Blatant Gambling Scammer Christopher Mitchell (YouTube/Baccarat/Roulette/Sportsbetting)

[zealanddonk]

Low Roller Baccarat video pretty uneventful.

Admits to losing "maybe 5 times a year" and plays everyday.

Light circle jerk pitch. Thanked the suckers for coming to Vegas.

Less interesting than even the room tour

Definiely agreed.

He spiced in some "hollar at ya boy" because he was winning very low amounts.

I think Chrissy may have been sniffing glue or otherwise doing things to make hmself even more retarded of late.

His great new system for low rollers is
bet $1 if you lose, bet $15 next
Dont worry there's only a 3% chance you'll lose $281 [which is a lot for a low roller].

[Dan Druff]

OFFER TO BRANDON WINGERTNER


This is a serious offer. I'm not trolling here. It is very possible that you're a decent guy, and just are backing the wrong horse.

Therefore, I would like to offer you a respectful phone call where I will explain the following:

1) I am not a "dead broke jealous hater", but rather a successful poker player and advantage casino gambler over the past 2 decades, and can prove it to you.

2) Christopher Mitchell's strategies are mathematically destined to lose, and I can prove it to you.

3) Christopher Mitchell is not a winning gambler, and I can direct you to the exact proof you can ask him to show, in order to prove whether he is or not.

4) Christopher Mitchell's main form of income comes from people like you, who falsely believe in him.



I am not looking to shame you or make you feel bad. I promsie to refrain from any insults or criticism during the phone call. I will also promise not to record the call, and not to reveal any details of the phone call to the public.

If interested, please text me at (775) 372-8355. Please consider this. By the way, I don't want a penny from you, and will not accept any money from you at any time. Just in case Chrissy tries to claim I'm trying to "steal" you as a student, or some nonsense like that.

Get at me.

[PositiveVariance]

I would message Brandon on Facebook messenger. I’m not sure if he is directly aware of this forum. It can be revealed in the first message to him, even if he blocks you he will be curious enough to take a look at the forum. Just to verify that he is aware of a forum with over 7,000 post about CM and his related scams.

It’s possible that he already is aware of the forum, but it’s also possible he is not aware of it.

I know someone else messaged him on Facebook, but they didn’t mention anything about this forum that I’m aware of.

I think if he is able to read some of the forum, uninterrupted by CM saying they are just haters - He may read something that he will begin to question CM and that may be the opening to the reasonable doubt he needs.




Something does tell me, even though I believe it is a very small chance he turns on Chrissy, if he does he probably wouldn’t admit he was wrong and the “Haters” were right - He would just quietly disappear like TJ did.

[PositiveVariance]

Another thing, Brandon has a fairly uncommon last name. He does claim to be self employed. Since his name is uncommon, if a future employer Googles his name and they find this - He is fucked. They likely wouldn’t hire a guy that can’t see past one of the most elementary scams. Also, I’m sure one day he will date again. A girl (or guy) will automatically not consider him after realizing he fell for Chrissys scam, repeatedly! However, if a gold digger comes across his profile in a dating website, she may try to take him to the cleaners. Brandon, these are things you need to think about when you associate yourself with a scammer.

[crudebar]

Guys. I get it(i really do). But lets not victim shame too hard here....he is a naive lonely guy. He isn't the one doing the scamming. He is a victim that Chris is taking advantage of.

He considers Chris a friend, and he is defending his friend. It's that simple. I think the gambling part comes in a far 2nd. (for him)

I don't mean to be preachy. Just my take. Carry on.

[BedWetterBettor]

Guys. I get it(i really do). But lets not victim shame too hard here....he is a naive lonely guy. He isn't the one doing the scamming. He is a victim that Chris is taking advantage of.

He considers Chris a friend, and he is defending his friend. It's that simple. I think the gambling part comes in a far 2nd.

I don't mean to be preachy. Just my take. Carry on.

While I agree he probably is a victim, he’s also aware of the scamming practices and still continues to support him! He puts his head in the sand when confronted about past incidents and all the contradictions about his hero.

And keep in mind, he knew people were upset about having to pay again after being promised they’d never have to pay again for membership! Rat Boy paid the initial $500-$1000, then signed the NDA and paid again, then agreed to pay $99 for at least 2 months, and just recently paid $500 AGAIN!! In addition to all the merch and losses, plus travel expenses!!

He did this all willingly and defended CM to the group and people like Bart who caught on to the scheme. He even said idiotic things like “I’d pay $10,000 for the info Chrissy is giving us because it’s so valuable!?!?” This is not behavior of a normal person and sounds more like someone trying to help him scam money off suckers after getting suckered himself!

He deserves to be made fun of and if he’s dumb enough to empty his wallet for his idol Chrissy Prescott, then he asked for everything he gets!

[crudebar]

Guys. I get it(i really do). But lets not victim shame too hard here....he is a naive lonely guy. He isn't the one doing the scamming. He is a victim that Chris is taking advantage of.

He considers Chris a friend, and he is defending his friend. It's that simple. I think the gambling part comes in a far 2nd.

I don't mean to be preachy. Just my take. Carry on.

While I agree he probably is a victim, he’s also aware of the scamming practices and still continues to support him! He puts his head in the sand when confronted about past incidents and all the contradictions about his hero.

And keep in mind, he knew people were upset about having to pay again after being promised they’d never have to pay again for membership! Rat Boy paid the initial $500-$1000, then signed the NDA and paid again, then agreed to pay $99 for at least 2 months, and just recently paid $500 AGAIN!! In addition to all the merch and losses, plus travel expenses!!

He did this all willingly and defended CM to the group and people like Bart who caught on to the scheme. He even said idiotic things like “I’d pay $10,000 for the info Chrissy is giving us because it’s so valuable!?!?” This is not behavior of a normal person and sounds more like someone trying to help him scam money off suckers after getting suckered himself!

He deserves to be made fun of and if he’s dumb enough to empty his wallet for his idol Chrissy Prescott, then he asked for everything he gets!

He is an idiot, no question. If he is involved in the scam and is benefiting from it in someway---he deserves what he gets.

I am just not positive he is involved.

[crudebar]

I gotcha guys. I am just starting to lean that these guys are more desperate and lonely then they believe in Chris. They only leave when they run out of funds or financially they just can no longer take the hit. This is why close to nobody(even in that cult) travels to meet him or even participates in his contests. They want to pay the bare min.(most) just to stay a part of a group.

Just why I think to consistently show them math won't accomplish much of anything. They are able to google search themselves and see odds.

[BedWetterBettor]

I gotcha guys. I am just starting to lean that these guys are more desperate and lonely then they believe in Chris. They only leave when they run out of funds or financially they just can no longer take the hit. This is why close to nobody(even in that cult) travels to meet him or even participates in his contests. They want to pay the bare min.(most) just to stay a part of a group.

Just why I think to consistently show them math won't accomplish much of anything. They are able to google search themselves and see odds.

It’s the same logic that Chrissy and all degenerate gamblers use to justify their methods, “well I won Last time, so I just need to keep trying til I win it back!” They only focus on the positive sessions and neglect all negative ones!

With martingale betting schemes, we know there will be more positive sessions, it’s just the profit may not be positive. These clowns can’t accept that and will only believe that winning is One bet away!

Remember that Brandon was the ONLY one in that leaked group chat from Bart who was happy with paying more for their lifetime membership! But he can’t even tell people how much is allegedly profiting from this “million dollar advice”? If he was legit winning or ahead at all, he’d be able to prove it or at least shoot off a fictitious number like his hero Kyle. But he can only talk about Value of the money he spent and not an actual figure, meaning he’s a loser like his midget mentor!

[zealanddonk]

Chrissy could have saved $18k by just coming here and talking with us jealous douchebag haters.

He claims he doesnt know how to go from $150k a month to $250k a month.
According to his own colouring in book, he just needs a bankroll of $177k and grow it by just 3% every day.

We know he has well in excess of $177k in his gambling account, so why isnt he capable of doing this?


Speaking of colouring in books, either Brandon isnt gambling daily [which is possible] or he's had a few too many "Day 0" situations.
Will be interesting if Brandon does come here, sees Mike's backstory and then takes action or lets himself be pushed out.

[Dan Druff]

You'd actually be surprised how many gamblers believe in systems, pattern betting, or luck-pressing, and believe they can defy mathematics.

I like to tell a certain story on radio about a friend of my 2000s girlfriend who got a ride from me to Vegas, and asked for gambling advice. She knew how to play the casino games, but was a major ploppy and knew little about odds or anything like that.

Since there was no way I could teach her +EV gambling during a drive to Vegas (nor did she have the interest to concentrate hard enough to learn it), I decided to just keep my advice really simple, to minimize her losses.

I asked what game she mostly played, and she said blackjack.

"Don't play 6:5 blackjack", I told her. This was at a time when 6:5 was at some casinos in Vegas, but 3:2 could easily be found in a lot of places at low stakes, including on the strip.

She asked what 6:5 blackjack was, and why it was bad. I gave her a short explanation, basically pointing out that, if you were to bet $10 and hit a blackjack, you would only get $12 instead of $15, and basically the casino is "reaching into your pocket and stealing $3 from you" every time you hit a BJ. I told her that those add up over time, and result in a lot bigger loss than you otherwise would have. She said she fully understood, and would refuse to play those games.

Two days later, I was strolling through a casino, and what do I see? She's playing a 6:5 game. I asked her why she was doing that, given our earlier conversation. She said that the 3:2 blackjack games were "unlucky", and she decided to try the 6:5 game at a casino which has always been "luckier" for her.

This woman, while not a genius, also wasn't a moron. She ran her own business, was moderately successful, and could otherwise hold a fairly intelligent conversation with you. However, that all went out the window when it came to gambling and odds.

These are the type of people who sign up for Chrissy's services, and suspend any skepticism regarding the accuracy of what he's telling them.

I am still very curious about what the story is with Brandon, given how long he's been with Chrissy. Surely he must be losing his ass by now. Offer's still open, Brandon.

[crudebar]

Chrissy could have saved $18k by just coming here and talking with us jealous douchebag haters.

He claims he doesnt know how to go from $150k a month to $250k a month.
According to his own colouring in book, he just needs a bankroll of $177k and grow it by just 3% every day.

We know he has well in excess of $177k in his gambling account, so why isnt he capable of doing this?


Speaking of colouring in books, either Brandon isnt gambling daily [which is possible] or he's had a few too many "Day 0" situations.
Will be interesting if Brandon does come here, sees Mike's backstory and then takes action or lets himself be pushed out.

0 percent chance he paid the 18k. At best he paid the $1,500. He saw it was being offered for 18k over the year so simply said that to look like a big shot to his brain dead cult.

[TheRivers]

Chrissy with a mirror photo of himself today on Instagram. As result his Hugo Boss shirt reads SSOB…which I guess is sort of fitting.

[BedWetterBettor]

Chrissy with a mirror photo of himself today on Instagram. As result his Hugo Boss shirt reads SSOB…which I guess is sort of fitting.

Fixed it!



Also says he’s “traveling”, so another Keith Craft scam seminar or is having a conjugal visit in the slammer with Mike the Meth Head??


Or traveling back to planet Remulak to meet Beldar??

[J T]

You'd actually be surprised how many gamblers believe in systems, pattern betting, or luck-pressing, and believe they can defy mathematics.

Just look at all the people calling CM a scammer who then turn around and go back to their -EV casino games. Victims who got scammed and learned basically nothing. People calling CM a scammer and then selling their own -EV system. It's laughable.

[zealanddonk]

Chrissy with a mirror photo of himself today on Instagram. As result his Hugo Boss shirt reads SSOB…which I guess is sort of fitting.

Fixed it!



Also says he’s “traveling”, so another Keith Craft scam seminar or is having a conjugal visit in the slammer with Mike the Meth Head??


Or traveling back to planet Remulak to meet Beldar??

CM definitely does not look like an unstable neo nazi FBI watch list member at all.

[PositiveVariance]

You'd actually be surprised how many gamblers believe in systems, pattern betting, or luck-pressing, and believe they can defy mathematics.

Just look at all the people calling CM a scammer who then turn around and go back to their -EV casino games. Victims who got scammed and learned basically nothing. People calling CM a scammer and then selling their own -EV system. It's laughable.

CM scamming and playing -EV games are 2 entirely different things.

How would someone calling CM a scammer then choosing to play a -EV casino game be related to one another?

[J T]

Just look at all the people calling CM a scammer who then turn around and go back to their -EV casino games. Victims who got scammed and learned basically nothing. People calling CM a scammer and then selling their own -EV system. It's laughable.

CM scamming and playing -EV games are 2 entirely different things.

How would someone calling CM a scammer then choosing to play a -EV casino game be related to one another?

A major element of the CM scam is convincing people they're going to make money playing -EV games but you don't need CM to believe you're going to make money playing -EV games.

[Dan Druff]

You'd actually be surprised how many gamblers believe in systems, pattern betting, or luck-pressing, and believe they can defy mathematics.

Just look at all the people calling CM a scammer who then turn around and go back to their -EV casino games. Victims who got scammed and learned basically nothing. People calling CM a scammer and then selling their own -EV system. It's laughable.

Yes, there are a few of those, but do any post here? I know we had that Nick guy awhile back, but he seems to be gone.

Also, there's a huge difference between knowingly playing -EV casino games for fun, and erroneously believing you're playing with the odds to win. I don't fault recreational gamblers bashing Chrissy, because as long as they know they're playing -EV games, then their criticism is still just as valid.

Most of the posters in this thread are either casino advantage players, or at least knowledgable gamblers who understand that systems/betting patterns don't work.

[Dan Druff]

CM is also worse than "making people feel they're playing +EV", because he's basically guaranteeing they'll become millionaires and win 99-100% of the time.

If someone were to ask me how to count cards in blackjack, I would explain that it's +EV, but the edge is small, the variance is high, and the long run is hard to achieve because you can't play long sessions without getting backed off. If I were to accurately teach a +EV blackjack counting system, but lie and claim it will win 99-100% of the time, I'd still be scamming people if I were charging for the lesson.