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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Chrissy is correct on one thing. Being a professional gambler is very difficult. I am self aware enough to know where my shortcomings are and still take sick beats that make me steam. I still will bet shit that I am -EV on for the fuck of it. Between this thread and all the videos there was plenty of information out there that betting strategies are fucking nonsense in the long run. Druff, who is well respected in the gambling world made this clear in his first radio segment, but Chrissy never or just couldn’t listen.

    There is this paradox regarding those who consider (or at least publicly claim) to be advantage players when it comes to Baccarat. I know this has been a point of contention for some time. They employ these betting strategies using patterns shown in different formats which both online and live casinos have no problem showing them. Hell, they give you a fucking scorecard where you can conceivably count down every single card that comes out of that shoe and still don’t care. If someone has ever been banned from a casino for playing baccarat and being too good at reading patterns I would love to know.

    Chrissy for sure underestimated the gambling community. APs, Poker Players, Sports Bettors and even long time recreational gamblers can spot a fake in a split second. Thinking he could just move out to Vegas, bring in these coaching clients while taping, post it on YouTube, etc was going to sustain long term was just absurd. However, his biggest mistake was betting all that money himself and actually believing some simple bullshit strategy could beat the game of Baccarat long term.

    So Chrissy when you are looking for people to blame about being dusted, busted and far less trusted, you got to start with Kyle Prescott. Go to your Mlife Account, Ceaser’s Account, Bconnected (Boyd) & the various shitty casinos you have been forced to resort to lately (Which may or may not have this functionality). Going back to my first video I ever made go to your Win-Loss Statement. Add up all you lost in 2019, 2020 & 2021 (Now that is a BIG LOAD). Your strategies are never going to work. You have no idea what you are doing. You don’t have any of the skill set needed to become a professional gambler.

    It’s time to let go. Move on with the next thing. We know you are going to use that YouTube Channel. Maybe sell something of worth and not snake oil. Time to say goodbye to the city of Las Vegas. As for the victims & if you will ever pay for what you have done, that I don’t know. Time to be introspective and change YOUR life. Don’t manifest it, get the fuck out of Vegas for real. It’s over.
    Phil Ivey is the only one I’ve ever heard of getting backed off in Baccarat. And what he did with “edge sorting” I’d imagine is extremely difficult.

    Here’s an interesting video I came across from the guys who publish the American Casino Guide. They pretty much give Baccarat an absolute no when it comes to a game where you can be a pro gambler. This is just part two. In part one they answer the same question about other games like blackjack, roulette, and craps.


     
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    3 days since last video and 2 days since last comment. I don’t do burners but I’m sure he’s still deleting comments. Impossible that he hasn’t gotten any for 2 days. I’m thinking beyond being broke, he may have had a member(s) of his FB group lose their ass(es) as well. Trying to deal with how to handle all that damage control. Surprised he left that last video up after Rivers nailed his ass on it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    3 days since last video and 2 days since last comment. I don’t do burners but I’m sure he’s still deleting comments. Impossible that he hasn’t gotten any for 2 days. I’m thinking beyond being broke, he may have had a member(s) of his FB group lose their ass(es) as well. Trying to deal with how to handle all that damage control. Surprised he left that last video up after Rivers nailed his ass on it.
    I know the ultimate goal is to shut Chrissy down, but not having a video of his antics and reminding me that even when things are bad, they’re not as bad as Chrissy’s life, is kind of missed. 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS9 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    3 days since last video and 2 days since last comment. I don’t do burners but I’m sure he’s still deleting comments. Impossible that he hasn’t gotten any for 2 days. I’m thinking beyond being broke, he may have had a member(s) of his FB group lose their ass(es) as well. Trying to deal with how to handle all that damage control. Surprised he left that last video up after Rivers nailed his ass on it.
    I know the ultimate goal is to shut Chrissy down, but not having a video of his antics and reminding me that even when things are bad, they’re not as bad as Chrissy’s life, is kind of missed. 😂

    You will be fine RMS. Chances of you winning the Powerball are greater than that of Chrissy never uploading again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Thanks BD! Here is the guys full video.

    This guy isn't a winning player. I also doubt he was averaging $600 per hand and then couldn't get a comp room extended at Palace Station, of all places, during a pandemic.

    If he's betting like that, why is he spending time at a shithole like Palace Station in the first place? Chrissy is only there because they won't let him take his "students" on the strip anyomre!

    Notice this guy doesn't have any kind of +EV plan to win at baccarat. He just sits there and fires. Then he criticizes Chrissy's betting strategy, as if his own is any better. Guess what? You're both -EV and are going broke if you are trying to support yourselves this way.

    There is possibly a way to beat baccarat without edge sorting (the thing Ivey did via his highly skilled betting partner). JSTAT on this forum claims to have come up with a card counting system for baccarat. I never bothered to analyze it, but I will say JSTAT is a pretty sharp guy, so it's possible he was onto something. At least he had a method which could possibly be +EV. LOL @ just playing the game normally and thinking that "betting systems" will win money for you, though. That's what these this guy and Chrissy are doing.

    At least this guy isn't selling any systems, though. So I'm not going to be too hard on him. If he just likes making videos about his baccarat exploits, I have no problem with that.

    Regarding comps, it is true that hosts have a bug up their ass regarding giving you more than 4 nights. I've run into that wall, as well, and often for nonsensical reasons, after putting in a lot of action. I can discuss that later if you like.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Thanks BD! Here is the guys full video.

    This guy isn't a winning player. I also doubt he was averaging $600 per hand and then couldn't get a comp room extended at Palace Station, of all places, during a pandemic.

    If he's betting like that, why is he spending time at a shithole like Palace Station in the first place? Chrissy is only there because they won't let him take his "students" on the strip anyomre!

    Notice this guy doesn't have any kind of +EV plan to win at baccarat. He just sits there and fires. Then he criticizes Chrissy's betting strategy, as if his own is any better. Guess what? You're both -EV and are going broke if you are trying to support yourselves this way.

    There is possibly a way to beat baccarat without edge sorting (the thing Ivey did via his highly skilled betting partner). JSTAT on this forum claims to have come up with a card counting system for baccarat. I never bothered to analyze it, but I will say JSTAT is a pretty sharp guy, so it's possible he was onto something. At least he had a method which could possibly be +EV. LOL @ just playing the game normally and thinking that "betting systems" will win money for you, though. That's what these this guy and Chrissy are doing.

    At least this guy isn't selling any systems, though. So I'm not going to be too hard on him. If he just likes making videos about his baccarat exploits, I have no problem with that.

    Regarding comps, it is true that hosts have a bug up their ass regarding giving you more than 4 nights. I've run into that wall, as well, and often for nonsensical reasons, after putting in a lot of action. I can discuss that later if you like.
    Yes. I was a bit puzzled about why someone who bet that big would want to stay at Palace Station...not that Palace Station is all that horrible. I’ve been there a few times...it’s okay and all. But what I will say for this guy is that he actually has footage of himself playing at a table (well...he’s behind the camera anyway) and you at least see that while filming he made some big bets (one of which looked like it was about $20K, which he wins). Chrissy shows you absolutely nothing at the table...Claims he’ll get kicked out if he tries. In the meantime “The Big Jackpot” filmed an entire Blackjack session inside the high limit room at Caesar’s Palace and the casino was on board with it. Surely Chrissy who is the number one VIP gambler in all of North America could have convinced at least some casino to let him film his play at a private table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS9 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    3 days since last video and 2 days since last comment. I don’t do burners but I’m sure he’s still deleting comments. Impossible that he hasn’t gotten any for 2 days. I’m thinking beyond being broke, he may have had a member(s) of his FB group lose their ass(es) as well. Trying to deal with how to handle all that damage control. Surprised he left that last video up after Rivers nailed his ass on it.
    I know the ultimate goal is to shut Chrissy down, but not having a video of his antics and reminding me that even when things are bad, they’re not as bad as Chrissy’s life, is kind of missed. ��
    Too true. I've been treading lightly on CM lately, realizing just how much the #1 buffoonery clown show channel on the net matters to me as cheap entertainment. I've consciously worried that if he leaves Youtube, this thread dies too most likely. Shudder. Like The Joker, his life isn't a tragedy. It's a comedy.

    He's down to the fumes that are reentering through the vapor recovery valve now. Nothing left in the tank. But he'll do something and he'll be back.

     
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    You’re right guys. He’s running on fumes and the gas tank is almost on empty. Fuck you Christopher Mitchell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RMS9 View Post

    I know the ultimate goal is to shut Chrissy down, but not having a video of his antics and reminding me that even when things are bad, they’re not as bad as Chrissy’s life, is kind of missed. 😂

    You will be fine RMS. Chances of you winning the Powerball are greater than that of Chrissy never uploading again.
    Lol...so true, Mr. Dime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Thanks BD! Here is the guys full video.

    This guy isn't a winning player. I also doubt he was averaging $600 per hand and then couldn't get a comp room extended at Palace Station, of all places, during a pandemic.

    If he's betting like that, why is he spending time at a shithole like Palace Station in the first place? Chrissy is only there because they won't let him take his "students" on the strip anyomre!

    Notice this guy doesn't have any kind of +EV plan to win at baccarat. He just sits there and fires. Then he criticizes Chrissy's betting strategy, as if his own is any better. Guess what? You're both -EV and are going broke if you are trying to support yourselves this way.

    There is possibly a way to beat baccarat without edge sorting (the thing Ivey did via his highly skilled betting partner). JSTAT on this forum claims to have come up with a card counting system for baccarat. I never bothered to analyze it, but I will say JSTAT is a pretty sharp guy, so it's possible he was onto something. At least he had a method which could possibly be +EV. LOL @ just playing the game normally and thinking that "betting systems" will win money for you, though. That's what these this guy and Chrissy are doing.

    At least this guy isn't selling any systems, though. So I'm not going to be too hard on him. If he just likes making videos about his baccarat exploits, I have no problem with that.

    Regarding comps, it is true that hosts have a bug up their ass regarding giving you more than 4 nights. I've run into that wall, as well, and often for nonsensical reasons, after putting in a lot of action. I can discuss that later if you like.

    Agreed.

    I think it funny as well how these "system" players criticize Chrissy's choice of bet selection. The best part was when he was criticizing Chrissy for betting player over banker when they were on what he referred to as the "TAIL". He is referring to what is called the "Dragons tail". This Dragons tail is a streak of either banker or player in the form of a "TAIL" LOL. Yes, its true, but they really believe this shit. So in his eyes Chrissy bet the wrong bet - betting against the "TAIL" LOL. So yeah, he is not an advantage player.


    There is a system that can beat baccarat when counting or with EOR (Effect of removal). However the slight gain isn't worth the money you have to risk. Gaming Mathematician Elliot Jacobson did an analysis of counting baccarat with perfect computer play based on what cards have been removed from the deck. Knowing the remaining deck composition, the edge you could gain would be very very slight. If you placed $1,000 bets you could make $1.70 per shoe. So if your willing to wager $80,000 in bets per hour you can earn yourself an hourly rate of $1.70. Keep in mind if your betting 1k hands with a razor thin edge, you will need a $500K bankroll to sustain the ups and downs while getting through the variance (With such a small edge, that may never happen). So no one in their right mind would ever do this, you could make more with a savings account.


    As far as JSTAT, Elliot Jacobson analyzed his method back in 2013. His conclusion was that he not only did NOT have an edge, but his method actually ADDED to the house edge by a few tenths of a percent. JSTAT replied that he would be willing to challenge Jacobson with a 10K bankroll at one of Jacobson's online affiliated casinos using the exact same parameters that Jacobson used in the analysis. Jacobson posted STAT's twitter response on the same page he did the analysis. Not sure if Jacobson took him up on the challenge. As far as I am aware Jacobson's analysis have been spot on. Many of them confirmed by Michael Shackleford (Wizard of Odds).

    Now back to Chrissy. I think even if Chrissy moves on to something else, I don't think he will ever voluntary give up the Bac gig. Even under the worst circumstances he will get 1 or 2 suckers per month as residual income. He will recycle his videos, and anyone that mentions in the comments that its old material will be instantly deleted. Hopefully, YouTube takes action sooner than later.

     
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    Yeah, there's also the factor that Chrissy himself is addicted to baccarat (and to posturing as the "Baccarat King"), so it's not just about money.

    Chrissy isn't just the owner of the Scam -EV Baccarat System, he's also a client!

     
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    Folks , being an avid and passionate reader of this thread Chrissy is usually reactive in responding to slights on his honour
    e.g Cash counting machine re-appears , bundles of cash 💵 when suggested he is down to his last thousand and so it goes on , this is just a gentle prod Chrissy for some new material from one of my favourite bands

    🎶This is the end , beautiful Stacy
    This is the end , my only Chrissy
    The end of 400 bucks paying clients
    The end of fully comped hotels
    The end🎶

    🎵 No money or black Lambo
    The End
    I have to look at your eyebrows again🎵

    🎶Lost in a Vegas wilderness of pain
    And all my punters are insane
    All my punters are insane
    Waiting for the winning hand
    There’s a manifest on the edge of town
    Ride the strip highway
    Weird scenes in the high limit bathroom
    Ride the highway north Chrissy🎶

    Look forward to the next Chrissy chronicle tomorrow 👍
    Full on manifest please , 50 large , cash counter , high limit rooms , 12 paying guests , vegan steak 🥩 dinner , the works.

     
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    I released this video in 2016 regarding beating baccarat and blackjack via card counting. The blackjack stuff can be backed-up with math. Regarding Jacobson, I used his Dragon 7 side bet at EZ Baccarat analysis and added a Ten Count (without the aces). "Nuff Said!".


     
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    Sharing my love of card counting and casinos without charge. https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    I released this video in 2016 regarding beating baccarat and blackjack via card counting. The blackjack stuff can be backed-up with math. Regarding Jacobson, I used his Dragon 7 side bet at EZ Baccarat analysis and added a Ten Count (without the aces). "Nuff Said!".
    JSTAT, would be interested in your opinion on the many pattern recognition system guys that include no card counting.

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    I really do believe the silence has partly to do with his FB group. Maybe yet another group has been torpedoed. He says on his videos he does his cam show for them every Sunday Night. If things were FUBAR in the group and he continued to upload videos that would be a problem.

    So still no new video and comments are being deleted. Just this photo uploaded 2 days ago, which appears to be in front of the Chinese Restaurant at the Gold Coast next to the Sportsbook. This to me is an old photo. When I zoom in to the money it doesn’t look right. This photo can be really old. Did he really bring that much fake money into a casino for a photo? I think there is a chance this was when Chrissy was working with 10-12K.

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    Then you got this new mark in the comments. Seems like a real person not a burner. Has a weird channel with uploads of Video games that literally have 0 views. Really fucking strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    I released this video in 2016 regarding beating baccarat and blackjack via card counting. The blackjack stuff can be backed-up with math. Regarding Jacobson, I used his Dragon 7 side bet at EZ Baccarat analysis and added a Ten Count (without the aces). "Nuff Said!".

    Yes, the Dragon 7 SIDE BET is beatable.

    In Jacobson's analysis at a true count of +4 or higher a 8.03% edge can be gained. About 9% of the hands will have this opportunity to bet. Placing $100 bets on the Dragon, you will earn just under $60 per shoe in EV. Placing $500 bets you will earn about $300 per shoe in EV. Placing $1,000 bets you will earn about $600 per shoe in EV. The huge issue with all this is the bankroll needed. You are targeting a 40-1 payout, when your true odds become around 39-1. You will have massive variance. I'm not going to do the math, but with $500 bets you will need a bankroll deep into the 6 figures.
    As far as the main Baccarat bet (Player or Banker), there isn't a known countable method than can earn anything more than a few cents per shoe. There are many illegal methods that can beat the game (Card marking, False shuffle, etc.), but that's another topic.

    JSTAT,

    I see you have added a "Ten Count without aces" to the above method, have you done an analysis on how much this adds to the player edge for the Dragon 7 side bet?

    Is it now your opinion that Jacobson's analysis of your system for the main game is correct, or mostly correct?



    When Jacobson published his analysis and showed that the Dragon 7 side bet was beatable, this caused a lot of waves in the gambling community. There actually were people beating the Dragon 7 side bet prior to his analysis, however very few people were doing it and it definitely wasn't commonly known.


    Here is a video of Jacobson talking about the waves it created:






    This is a funny quote from the video:

    Elliot approached the CEO of the company who owns the rights and markets EZ baccarat with the Dragon 7 side bet after he published his analysis online.

    This is what the CEO said, "I have a 140 messages from directors of table games, from casinos around the world all asking what the F*** is wrong with your game, and I have to call each one of these people back. Thanks a lot." LOL

    There were rumors a competing game distributor put Jacobson up to publishing this so they would pull EZ bac from the gaming floor and go with their game. There was never any evidence of these being true, and Eliot denies it.

     
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    If you guys need something to listen to (with the dearth of Chrissy videos lately), a guy that's been mentioned in this thread before actually put out a pretty succinct video today about our favorite steroid-addled buffoon, Chrissyboi. I don't think he's one of "us" but who knows...he's pretty pissed and plans and entire whole "Season 2" of upcoming vids with the series called "Correcting Christopher". Bravo "Coach 1am"!:


     
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    Guys, he is back. The latest video is a gem, he's talking directly to us. His life, truly, is a comedy (there's not a lick of tragedy in there). Yes, Christopher Mitchell is really The Joker:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Wars View Post
    Guys, he is back. The latest video is a gem, he's talking directly to us. His life, truly, is a comedy (there's not a lick of tragedy in there). Yes, Christopher Mitchell is really The Joker:


    I don’t think I can do it tonight but I just have to respond to the absolute bullshit in this video. 2 things real quick

    1) Not one person on this thread has profited a wooden nickel doing this. To call any of us scam artists is not even worthy of a response. If I wanted to build a YouTube channel I don’t need his name to do so. The videos are to bring awareness, give me an outlet and I enjoying making them. Period...end of story.

    2) No one has ever said that you buy-in with the prop money dumb dumb. We have evidence of you flashing it in the past. You use(d) it as a tool in your vids when you didn’t have enough actual cash fucko. Of course you don’t buy in with that. Fucking nonsense. It’s not rocket science.

    Response coming when I can get to it. Fucking guy.

     
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    This is how jealous I am of you Chrissy-

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