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    Looks like at least one fake sports tout has bitten the dust. Maybe soon another one we all know will as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So Chrissy has sprung into action after the initial 2 reviews of his book were 1-star.

    Obviously there was a "call to action" to his so-called inner circle, where Chrissy claimed that the dead broke jealous haters were 1-starring his wonderful book, so they were all commanded to purchase it and give 5-star reviews, which seven of them did.

    Among those reviewers was Brown Nose Brandon Wingerter.

    These were 7 real purchases, so it wasn't Chrissy just posting reviews under fake names. Very sad how gullible some of these people are. It's like a cult. Surprised Brandon Wingerter is still around. Most of these staunch advocates disappear (or turn on Chrissy) once they lose their ass with his "winning strategies".

    Anyway Brandon or anyone else reading this, I have an offer for you:

    I am a REAL professional gambler who has been around for 20 years. Unlike Chrissy, I can show you independent verification of my results. While I won't give you gambling coaching, I WILL give you a free expert analysis of why Chrissy is full of shit, and why his systems will cause you to go broke. I will provide you all of the mathematical evidence, and then you can decide for yourself. I will never ask you to purchase anything or give me a penny. Feel free to text me at 775-372-8355 if interested. Anonymity guaranteed.
    hey guys up to page 91 or so now and question, druff, did anyone take you up on this offer?
    ok back to page 92 I'll be back in a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Mr. Davis:

    Since you keep calling me and this forum out in your videos, I have an offer for you.

    You say you've been in contact with YouTube Legal, and caused CM's channel to be "taken down" (which is very curious since the videos are being shown marked as private). You've also claimed that you're working with the FBI, IRS, and Nevada Attorney General's office to go after CM.

    So here's my offer to you:

    If you can show me PROOF that:

    1) YouTube Legal has had a meaningful dialogue with you, aside from a form letter or "we'll look into it" sort of response.

    2) The FBI, IRS, and Nevada AG have been in meaningful contact with you regarding CM (again, and not just a form letter or "thank you for notifying us" response).

    3) YouTube has indicated to you that they took down CM's channel due to your contacts with them.


    ... then I will unban you from this forum, and I will post a public apology for having doubted you.

    You always tell CM to "show the proof", so now the ball's in your court. Let's see the proof, Kevin. And by "proof", I mean verifiable e-mails, not screen shots of your gmail with details blotted out.

    Also, please don't respond regarding Morgenstern, because that's old news. We're talking about the past year, and we're talking about CM. "Show us the proof", as you love to say.

    Thanks. Looking forward to the information which you undoubtedly have and will be happy to present to me.
    hey I'm back, did kd take you up on this offer? I have a good feeling about this one

     
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      AhoosierA: KD nor CM has taken druff up on any offers.

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    This is my synopsis for the latest filth delivered by Christopher.

    Where do I begin…

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    I don’t know what is going on Chrissy’s wardrobe but it’s really repugnant. It’s looks like he’s wearing unkempt clothes with dried up sweat and cum stains. He has that disheveled look like he’s been Jack Daniels all day. Well…I know that “millionaires” can be frugal and cheap but not till this extent.

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    He made the another mention that Stacy’s parents like him and accept him.

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    Let’s get some facts straight. Your in-laws love Stacy and Silent Bubs. Not you, Chrissy cocksucker. I don’t think they like or accept you at all. Have you ever heard the saying you can lead the horse to the water but you can’t make them drink it. We are aware that the Fosters have told their dim-witted daughter of theirs time after time again about their gay shithole scamming son-in-law. But Tuna isn’t comprehending her bleak and dire situation. What is going to be the breaking point? You better leave Skank.

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    Now, let’s focus our attention on the finances again. Oh Christopher…now you are fraudulently claiming to make 50k a month.

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    Besides scamming your victims through cash apps and crypto for a few thousands that you run through like you do your Vegas twinks, you don’t show nothing. You’re all talk…Where are the receipts? Where’s the tax documents? Showing a Chase envelope and saying that you make 600k is an absolute farce. Chrissy, you lack the insufficient evidence and proof to back this up. You never once produced a single yearly win/loss statement from your trips from the brick & mortar casinos (which you can’t go to no more) and the online suspect gambling sites you visit. By the way, if you’re so rich and Christian-like, Christopher, you should be investing time and giving back some money to those who have chosen to follow your idiotic strategies and had their lives ruined because of you. You’re really changing lives indeed, you bald little shameful prick.

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    My favorite time stamp: 13:50 Bubs doesn’t have to work a day in his life again.

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    Umm…Your son wouldn’t have to work because you and that prop wife of yours, fucked that child up. From the alcoholic laced breast milk that came from that bitch’s grotesque God awful mammaries to the unsafe and ridiculous Third World environment that you idiots provide, Bubs is behind the 8 Ball and the future is not bright.
    I’m 100% confident that he’s receiving a check for his health issues. That money is going to gambling and other unimportant things. Is Bubs paying for some of that condo along with Daddy Foster?? It wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Really sepulchral and depressing.

    I don’t know when this bullshit is going to end…As you said, there’s going to be a price to pay. Well, Christopher. You will be paying a high price that money will not be able to buy if you continue along this forsaken path that you are walking upon. No one is going to save you.

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    Fuck you, Chrissy.

     
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    So in KD’s latest video he says that Chrissy is labeled by casinos as a “cheat” and therefore will never be allowed in to any of them again. I’m not sure I’m clear on how this would be possible. Yes he certainly has had scam activities taking place in casinos, which I’m sure they don’t like at all. But the term “cheat”…how would this apply to Chrissy? In order to be labeled as such wouldn’t he have had to do something like past-posting or working with a dealer to cheat the system? I’ve never seen anything that indicates he’s involved with any of this.

    I think it’s relatively clear that Chrissy can’t go to the big casinos anymore…but I can’t see it being because he has been labeled as a “cheat.”

     
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      Forum Wars: could it be the video two posts down where he ratholes?!
      
      Elmo: There has to be an reason why he’s hasn’t been back to the Strip or Fremont the last several months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    So in KD’s latest video he says that Chrissy is labeled by casinos as a “cheat” and therefore will never be allowed in to any of them again. I’m not sure I’m clear on how this would be possible. Yes he certainly has had scam activities taking place in casinos, which I’m sure they don’t like at all. But the term “cheat”…how would this apply to Chrissy? In order to be labeled as such wouldn’t he have had to do something like past-posting or working with a dealer to cheat the system? I’ve never seen anything that indicates he’s involved with any of this.

    I think it’s relatively clear that Chrissy can’t go to the big casinos anymore…but I can’t see it being because he has been labeled as a “cheat.”
    Yeah either Chrissy got desperate and decided to past post one night, or Karen Davis is making yet another claim with zero evidence, to get attention.

    I’ll be the book today.

    CM Cheated +750
    KD Lied -1200

     
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      BedWetterBettor: To be fair, it’s not hard to remove a losing bet in Baccarat if your sitting in the dealer’s peripheral vision and subtly do it. Which I could see Chrissy doing and walking away without incident. The upon return, got confronted by security and 86’d

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    So in KD’s latest video he says that Chrissy is labeled by casinos as a “cheat” and therefore will never be allowed in to any of them again. I’m not sure I’m clear on how this would be possible. Yes he certainly has had scam activities taking place in casinos, which I’m sure they don’t like at all. But the term “cheat”…how would this apply to Chrissy? In order to be labeled as such wouldn’t he have had to do something like past-posting or working with a dealer to cheat the system? I’ve never seen anything that indicates he’s involved with any of this.

    I think it’s relatively clear that Chrissy can’t go to the big casinos anymore…but I can’t see it being because he has been labeled as a “cheat.”
    Here's a video from the end of the "100's of thousands in losses" days in Ohio where he is basically explaining how to rathole and get more comps than he should be getting. (if you go to 3:14 he explains the "hoodies with pockets" way to rathole).



    ...but I don't think this is necessarily why he got banned.

     
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    Funny enough Wars, he’s now going All In in today’s video with the Online Blackjack shtick. He now proclaims automated BJ is better than live dealers because no “idiots “ playing Basic Strategy can take cards that might help you. He conveniently leaves out the part that using that logic , they would also be taking cards that would “hurt “ you as well. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story , right Kyle?

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    He also says he has to use fake names to play so nobody follows him and bets alongside him?!?! Bahahahaha, you can’t make this stuff up! He really thinks people are going to troll the bet online tables to “steal” his “winning “ ways.

    More likely they’ll watch and record him losing & then expose him like Davis did at Sycuan!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Funny enough Wars, he’s now going All In in today’s video with the Online Blackjack shtick. He now proclaims automated BJ is better than live dealers because no “idiots “ playing Basic Strategy can take cards that might help you. He conveniently leaves out the part that using that logic , they would also be taking cards that would “hurt “ you as well. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story , right Kyle?

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    He also says he has to use fake names to play so nobody follows him and bets alongside him?!?! Bahahahaha, you can’t make this stuff up! He really thinks people are going to troll the bet online tables to “steal” his “winning “ ways.

    More likely they’ll watch and record him losing & than expose him like Davis did at Sycuan!
    Is Chrissy savvier (and likewise, by necessity, more evil) than we think he is?

    #1: Automated games vs. Live Games = more hands/spins per hour = more losses for his affiliate account which makes 35% of his sign-ups losses = more profit for Chrissy. SCUM MOVE for a guy who wouldn't even play automated tables IN casinos a year ago.

    #2: Pushing that AUTOMATED Blackjack hard. REQUIRES that his devotees use "no bust", 6 or 7% house edge against themselves. Maybe he "gets" that this is his biggest loser play now that his ass has been handed to him with that strategy so many times. Ahhhh, but Chrissy so smart! PUSH this biggest loser strategy (No Bust Blackjack) to his Facebook group and those clowns will lose 6-10 times faster than before! Voila!!! Chrissy "wins" more --- a lot more --- as they lose and lose with this plainly stupid strategy that they could google and find out is a loser in less than 30 secs. Then, if they question the almighty Emperor in a Facebook message, it's time to remind them that HE lost 100's of thousands and they've only lost $5k!!! How dare they question his scam, er, strategies!!!!! "Back to work for me, you ungrateful idiot". "Don't even think of quitting!"

    And if they quit, no big deal, he squeezed from them for all he could, they had to quit sometime. Next.

    This is savviness for the completely top 0.00001% of our society. Well, the top 0.00001% of that are the uncouth, the MLM life "coaches", the country club golf hustlers, the scumbags.

     
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      TheRivers: And he continues to point out when people lose extra by doubling down yet doesn’t call out the times he cost himself money by NOT doubling down.
      
      BedWetterBettor: Wow, seriously fucked up if that’s his play! But short term gain will cannibalize his current suckers. So maybe it actually hurts his long term gains
      
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    Yesterday's video was a very clear insight into who Chrissy really is, and should be used any time he ever claims to be a Christian or a good person.

    Short version "Until you cocksuckers have sucked as much cock as I have, fuck off with your whining."

    He conveniently forgets the whole gimmick he is selling "wins every day" so no one should be losing $5000 a year.
    Good old empathy is out the door as well.

    "My wife worked 16 hours a day in the ER, while I did absolutely nothing that benefited society".

    "Her parents wanted her to divorce me" yeah no kidding.

    "But they kinda like me now" right up until the 15th marti is needed I'm sure.

    Rants that some casino is a shithole because he wasnt smart enough to know that online gambling existed.

    Claims Bubs will never work a job, or go to public school not realising thats probably right for other reasons.

    He loosely touches on how he managed to get $350k to lose in his second year but doesnt go too deeply into that either.

     
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    Chrissy…Chrissy…Chrissy…

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    I’m not sure exactly why Chrissy isn’t going to back to the brick and mortar casino. I’m quite sure for certain that something happened with him and with the Cosmopolitan. The Rivers and I touched on this issue way back in the Thread a while ago. I state that point is to recap this; because there was a local Vegas YouTuber named Pompsie got barred from the property and good old dummy Christopher posted on his comment section about he can relate to getting thrown out of the casino. To make a long story short, the Cosmo realized their mistakes and made amends with Pompsie and gave him an ultra nice suite along with perks to make up for his prior experience there. With Chrissy, none of the sorts, happened or transpired. Nothing. Not a damn thing. I am not sure what he was doing but he has not been in Cosmo for the longest time filming or anything.

    Now with the other casinos, he was going there sparingly to Caesars, Venetian, Circa, Gold Nugget, Harrah’s, The Bellagio, The Wynn and some other properties on the Strip and on Fremont. It seems that after his lame birthday party and bukkake baccarat camp, he was not seen in actual casino except Red Rock. Don’t worry, Station Casinos will be contacted in reference to this man and his scams and he won’t be going there for anything gambling related soon.

    I visited the Nevada Gaming Control Board and looked a list that last updated in 2019. Christopher Mitchell is not on this legendary registry.

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    Here’s the bottom line: he’s either getting warnings or getting personalized 86’d letters banning him from properties or he’s not going back due to the fact that if he is caught doing anything suspicious (soliciting customers, laundering chips, or loitering etc), he will face dire consequences.

    We all can’t wait for the day you fuck up, Chrissy.

     
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    So it’s been quite a few days of Chrissy-related activity. Here are some random thoughts (we’ll call them….the “Random Rivers”):

    Regarding Chrissy being labeled a “cheat:”

    - I’m still not seeing where he would have cheated a casino.
    - it was suggested that his practice of “hiding” his winnings may be what earned him this label. But I’ve never heard of any obligation that a player has to leave chips out on the table or to color up when ready to leave. Now one could say that by leaving chips in his pocket and tricking the casino into logging him as having lost might be ways to cheat on taxes…but I’m not sure that matters either. Those win/loss statements are inaccurate at best even when the chips are out in plain view all the time.
    - No question he’s got lots of concern and doesn’t want to go into the big casinos anymore. But I think it’s more that they have just told him they don’t want him there because he is scamming people

    So when did this “ban” begin?

    There was a video that he did on the short-lived “Keeping up with” channel where you see him at The Venetian and he does the usual chip showcase. But then you see him complaining about how long it took for him to cash out. I think that might have been the beginning of the end. They likely cornered him at the cage and told him he shouldn’t come back. Later on in that same video you see him at the Mirage and he makes a big deal out of promising to “stay at the Mirage very soon” and then he asks Stacy “Don’t I always do what I say I’m going to do?” Well there never was a stay at the Mirage…so he likely got punted from there as well.

    The last “Strip” casino that he stayed at was Sahara, which was in June…and all he did was complain about it. And in that video he also claimed to have another big comp coming up at a different casino soon….It never happened.

    About the “letter video:”

    - No question that was a response to the Australian guy.
    - Like I said yesterday…His whole sales pitch is that he charges what he does because he did all the work for you and now you won’t have to go through all the pain he did. Now he’s saying that you have to pay the price in losses.
    - 50K/month?? I don’t think so

    About the endless Blackjack video:

    - I like when he ripped apart the two other players for splitting and then proceeds to kill the guy who lost while not even acknowledging that the guy who split aces actually won both hands.
    - Multiple times Chrissy should have doubled and he would have won every time
    - The reason he says not to double or spit is not because he’s afraid of losing more than his base bet…but because that’s one less martingale that he can do if he loses
    - When your game is martingale it actually doesn’t matter much if you use no bust. You’re banking on either getting a good hand or the dealer busting (either of those two events) at least one time within any 6 or 7 hand stretch. If that’s all you care about then the strategy you use within a hand really doesn’t matter much.
    - Chrissy thinks that doubling or splitting or any combination thereof is throwing your money away but doesn’t understand that martingale is an even worse way to throw money away
    - He says that he discovered by playing in the casino that “idiots” will mess up his no bust and that caused him to lose. BUT….he was in actual casinos supposedly playing blackjack for well over a year before he started the online thing and always claimed he would win every single time. So wait….there were no idiots playing for that entire time and then they all of a sudden showed up earlier this year

    Okay…that’s enough thoughts for one night. Note to self…trademark the “Random Rivers” title ASAP.

     
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      UtahDrone: Morgenstern used to show his letters from the casinos when they were 86’ing him from all of their properties, which was funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post

    - I like when he ripped apart the two other players for splitting and then proceeds to kill the guy who lost while not even acknowledging that the guy who split aces actually won both hands.
    - Multiple times Chrissy should have doubled and he would have won every time
    I really think that he is so delusional that his strategy works that he doesn’t even acknowledge obvious inaccuracies with his strategy, even when they happen before his eyes. They focus only on what happened because of said split or double, they don’t even realize or comprehend what REALLY would have occurred.

    For instance, he jumps up and quacks like a duck when the guy splitting 10s lost , not even looking at the cards he pulled! Which happened to be a 3 and a 6 , those two cards would have given the dealer 21 as he was drawing on a 12. But instead he focuses on the “bad move” of splitting as if THAT was the reason why he lost!

    Also, the game is multi deck BJ, but is being dealt like Single Deck meaning the dealer has no Hole card until everyone else acts. So many times, the “bust card” that the “idiot” pulls would’ve given the dealer a hand like 20 or 19 anyway as it was a 10. But of course this dipshit only thinks his way is correct and fails to see the truth even when it’s right in front of him.

    I can fully see him acting like this in a live casino situation and being told not to say anything to other players. I’ve dealt with these types who think they’re always right, when the truth is right there on the table. It’s a big reason why I only play in high limit rooms now and stay away from morons like Chrissy who think they can beat basic strategy and simple math!

     
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    Chrissy's approach to gambling systems are a textbook example of an uneducated person believing that somehow they have discovered how to beat Vegas, and nobody else decades beforehand ever realized the same thing they did.

    It requires a lot of delusion and stubbornness to continue that line of thinking, and somehow they just think they can ignore the laws of basic mathematics.

    His "winning strategies" appeal to some people partially because he doesn't appeal to be an intellectual. The average Joe is intimidated by the concepts of card counting and advantage play. These are tedious, take time to learn, and have a lot of variance just to squeeze out small edges. The typical gambler just wants to know a quick and easy secret to success. Enter Chrissy, who tells you in simple English that he'll coach you to that secret.

    A high % of people don't fall for it, but he manages to reel in a few fish that do. Every one of his strategies -- whether roulette, baccarat, blackjack, or sportsbetting, follow the same basic ploppy Martingale-type routine, and of course they all lose.

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    Chrissy…Chrissy…Chrissy…

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    I’m not sure exactly why Chrissy isn’t going to back to the brick and mortar casino. I’m quite sure for certain that something happened with him and with the Cosmopolitan. The Rivers and I touched on this issue way back in the Thread a while ago. I state that point is to recap this; because there was a local Vegas YouTuber named Pompsie got barred from the property and good old dummy Christopher posted on his comment section about he can relate to getting thrown out of the casino. To make a long story short, the Cosmo realized their mistakes and made amends with Pompsie and gave him an ultra nice suite along with perks to make up for his prior experience there. With Chrissy, none of the sorts, happened or transpired. Nothing. Not a damn thing. I am not sure what he was doing but he has not been in Cosmo for the longest time filming or anything.

    Now with the other casinos, he was going there sparingly to Caesars, Venetian, Circa, Gold Nugget, Harrah’s, The Bellagio, The Wynn and some other properties on the Strip and on Fremont. It seems that after his lame birthday party and bukkake baccarat camp, he was not seen in actual casino except Red Rock. Don’t worry, Station Casinos will be contacted in reference to this man and his scams and he won’t be going there for anything gambling related soon.

    I visited the Nevada Gaming Control Board and looked a list that last updated in 2019. Christopher Mitchell is not on this legendary registry.

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    Here’s the bottom line: he’s either getting warnings or getting personalized 86’d letters banning him from properties or he’s not going back due to the fact that if he is caught doing anything suspicious (soliciting customers, laundering chips, or loitering etc), he will face dire consequences.

    We all can’t wait for the day you fuck up, Chrissy.

    John Conti was no one to trifle with.
    He must've passed on by now... screaming in flames.Or if you a Dante fan, shut solid in a brick of ice??!!

    John Joseph Conti - Conti has been identified by law enforcement agencies as being a soldier in the Lucchese organized crime family and in 1988 was identified as such in material presented before the United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Organized Crime.



    This is Archie Karas, I personally know him..
    playing 4-8 Lhe, 1-2 nl at ORLEAN's til he cheated the Indians in Calif... google Archie, he is a gamblers story to be read.


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    A couple points as far as Chrissy being labeled a “Cheat”...

    The pictures above are the Nevada’s GCB Excluded Persons List. There may be some exceptions, but the vast majority of these people have CONVICTIONS. Many of these people are “Infamous”, as SSB mentioned there is Archie Karas, another guy on that first page is Tommy Glenn Carmichael. He stole millions as a slot cheat. If you put his name in YouTube there is a great documentary called “ The man who cheated Vegas and stole Millions”.

    The second type of databases are privately held databases that are sold to Casinos so they can identify problem guest. As well as being able to identify problem guest, they can also add someone to the system. The entire purpose is to share information between casinos that purchase/subscribe to the database. For every one person who is on the list above (GCB Excluded persons list) there are hundreds, possibly even thousands in these subscription databases. It’s incredibly easy for a casino to put someone on this list as a cheat. Virtually no proof is required. It will show the date, and location of casino.
    It may look like this:
    8/1/2020-Bellagio- “ Mr. Mitchell was observed pulling his losing banker bet back prior to the dealer collecting the losing bet. Mr. Mitchell claims he had thought the dealer had pushed the bet. Mr. Mitchell was warned 2 other times and eventually ask to leave”
    OR
    8/1/2020-Bellagio-“Mr. Mitchell poked his head over the restrooms stall divider and offered a guest a “Blowie” For a ‘Couple of Red Chips”.

    Each casino has there own policies in accordance with the database agreement. It may be a surveillance operator, but likely being approved by director of surveillance.

    Most professional cheaters and advantage players (2 Entirely different classifications) usually don’t get a players card for this very reason. Just by suspecting you, they can database you, then at many places you are toast. Otherwise, they have to find a legal way to get your name.

    Did Chrissy “Cheat”? My guess is No. I do not believe he did any intentional cheating. Could he have done something like the example mentioned above, where it could appear that he is trying to “take a shot”? Yes, could happen to anyone, especially if he already was in the database as a “scammer”, it would make it that much easier for the person making the entries to make cheating accusations.

    Here is the thing:
    Most of us that have been around casinos for any length of time either knows someone personally or “knows someone, that knows someone” that for a price or even a favor could get an entry made into a database. Knowing the right people, it wouldn’t be that difficult.

    Out of all the folks that hate Chrissy it wouldn’t surprise me if he has an entry for “Cheating”. Did he actually cheat? Highly doubt it.

    If I was KD, I would show the entry. Simply cover up any identifying information of the person pulling the report and show it. There are only so many of these databases, so someone that really wants to know could find it, if it is in there with the right connections.

    Also with a large portion of the strip casinos being owned by 2 companies they also have their own internal methods of sharing info company wide.

     
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      shoeshine box: solid assessment.
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    Yeah as mentioned recently, when he last filmed himself at Venetian, he complained afterwards that it took "forever" to cash out.

    This was when he was going to casino to casino with his lol $5k bankroll, playing a few hands Martingale-style in attempt to get up $100, and then quitting once he did.

    I assumed at the time that the "taking forever" part was because the casino saw him buy in $5k, barely play (and do so at just $25/hand), and cash out. They probably had observed this a few times in a relatively short timeframe, and assumed it had to be money laundering.

    Of course, we know Chrissy, and we know he doesn't have any money to launder! However, the Venetian doesn't know that, and indeed his ridiculous overbuyin pattern (which he once admitted he does because he "feels rich") is exactly what money launderers do. So it looks like he was mistakenly believed to be a launderer, and either harshly warned/investigated or 86ed. Hilarious! I would love to have seen the conversation.

    "Folks! I am not laundering money! I grew up poor and always carry around my $5k bankroll so I feel rich and successful. Plus I use the super secret Martingale strategy, so I buy in for $5000 every time so I can hopefully win $100 and quit."

    "What?! What do you mean you don't believe me? Do you need my wife Stacy to vouch for me?"

    "What?! I'm 86ed?! I hope you know that I'm a big deal on YouTube and this will not look good for you!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yeah as mentioned recently, when he last filmed himself at Venetian, he complained afterwards that it took "forever" to cash out.

    This was when he was going to casino to casino with his lol $5k bankroll, playing a few hands Martingale-style in attempt to get up $100, and then quitting once he did.

    I assumed at the time that the "taking forever" part was because the casino saw him buy in $5k, barely play (and do so at just $25/hand), and cash out. They probably had observed this a few times in a relatively short timeframe, and assumed it had to be money laundering.

    Of course, we know Chrissy, and we know he doesn't have any money to launder! However, the Venetian doesn't know that, and indeed his ridiculous overbuyin pattern (which he once admitted he does because he "feels rich") is exactly what money launderers do. So it looks like he was mistakenly believed to be a launderer, and either harshly warned/investigated or 86ed. Hilarious! I would love to have seen the conversation.

    "Folks! I am not laundering money! I grew up poor and always carry around my $5k bankroll so I feel rich and successful. Plus I use the super secret Martingale strategy, so I buy in for $5000 every time so I can hopefully win $100 and quit."

    "What?! What do you mean you don't believe me? Do you need my wife Stacy to vouch for me?"

    "What?! I'm 86ed?! I hope you know that I'm a big deal on YouTube and this will not look good for you!"
    I think he was being watched and/or banned from sone places well before this event. He recently made a comment about having to show your players card is a negative when going to actual casinos and said they “look at you like you’re a criminal.” And this is something I picked up on quite a while ago. Late last year he made a few live streams wherein he was going from casino to casino playing slots You never saw him insert his players cards. He was even asked about this in the comments at times (because he had always preached the importance of the players card) and his response was “oh I simply forgot.” He did a few videos playing slots at multiple places each video and you never saw him use a card. No way he forgot all those times. He absolutely didn’t want the casinos to know he was playing.

     
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    Honestly I think what really did Chrissy in was his own customers complaining.

    Picture Chrissy brings you out to Vegas and tells you about his 99% winning strategy, and you pay him $2000 or whatever for his lol coaching.

    Then he takes you to a casino, and you both lose your ass. When you confront him about how this happened, he either tells you that this was the 1% of time you're losing, or blames you for something you supposedly did wrong.

    I have to imagine these people were super pissed, and some probably even suspected the casino was in on the whole thing (which they weren't, of course). So while some customers probably left in shame and never spoke of it again, others probably aggressively complained. This likely happened enough times where he got a mixture of being told to stop bringing customers, stop filming, or stop coming altogether.

    Some of the casinos probably had a tough decision on their hands, as Chrissy himself was a problem gambler who dumped money in the pits. However, at some point they don't want any part of this type of shit, even from a consistent loser.

     
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      donkey: + Giving his Bellagio Host an arse reaming by convincing the host to com him a suite and $$$$ for his Anal Bash Birthday only to book no play because he “forgot his wallet” and brought in low rollers like Brown Nose Brandon.

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    His buying chips and not playing and then cashing out would cause him major problems in short order.

     
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      BedWetterBettor: Eh, I see people at Baccarat tables buy in for 5k,9k,10k and play all of two hands at the minimum. He could easily be doing that for much lower buy-ins!
      
      donkey: And, why is it that they are buying in for 5k,9k,10k and play all of two hands at the minimum?

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