of it!

    I sold on Amazon for a few years (2018-2021) using the FBA model and Amazon allows store owners to set permissions on their accounts to allow access by others (virtual assistants for example).

    As long as you are using the FBA model, own your products and have them stored in Amazon warehouses, your account should be fine.

    The biggest problem with the dropshipping model described in the video happens when a customer wants to return an item.

    The customer bought the item on Amazon, but it arrives in a Walmart box with a Walmart receipt... the customer tries to return to Amazon and that's when the shit hits the fan for the seller (store owner).

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    TheRivers: What exactly would one person do with 33 websites? So far all we’ve seen is a single domain for Chrissy and the site is about as basic as it comes.


    The websites are sold as being lead generation websites for local businesses around the country with the promise of a $500 monthly return after 6-12 months, totally hands-off passive income to the investor.

    33 websites would supposedly generate $16,500 monthly after 1 year.

    At least that's the sales pitch on the webinar.

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    Well something triggered little Kyle/Kirk PresPratt into posting and looking foolish today! First, he gets mad at someone for asking him for money. However, this “pitch” sounds VERY familiar, like someone trying to run a scam 2 years ago in Vegas? Fly out across the country and gamble using your own money and someone’s “expert advice” and give them 50 percent of the winnings, now where and when did hear that pitch before???

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    This MAY be in response to Zach’s losing video and Chrissy being exposed as a fraud for leading this guy to ruin, despite numerous warnings that Zach acknowledged! So he got what he deserved.

    But then little Kirk goes further and rants about the guy’s spelling!?!

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    Oh the “Irony’s” of the gay porn Mitchell’s whining about misspelling! And how dare this guy from Baltimore ask the Bloat for money to gamble with! I mean the Bloat would never do that, except for on his Birthday after bamboozling 15 idiots to show up with the promise of a night of gambling and celebrating. Only to beg them for $1000 in a card and then conveniently forget his bankroll at “home”!

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    And then just weeks later, the same Bloke decides to extort these same 15 idiots for MORE money and to sign an NDA when they all just paid for a Lifetime membership fee months earlier! Shame on this guy for asking such an upstanding citizen when he would NEVER do such a thing himself!!

     
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      TheRivers: Don’t forget about the famous story about contacting a rich guy hoping that the guy would buy him a car (though of course he didn’t actually “ask” the guy to get him the car…just contacted him out of the blue not looking for anything.
      
      Phantom Limb: It would be terrib(ly funny)le if someone replied to the guy to consider letting truckers suck him off or jerking off on film for a bankroll
      
      JeffDime: +1

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    As a real positive, someone called chrissy out for refering to the initial poster as a loser.

    Theres a youtube short of Chrissy in the jaccuzzi, someone else can watch that nonsense.

    I'll review chrissy's video from yesterday a bit later, I'm sure his 8 tips or rules or whatever will just be things we've heard before.

     
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      BedWetterBettor: So he was dumb enough to re-enact the trucker blowjob fantasy scene from Fratman Kyle? Sounds like an easy mash up for Drone!
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

    PFA Rookie of the Year Awards
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    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2022: BDubs leaks chums club info
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Mine

     
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      zealanddonk: Findign that other clip has been an absolute gold mine for this site.
      
      1dollarboxcar: lol that's awesome!! :)
      
      Dan Druff: lol!
      
      JeffDime: Great shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    As a real positive, someone called chrissy out for refering to the initial poster as a loser.

    Theres a youtube short of Chrissy in the jaccuzzi, someone else can watch that nonsense.

    I'll review chrissy's video from yesterday a bit later, I'm sure his 8 tips or rules or whatever will just be things we've heard before.
    And unsurprisingly, the same day Chrissy is calling someone who cannot spell properly a loser, chrissy tries to impress us with the big word "luxurious" and forgets the 3rd u.

    Does that make him a loser?

     
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      TheRivers: It doesn’t make him a loser. He already was one.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

    PFA Rookie of the Year Awards
    2012: The Templar (unknown)
    2013: Jasep $5000+
    2015: Micon's gofundme legal defense $3k begging for 100k:
    2018: 4Dragons
    2019: Dutch Boyd: Mike Postle
    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2022: BDubs leaks chums club info
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Zach trying to claw his way back by attempting to win 10% each day instead of 3%. Gee I wonder how this is going to work out.

     
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      zealanddonk: Aaaaaaaaaaand Chrissy can now kick Zach out, or blame him for not following the most simple of instructions, just 3% a day, dont be greedy.
      
      BedWetterBettor: Yea, what happened to don’t be Greedy?? And Zach even copies Chrissy by starting every video with “Arrright”, only one other person on Social media who says “Arrright” more than Zach! Surprised there hasn’t been a mumbly video about Zach yet…arrright

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Zach trying to claw his way back by attempting to win 10% each day instead of 3%. Gee I wonder how this is going to work out.
    Sounds like he will need another colouring in book soon.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

    PFA Rookie of the Year Awards
    2012: The Templar (unknown)
    2013: Jasep $5000+
    2015: Micon's gofundme legal defense $3k begging for 100k:
    2018: 4Dragons
    2019: Dutch Boyd: Mike Postle
    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2022: BDubs leaks chums club info
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Well apparently Chrissy must be pretty limited in how he flys (and with what airline). For a guy who booked a flight “first thing in the morning” it sure took a long time to get to wherever it is that he’s now gone. My guess is it could be someplace like Mohegan Sun…given he had to rent a car to get there.

    Such a wonderful Dad and Husband that he is…He took his family on a spontaneous staycation….to yet another casino. How generous of him.

    Hey Chrissy, When will Bubs get a real vacation that doesn’t involve any casinos? I’m guessing likely never.

     
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    Looks like Chrissy has been punted from TikTok. Well done whomever reported what was going on.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Well apparently Chrissy must be pretty limited in how he flys (and with what airline). For a guy who booked a flight “first thing in the morning” it sure took a long time to get to wherever it is that he’s now gone. My guess is it could be someplace like Mohegan Sun…given he had to rent a car to get there.

    Such a wonderful Dad and Husband that he is…He took his family on a spontaneous staycation….to yet another casino. How generous of him.

    Hey Chrissy, When will Bubs get a real vacation that doesn’t involve any casinos? I’m guessing likely never.
    That's a great point. When's the last time you see Chrissy taking Bubs to any activities aside from the swimming pool -- and that one lol bowling alley visit?

    Looks like it's all caisno life for this kid, and there's no attention paid to the fact that he's 3 and hasn't talked yet.

     
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      TheRivers: Only time I can recall was when they were in Houston. But let’s face it…that trip doesn’t happen if Chrissy doesn’t get a World Series ticket.
      
      BedWetterBettor: Remember when he said he was going to buy him the train set from Bellagio? Funny how that got dropped and we only seen NVB playing with a single Tonka toy truck! Another Complete Lie!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Well apparently Chrissy must be pretty limited in how he flys (and with what airline). For a guy who booked a flight “first thing in the morning” it sure took a long time to get to wherever it is that he’s now gone. My guess is it could be someplace like Mohegan Sun…given he had to rent a car to get there.

    Such a wonderful Dad and Husband that he is…He took his family on a spontaneous staycation….to yet another casino. How generous of him.

    Hey Chrissy, When will Bubs get a real vacation that doesn’t involve any casinos? I’m guessing likely never.
    Assumedly this also means Chrissy wont be attending Keithy's sunday church shenanigans.
    Been a long time since we've seen any evidence of chrissy attending.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

    PFA Rookie of the Year Awards
    2012: The Templar (unknown)
    2013: Jasep $5000+
    2015: Micon's gofundme legal defense $3k begging for 100k:
    2018: 4Dragons
    2019: Dutch Boyd: Mike Postle
    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2022: BDubs leaks chums club info
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Zach trying to claw his way back by attempting to win 10% each day instead of 3%. Gee I wonder how this is going to work out.
    Sounds like he will need another colouring in book soon.

    Looks like Chrissy needs to borrow Stacy’s makeup again! The bags under his eyes are getting worse! Wonder if he’s still up at 4AM playing $2 spins to get that 3%??

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      zealanddonk: Do whatever it takes rep!

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    Great job everyone with your reporting of his Tiktok -- especially the guy who started the whole thing.

    Mission accomplished!

    Too bad YouTube isn't this responsive with reports of violating content.

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    Whatever It Takes

     
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      PositiveVariance: Chrissy Swallows rep
      
      The Boz: Love how he says “It was a good Blowjob”, which means it wasn’t the first he got from a guy.
      
      1dollarboxcar: lol... AWEOME !!

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    I have a strong feeling Stacy had no idea that Chrissy got his wiener sucked by another man. I bet he told her the same story he told his viewers about only jackin’ it on camera the couple times, and even that was probably only admitted after Stacy’s ex husband discovered it and was going to use it against Chrissy in court.

    I also have a feeling there are many more movies of Chrissy performing for men. Initially it had appeared he filmed his first movie at 18, then another one at 30 years old. Now we know there was a lot in between that time.


    More than likely there is footage out there of Chrissy the Sissy getting Nailed by a dude. Start sweating Chrissy, it will be found.

     
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      The Boz: Absolutely correct, someone is going to find guy on Chrissy video out there.
      
      1dollarboxcar: can't wait till this happens!!
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