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    There is no chance Chrissy is making 70k a month from BOL. I know what is out there and written about. BOL is not going to chip off that kind of money to him. Remember, the third party also needs to make money as well. If Chrissy’s People lose 100K how much of that do you think BOL would be inclined to take out of their profits? Where else is Chrissy going to go? BOL has all the leverage in this situation. Chrissy needs them way more than they need him. BOL doesn’t need to be transparent because this is shady affiliate shit and not your everyday bettors.

    I highly doubt Chrissy is bringing in anything approaching 200K in Net Gaming Revenue a month. He would have to be bringing them such immense volume and turnover to approach that. Even if he was, BOL would “hold over” much of the funds & do the math in such ways to justify not paying him anything approaching that sum.

    Add his recent temperament and the private inner circle pushing? No way Chrissy is pulling in that kind of dough. Chrissy is a greedy fuck, but if he was making such absurd amounts from the affiliate link then why have a $1000 or even a $250 barrier to entry? Get the people signed up and let the money flow.

    It’s still a problem and it needs to be stopped. This is just my opinion, but I am pretty sure he is making a few grand a month through the affiliate program.

     
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    Just to go one step further. What you see regarding compensation for affiliates are essentially advertisements. To get people pumped up at the idea of being an affiliate and how much they could actually make doing so. But once it’s time to talk turkey and they hammer out the details, the third party administrator works in their cut & BOL explains how the math & compensation structure work…well, let’s just say that 35% gets whittled down a fuckton.

    I was in CR when a negotiation between a smaller Offshore book looking to be acquired by a large Offshore book was happening. Let’s just say every meeting, every phone call, every single day the larger book would come up with some new reason to lower what they were willing to pay. Will the customers leave? The numbers aren’t what they seem to be? What assurances to do we have that all your players will follow and continue to bet at the same rate? Etc, etc, etc.

    This is not directly analogous to the Chrissy affiliate situation. But remember who we are dealing with here. The BOL domain could be blocked to Americans by the DOJ tomorrow. It’s all very slippery. They wouldn’t want that to happen right after they just sent a piece of shit like Chrissy 70K of Bitcoin.

    *Just to be clear I had no financial stake in either of these books. But I was staying with someone who did and was updated pretty much everyday on how it was going down.
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    Maybe this time he laundered 2 bitcoins instead of 1 for somebody and used the leftover to pump up his BOL account.


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    Just my two cents, but this is all just posturing by Chrissy to get people to come to his Birthday Booty Bash for the Circle Jerks. The word is out that he had no money last time, so he has to put on this dog and pony show for new suckers as well as current ones in the Inner Circle Jerk. If they have no doubt that he won’t pull another stunt like last time, a good amount will show up.

    He’s probably saving money in other ways. No more fancy hotel suites in Vegas, no more fancy five star dinners, no toys for his son’s birthday a week or two ago. He can blab all he wants that they celebrated, but it this were true there would be footage on full view with gifts, cake, party favors and entertainment for his sons 2nd birthday.

    But we got NONE of that, just a passing mention on a video and back to the lame roulette videos where he talks down to his fanboys who doubt him in any way! He is doubling down on this upcoming birthday booty bash scam and probably using what resources he has left to book a suite, that probably isn’t comped, and trying to get as many suckers to commit to attending like he did last time.

     
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      JeffDime: I would say Red Rock but he doesn’t want the suckers anywhere near Summerlin and the Condo for when everyone loses their asses. Desert Hills it is…
      
      TheRivers: Ellis Island Casino all the way.
      
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    There is no chance Chrissy is making 70k a month from BOL. I know what is out there and written about. BOL is not going to chip off that kind of money to him. Remember, the third party also needs to make money as well. If Chrissy’s People lose 100K how much of that do you think BOL would be inclined to take out of their profits? Where else is Chrissy going to go? BOL has all the leverage in this situation. Chrissy needs them way more than they need him. BOL doesn’t need to be transparent because this is shady affiliate shit and not your everyday bettors.

    I highly doubt Chrissy is bringing in anything approaching 200K in Net Gaming Revenue a month. He would have to be bringing them such immense volume and turnover to approach that. Even if he was, BOL would “hold over” much of the funds & do the math in such ways to justify not paying him anything approaching that sum.

    Add his recent temperament and the private inner circle pushing? No way Chrissy is pulling in that kind of dough. Chrissy is a greedy fuck, but if he was making such absurd amounts from the affiliate link then why have a $1000 or even a $250 barrier to entry? Get the people signed up and let the money flow.

    It’s still a problem and it needs to be stopped. This is just my opinion, but I am pretty sure he is making a few grand a month through the affiliate program.
    Chrissy has already shown how bad he is at math that they could say that 3% of 10k is $200 and he'd be "hurr durr, I conned them out of an extra $50, hurr durr".
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
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    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    He even lies when he doesn’t need to. When that commenter challenged him about how his balance rose by about 3K and Chrissy said he won the 3K playing Roulette. Well actually he got 1333 of that in a different way. When we saw the 5K balance he had just placed 2K in sports bets (Tampa and SF Giants). He lost the Giants bet but the Tampa bet returned 1333 to his balance. That would have put him in the 6000-6500 range. No I don’t think he won the other 2K….but why even say you won 3K off camera on Roulette when you can easily justify where 1333 of the increase came from? SMH

     
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    I wonder if he is really sports betting? That could run through his cash real quick with his progressive system and the way he loves to bet large favorites on the moneyline. It also could turn his inner circle against him real quick because those loses add up fast and its not some "5k bankroll lets try to win $64 a day bullshit."

    The sports betting is absolutely the most absurd thing he could do, that narcissistic personality disorder has been getting in his way his whole life. He is simply too uneducated to see it.

     
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      BedWetterBettor: I think it’s a pooled bet from the Circle Jerks. He hounds them for money and guarantees he will return with interest. Then he tries to sell them the picks next week so they can “try” for themselves and when they lose, he says “next time bet with us”
      
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    Balance at the end of last video ended in .32
    Balance today ended in .61. It’s possible to win .29 in Roulette. Isn’t it?? :-)
    Last edited by TheRivers; 10-20-2021 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Balance at the end of last video ended in .32
    Balance today ended in .61. It’s possible to win .29 in Roulette. Isn’t it?? :-)
    mc17 has asked a very similar question as a comment on today's video, we'll see if it gets deleted or answered.

    My pick *ramble ramble* sports bets but only that one time *ramble ramble*
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
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    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Balance at the end of last video ended in .32
    Balance today ended in .61. It’s possible to win .29 in Roulette. Isn’t it?? :-)
    And he did miss a couple days of posting too, didn’t he? So that would make sense if he missed a day or two of posting (he’ll say he’s been so busy, but we all know the truth) and was trying to find funds to deposit back into his account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRivers View Post
    Balance at the end of last video ended in .32
    Balance today ended in .61. It’s possible to win .29 in Roulette. Isn’t it?? :-)
    mc17 has asked a very similar question as a comment on today's video, we'll see if it gets deleted or answered.

    My pick *ramble ramble* sports bets but only that one time *ramble ramble*
    Turns out he went with a curt "Yes, thats why its called the ROULETTE challenge".

    If someone wants to rape him over another lie, here's a good spot to it.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

    PFA Rookie of the Year Awards
    2012: The Templar (unknown)
    2013: Jasep $5000+
    2015: Micon's gofundme legal defense $3k begging for 100k:
    2018: 4Dragons
    2019: Dutch Boyd: Mike Postle
    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2022: BDubs leaks chums club info
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post

    mc17 has asked a very similar question as a comment on today's video, we'll see if it gets deleted or answered.

    My pick *ramble ramble* sports bets but only that one time *ramble ramble*
    Turns out he went with a curt "Yes, thats why its called the ROULETTE challenge".

    If someone wants to rape him over another lie, here's a good spot to it.
    I wish I could. But he blocked me a long time ago from commenting. LOL. Good thing is he reads this forum because he’s constantly showing his cards by commenting on things we talk about. So he’s well aware his list of haters is growing quicker than his fake subs that he buys.

     
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    Read Jeff Dime's post.

    It's very good. There is no chance Chrissy is pulling down $70k/month (or anything near it) in affiliate revenue. Jeff raised a great point -- if affiliate revenue was that lucrative for him, he'd be swinging the doors wide open to his inner circle, and not charging $250-$1000 for it.

    Jeff also touched on the fact that the 35% commission gets all kinds of subtractions for various claimed expenses on BOL's side, including deposit/withdrawal costs, bonus redemptions, etc.

    I don't believe Chrissy's inner circle is very large. Sure he says there's 185 members, and that's probably how many are in the Facebook group, but I'm guessing a high percentage of that consists of shills, fake accounts, and dormant accounts of those who joined and quit after losing. I simply don't believe that a large amount of new money is being deposited to BOL on a regular basis, via Chrissy's victims.

    I do think that PositiveVariance is correct that Chrissy seems to be getting some kind of regular infusion of money/bitcoin in the middle of the month. I don't believe it's from Big Daddy Foster, for multiple reasons. However, I do think it's coming from some third party.

    My best guest is that Chrissy found himself a whale who is willing to "invest" in his strategies. Maybe it's a gullible crypto community person (there's plenty of those). Maybe it's just a lonely old fool similar to Blowjob Bob, who wants to be part of something exciting. But that's really the best explanation -- there's some kind of agreement between Chrissy and a wealthy backer to send X amount of money on the 14th of each month, and then Chrissy will work his Colt Studios Magic, turn it into millions, and they'll share the profits.

    There are just too many signs that Chrissy still needs small income streams -- the inner circle advertisements, the constant posting of lame BOL roulette videos, the agitation when he loses a few hundred dollars... I don't think that money is his. It likely belongs to a backer, and then Chrissy's own money is whatever he hustles through his usual scams, plus whatever percentage of "profits" he earns the backer. Of course, he's likely been losing his ass for that backer, hence the reason he keeps receiving more BTC which he abruptly cahses out.

    If my theory is really true, this could spell the end of Chrissy. Up until now, he's been a small time gambling coaching scammer, but each individual victim would only lose low-4-figures to him maximum. The victims would often lose much more when utilizing his bunk "systems" in actual casinos, but that didn't go to Chrissy.

    However, here we might have an actual whale investing in Chrissy's strategies, based upon his falsely claimed results. Once this backer loses 6 figures or more (maybe that's already happened), he will eventually come to realize the truth, and will want justice. That's big enough potatoes for law enforcement to care about. Someone just has to find this person, convince him he's getting scammed, and get him to report it.

     
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    Something I remember from Economics class:
    The easier the barriers to entry into a business opportunity are, the more competition there will be. In turn making less profit.

    So there has been both theories for possibly supporting Chrissy doing well as an affiliate as well as many theories as to why it’s unlikely that he’s making serious money as an affiliate. This is a theory I thought of as to why it’s very unlikely he’s making anywhere close to what he claims.


    Let’s look at what Chrissy does to earn affiliate money (just affiliate type income from BOL only).

    We know exactly what Chrissy is doing to make affiliate income, we just don’t know how much he is making.
    1. He presents a -EV long term losing system as if it’s a winning system.
    2. He will record a session. If he wins, he post it to YouTube. If he lost, he scraps the video and it’s never seen.
    3. During the video he will tell lies regarding things such as Wealth, businesses, Christianity, lie about how your 2 year old “silent son” actually does speak, Ect.
    4. Use props in videos such as Money, family, co-signed vehicle, ect.
    5. Delete all negative comments.
    6. Lie about anything and everything.
    7. Rinse and repeat.

    Here’s the thing: Chrissy is not doing anything that 99% of the population can’t do.

    The only thing that Chrissy does that most will draw the line at is he is willing to LIE ABOUT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO EARN A BUCK. Most people will draw the line there even if it does mean earning large sums of money.

    Chrissy is not fooling anyone with half a brain. 99.99% don’t fall for his garbage. It’s the .01% that he targets, however I do realize with billions of people on this planet, you can do fairly well with that low of a percentage if you get the video in front of enough people.

    Chrissy would likely make a good car sales person or selling timeshares, sometime of that nature. Other than some sales/MLM skills and willing to lie through his teeth on camera, he is not doing anything that CAN’T BE SIMPLY DUPLICATED.

    I’m sure all of us that post here wouldn’t be willing to do what he does for any amount of money, because it’s wrong and we’re not scumbags. But if we wanted to, could we? Absolutely!

    Chrissy is not earning affiliate money because he has built a large following overtime. Yes, he has 25k or so subs, who knows how many are real vs. bought. He does not have a following that he is building upon. He’s essentially “turning over “ his following every 10 days or so. For whatever reason YouTube recommends his videos more than his fair share.

    Someone could open 10 YouTube channels. Each channel focuses on a different casino game (Blackjack, Roulette, Baccarat, Sports betting, ect.) In cities like Los Angeles, you have “Actors waiting for their big break” doing things like waiting tables. You would have almost no issue finding 10 “Actors” to play the part of a “Professional gambler”. You let them know they have to be willing to get in front of a camera and lie about anything and everything just as Chrissy does. Obviously, you will get many No’s, but you can eventually get people to do it. The pay? $200 a video. You film 5 back to back videos in a day. They make 1k per day (actually a few hours). Do that 3x per month with each person for 15 videos per account per month. Your cost is basically 3k per month per account. Chrissy has to be very careful to not advertise his BOL link, this cost him a lot of money. You wouldn’t have to worry about that as the actors and accounts are expendable. Hire 1 “real” type of sales person to reply to emails. So obviously you would have some logistical issues to work out but that would be the premise of it.

    Obviously the above would only work if there is a large amount of money actually being made by Chrissy as an affiliate. The above shows how easy it would be to duplicate the simple process that Chrissy has since we know 100% of what he is doing and exactly how he does it.

    The simplicity of his entire setup makes me question him making any serious amount of cash as an affiliate.

     
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    Well here’s a guy who clearly needs an education on what’s real and what isn’t.

    He thinks Chrissy wears fancy clothing?
    He thinks Chrissy is only offering a service and has never made anyone lose or has failed to deliver the service that the person paid for
    He thinks there are no videos out there of actual people who have exposed Chrissy for making them lose.
    He fails to see that when you call a gambling service “guaranteed to win 100% if the time” that this is a scam.

    Apparently he’s going to start filming himself using Chrissy’s Roulette strategy. Can’t wait to see how this works out.


     
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    I will keep this short and sweet. For the guy who made this dumb ass video. I having been posting my golf bets here for probably a little over a year. About 3 months ago another poster asked me to create something to make it easy to follow. So I created a 50K bankroll and posted the exact dollar figure and odds I was betting . I also included where I found the odds and typically what the odds were in other places. I have been as transparent about the bets as possible. The numbers are exact.

    I use actual dollar figures that mirror my actual bets. At times I have personally had more exposure because I would add to my bet at times like anyone else would do, but at no time did I record a number lower than my actual bet in real life. Here is the latest entry, but I update as much as possible. This is what truly being transparent about putting picks out there looks like. So this guy can STFU. Go martingale your columns and see where that takes you.

    *Also want to be clear. I don’t want to sell picks or become a tout. I wanted to add value to the forum and keep myself accountable. If I thought I was not +EV with my Golf picks, I would simply not post them. Not looking for any glory or pat on the back. Wanted to hopefully help others make some money and/or have a nice sweat. No other motive.

    I also lost 2K last week and likely to lose a grand this week. So I am not cherry picking my winning weeks, I am simply showing my latest entry.

    I also have been very reluctant to show any of this on this thread because I consider them unrelated. But when guys like this clown start making videos saying those making videos calling Chrissy a scammer are “idiots”, well this is what this idiot’s last 3 months of bets look like.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Bets for Oct 18-Oct 24(Week 12)

    Settled

    Euro Mallorca Open - Sam Horsfield $700 at +2500 (MGM) WD- VOID

    Current

    LPGA BMW - Lydia Ko $1,000 at +1600

    Start $50,000 Remaining $67,700 Current Week $0 Last Week $-2,000

    Total Win/Loss +$18,700

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    Horsfield withdrew. Universally a bet on the week of the tournament and withdraw before the start is a refund. Future bets for the Masters or US Open, etc is where you get fucked. Some books like Bet MGM are a pain in the ass and may not grade the VOID until after the tournament. But your money will be returned. Got booster today and gave blood so may just be the Lydia bet this week. She’s floated up to +1800 on BOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    I will keep this short and sweet. For the guy who made this dumb ass video. I having been posting my golf bets here for probably a little over a year. About 3 months ago another poster asked me to create something to make it easy to follow. So I created a 50K bankroll and posted the exact dollar figure and odds I was betting . I also included where I found the odds and typically what the odds were in other places. I have been as transparent about the bets as possible. The numbers are exact.

    I use actual dollar figures that mirror my actual bets. At times I have personally had more exposure because I would add to my bet at times like anyone else would do, but at no time did I record a number lower than my actual bet in real life. Here is the latest entry, but I update as much as possible. This is what truly being transparent about putting picks out there looks like. So this guy can STFU. Go martingale your columns and see where that takes you.

    *Also want to be clear. I don’t want to sell picks or become a tout. I wanted to add value to the forum and keep myself accountable. If I thought I was not +EV with my Golf picks, I would simply not post them. Not looking for any glory or pat on the back. Wanted to hopefully help others make some money and/or have a nice sweat. No other motive.

    I also lost 2K last week and likely to lose a grand this week. So I am not cherry picking my winning weeks, I am simply showing my latest entry.

    I also have been very reluctant to show any of this on this thread because I consider them unrelated. But when guys like this clown start making videos saying those making videos calling Chrissy a scammer are “idiots”, well this is what this idiot’s last 3 months of bets look like.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Bets for Oct 18-Oct 24(Week 12)

    Settled

    Euro Mallorca Open - Sam Horsfield $700 at +2500 (MGM) WD- VOID

    Current

    LPGA BMW - Lydia Ko $1,000 at +1600

    Start $50,000 Remaining $67,700 Current Week $0 Last Week $-2,000

    Total Win/Loss +$18,700

    ————

    Horsfield withdrew. Universally a bet on the week of the tournament and withdraw before the start is a refund. Future bets for the Masters or US Open, etc is where you get fucked. Some books like Bet MGM are a pain in the ass and may not grade the VOID until after the tournament. But your money will be returned. Got booster today and gave blood so may just be the Lydia bet this week. She’s floated up to +1800 on BOL.

    You’ve always been transparent, JD. Where can I follow your golf picks? Do you post them under a certain titled post?

     
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    This is why we need(especially in the United States) to teach mathematics better in school.

    The martingale is actually the best system a con man can use in gambling. If I was a con-artist gambler i would choose blackjack over roulette; for one when you're progressing ur bets you could always hit a BJ I would also encourage doubling down then of course teaching basic strategy. The point being is just to keep the gambler on a high as long as possible. Tell them to start with a 2k bankroll, find an online room with .50 bets and a max of 1k. I believe you would need to lose 12 in a row to bust. Then of course that daily limit(haha) lets say $50.

    Point being, your sucker will win for long stretches he/she will recruit more and more people for you. Then when the disaster finally hits it will be too late. He/she has recruited for you and if you are even more lucky he/she will be too embarrassed to talk about the loss or even hopefully blame themselves and continue....

    Chris has the ball rolling. Going to be tough to stop him. What very well could end up killing him is that he is a compulsive gambler himself. He is obviously(to me) still gambling his own money or his videos would come out like clock work at around the same time each day. His videos come out randomly based off if he needs to re-deposit funds.

    I know i have stressed this before; but he has a money making business right now. He can't maximize it because of his limited intelligence and education. Being a con-man(loser) all his life he knows how to sell garbage(dreams). The martingale is basically a dog chasing his tail. One just has to keep making one believe he almost has it; martingale is such a good system for that; you are always up until you lose everything.

    edit: the worst thing that could happen is if BOL gives him an affiliate account for his gambling. It will look real but he won't be losing any of his own money. Sodapoppin did this; watch his videos and how he re-acts to losing, one would swear he was losing his own funds but it was all an act. If Chris is even half the actor he can really maximize his funds. If the narcissistic personality will allow him to admit to himself that he can't beat a -ev game.
    Last edited by crudebar; 10-21-2021 at 11:25 AM.

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    Well here’s a guy who clearly needs an education on what’s real and what isn’t.

    He thinks Chrissy wears fancy clothing?
    He thinks Chrissy is only offering a service and has never made anyone lose or has failed to deliver the service that the person paid for
    He thinks there are no videos out there of actual people who have exposed Chrissy for making them lose.
    He fails to see that when you call a gambling service “guaranteed to win 100% if the time” that this is a scam.

    Apparently he’s going to start filming himself using Chrissy’s Roulette strategy. Can’t wait to see how this works out.

    This guy is definitely a CM fanboy. Been seeing comments that have come in and the ones that have called out evidence that CM is a scammer have already been hidden.

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    You’ve always been transparent, JD. Where can I follow your golf picks? Do you post them under a certain titled post?
    It's listed in the Flying Stupidity section:

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ing-thread-***

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