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  1. #1761
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    ship what odds would you give me on trump dropping out of the race


    also who would replace him on the ticket?

    pence?

    how would this even work?
    Depends on how late in the game he dropped out/died.

    If too late to replace his name on ballots (a month before the election), the RNC will announce their candidate and instruct their electors in each state to vote for that candidate if they win that state, but people will still be pulling levers that say Donald Trump.

    If between the convention and about a month before the election, the RNC will do the above but most ballots could be reformatted with the name of the RNC's candidate.

    If before the convention, the RNC will choose at their convention.

    There's no rule that says they have to choose Pence but who else would it be? Very few prominent Republicans are willing to have Trump's sloppy seconds right now. They'd rather push the reset button and plan for 2024 (when they will lose again).

     
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    also who would replace him on the ticket?

    pence?

    how would this even work?
    Pretty sure the devils helper would replace him (pence)

    So let me pose this question. Okay so its june 2027 and 2 people are running for president.One of the 2 is down in the polls by 10 points(like trump now)

    What would stop them from saying fuck this i quit and then allowing someone who might have a better chance of winning to take their spot?

    rinse repeat 2032 2036 ect ect
    Nothing. But if this happened and party insiders chose the candidate rather than the candidate chosen by that party's voters in the primaries, it will piss off a lot of that party's voters. Probably not a good idea.

    Also, if Pence replaced Trump right now he would lose even worse. He doesn't have the cult-like following that Trump has.
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    Would he lose your support if its confirmed that he turned a blind eye to bounties on the heads of American soldiers?
    Would I be upset about that? Yes.

    Would it make me think less of his time as President? Yes.

    Would it make me vote for a Democrat who is going to likely sit by and let the extreme forces within his party run the show and reshape America to exactly the opposite of what I want? No.

    I just said to someone yesterday, "If a Biden Administration would be like the Obama years, it wouldn't be my preference, but it wouldn't be unbearable. But I doubt that will happen. Democrats are controlled by the extreme faction now, and they will probably be running the show."
    Is that why they picked the most moderate of all the candidates in the primaries?
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    So they posted what Orange Cuck told them to post and you take it as the truth?

    Reality check: Trump was briefed in writing. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/u...gtype=Homepage

    Whether he read the brief or not is a different story, but either he read it and did nothing about it, or didn't read very important security briefings from the intelligence agencies. Either way a serious dereliction of duty.
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    you know perfectly well trump cant read, which probably solves the ancient mystery of how he managed to burn down his 400m inheritance.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs



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    I'm praying Trump never tweeted "Obama just tweeted his dick pic."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    ship what odds would you give me on trump dropping out of the race


    also who would replace him on the ticket?

    pence?

    how would this even work?
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    Liz Cheney
    Daddy Dick makes some phone calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    you know perfectly well trump cant read, which probably solves the ancient mystery of how he managed to burn down his 400m inheritance.
    He doesn’t have to read because it’s now confirmed he was also told by Bolton and others more than a year ago.

    Even Republican senators are asking “What did the president know and when did he know it?”

    What a fucking clown show.

    Druff if you vote for this madman you’ve gone full cultist.
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    i'm amazed that after around 50 years on this earth, you think like this. it's like you've never listened to politcians before. they make promises and then don't deliver.

    nothing radical will ever happen. probably not in your entire lifetime.

    lol at "the extreme faction running the show." if by running the show, you mean advancing literally no leftist bills, you're exactly right.

    do you have an example of legislation you think will pass a biden administration? i ask this to judge your sanity.

    and the fact that you think career politiciam biden -- of all people -- is the one politician to break out of this and finally start making serious changes is fucking mind boggling.

    i just can't.
    The time for "lip service" to the left ended when Biden effectively won the nomination.

    Once that occurs, the conventional wisdom is that you start giving lip-service the other way -- to make yourself seem LESS partisan, and attempt to snag votes from swing voters and the other side.

    Biden is not doing any of this. While he's not driving the conversation (or any conversation), he's maintaining the same woke rhetoric as before. I don't even think he believes in a lot of what he's saying, but it's become clear that he has neither the energy nor the desire to fight with his own party.

    It's surprising to me that you haven't seen how much the Democratic Party has changed in the past 5 years. Many of the insane extreme left positions which would have been laughed at in 2014 are now becoming party dogma today. I've even seen you complain about this.

    Pretty much every extreme position coming out of the left today is on the table if Biden wins and the Dems have the House and Senate (which is a very possible scenario now).

    The only area we're likely to see resistance is socialized medicine, and that's only because Biden was part of the administration which created our current healthcare system, so he doesn't want that torn down. It's likely he will reluctantly go along with all of the other shit.

    I think you're vastly underestimating how powerful the cult of the far left has become -- and how complicit the media has been.

    Did you expect laws legalizing abortion at any point for any reason? Major cities with abolished bail, where violent criminals are immediately released after arrest? Transgender 3-year-olds? Rioting and looting not just being permitted, but praised as just and necessary? Full college loan forgiveness at taxpayer expense? Famous people being constantly "cancelled" for (sometimes mild) things they said and did 10-30 years ago? Removing funding from already-cash-strapped big city police departments in favor of already-tried-and-failed social experiments?

    I didn't expect any of this, but here we are. The above has either become reality or is seriously being discussed.

    I'm not voting for a President who is refusing to make it clear that he won't support any of this crap.

    look, i'm with you on a lot of the specific items that you're upset about above. maybe all of them. i don't like them either, and yeah, i was really vocally against them on pfa.

    but, in my opinion, none of those things have a chance of being the subject of real federal legislation. remember that without term limits, the only thing these scumbags care about is getting re-elected. they're not going to make moves that will cause normal people to turn on them.

    don't underestimate their own greedy self-interests here. it's the reason the republicans couldn't get rid of obamacare, even when controlling every branch of government, and despite it being one of two key promises trump ran on.

    i also think you're underestimating the real damage trump, through his stupidity, is doing to the unwritten norms that bind this country together. like tweeting a white power video, for example. trump was either intentionally hateful or is too stupid to live.

    we can both go back to voting for republican candidates from time to time after trump is gone.

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    you know perfectly well trump cant read, which probably solves the ancient mystery of how he managed to burn down his 400m inheritance.
    He doesn’t have to read because it’s now confirmed he was also told by Bolton and others more than a year ago.

    Even Republican senators are asking “What did the president know and when did he know it?”

    What a fucking clown show.

    Druff if you vote for this madman you’ve gone full cultist.
    From a fat chaser to a cultist. How the might have fallen. Sad

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    you know, imma say it right now. if trump drops out and biden stays in, biden is making a pure ego/vanity driven decision that has a real potential blow up in everyones face, providing the republicans can find someone to carry the ball who isnt another vocal supporter of their right wing christian death cult brand.

    and in fairness thats a tall order at this point because if youre not a right wing christian death cultist, youre basically a pariah of the right.
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    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

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    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

    popcorn.gif

    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.
    lol EU

    China is all better because they say so, amirite?

    Almost zero deaths for months now! In a country of 1.4 billion!

    Obv they found a cure and haven't told anyone.

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    this is trump, promoting a tweet where his followers are chanting "white power"


    even dish, if he wasn't a complete drunk, would admit this one is bad.


    anyone that votes for this guy is an absolute monster
    It’s a bad look to retweet because of the white power guy, but that lady in black is an enormous asshole also, and a detriment and she makes the whole thing just a depressing and ugly scene.

    As an aside, I’m about ready to launch into a really long anecdote because the white power chant gets me thinking about how political extremism fucks you up and I just had a conversation about it this week.

    I was taking to my buddy the other night. He has two older brothers. My buddy is an educated successful guy, both his older brothers were trade guys. Both became very successful. One moved to Virginia and is a multi millionaire who owns a trade company. He lives in rural VA, but his company services the whole beltway.

    The other brother moved to Orange County. He also became super successful for a time.

    He just picked up and moved to LA one day on a whim in his mid twenties because he was a mess. He went from delivering the LA times as his first job to owning two homes and a company within two years. All before 30.

    I actually stayed with him when I was in Orange County. He was like a block from Huntington Beach, technically Westminster. I heard that’s gotten rough with Asian gangs, but it was decent at the time. He had a laid out house in Palm Springs. His buddy was the chef at Sonny Bono’s restaurant. I recall one of the strangest nightS ever drinking at that place when the Dinah Shore golf tournament was going on. Whole place was packed with lesbians , and not the hot type, and he was cooking all night and we were hammered and doing blow in the kitchen with all these bull dyke LPGA groupies who were there for the tournament. Good times. I ended up golfing a few days later with the bull dykes because the dude I was staying with was all work or partying 24/7 and wasn’t a golfer and I didn’t know anyone local yet.

    At my buddy’s brothers company he had like 25 Mexican laborers working for him back then. I remember watching the Pernell Whitaker-Chávez fight in a room with 25 Mexicans and me in like 1993. He got a call out somewhere but paid for it for them so it was me and them in his living room. It was one of the most controversial boxing decisions ever.

    It was a draw where everyone thought Whitaker won, but I’m in a room with 25 dudes from Mexico and I recall one looks at me and asked something like,” what you think ese?” I remember pondering my reply and choosing something like too close to call. I wasn’t about to say I thought Whitaker got robbed in that room. They all thought Chavez was robbed. He was a God.

    I eventually moved to Santa Monica on some numbered street. I can’t recall, maybe 34th?, the Grammy administration office was on my street whatever it was. I’d hang out with my buddy’s brother and his whole crew of Mexican dudes occasionally. He loved these cats and they loved him. He paid them really well for the time. Way above normal. Lot of them were making more than me as I was right out of college. At that time he was fine, crazy, but not in any extremist way. Business was thriving.

    I eventually moved back home and when we’d talk, he had gotten really into Michael Savage. He was syndicated on some station out there and I just watched him start to morph. He always was troubled and had drug issues. He just had this insane work ethic. Hardest working guy I ever knew. Would be up until 2Am and out working on one of his vans at 5 AM the next morning and work until dark. Every day. Seven days a week.

    I listened to him start to become radicalized. I’d say,” all your workers are Mexican? You love those guys?” It was strange. There was this disconnect. He had started to hate Mexicans while becoming wealthy with an entirely Mexican workforce. As I said, it was mutually beneficial. He’d be bitching to me on the phone about immigration while co-signing for a car for one of them. I don’t blame the politics of it. He wasn’t ever well. Just how a person becomes radicalized by extremism if they already have a screw loose very easily.

    He went through ups and downs that were somewhat self-inflicted through the years. Being in business in California involves big swings, and if you have a $1k a day coke habit, the swings are more pronounced.

    He just kept moving further from being like an alt right guy into the full white power thought as the decades passed. He showed up back here for awhile as his kid ran his business. Mid 40s at that point. He had a new swastika tattoo on his chest and I was like wtf, now it’s getting for real out of hand. He had gotten divorced and met some girl back here when visiting. He lived here for a few years and then headed back out after that ended quickly. He was over the edge by that point.

    My buddy flew out because everyone could see disaster coming. Got him into a psych. He wouldn’t take meds. Shot some dude who lived next door to him at one point over some property line dispute, but it wasn’t serious, and somehow skated on it. Then he was with some new train wreck girlfriend of his and I was on here talking to Vegas one night when I got the call he emptied a gun on her and was caught by police climbing over his neighbors fence to grab another gun as if she wasn’t dead enough already. I remember shooting Vegas a link to the OC Register, like look at this shit, I grew up with this dude and lived with him for a bit.

    So he’s been away for maybe 7 or 8 years now. He’s mid to late 50s, in Wasco State Prison in California. Medium security. Model prisoner.

    The guards all love him because he’s an insane worker. He wants to do everything. Still off his rocker though. We would talk back when he was in LA County jail, then for a time somewhere in Santa Anna and later at his first state prison, but eventually he just become too difficult to talk to and would lose his shit at me if I didn’t agree with all the white prison gang shit that he was fully immersed in. The calls just got less frequent and stopped.

    We quit talking before Trump, but they worship Trump. My buddy still talks to him obviously being his brother.

    It’s all Trump. Last week my buddy was talking to the brother in VA. That brother had been a heavy Trump guy also, but Trump has lost him the last few months. He talked to his brother in CA and made the mistake of telling his brother inside that he was thinking of voting for Biden.

    My buddy called him a few days later and his brother called him a race traitor who had turned his older brother against Trump and hung up. He just assumed because he’s a dem it was his fault, but he had quit taking politics with his brothers long ago.

    The other brother who had told him that said he told him he couldn’t sleep for two days after he told him that. He didn’t go hard at the brother who said it. That brother completely supports him and had laid out $80k for his defense when there was no real defense. He blames it all on my buddy. Unreal. He also supports him to a lesser degree despite not being a millionaire and having kids in school.

    Political extremism man. Doing 25-life in California and can’t sleep for two days over his brother not voting for Trump. That’s where we are at. I was thinking about how much general culture had become like prison culture when the riots were occurring. That dilemma where you might eventually have to pick a side.
    Mildly related to this...



    ...guy i follow on youtube. There's a small subsection of youtube prison accounts. I can't remember when i started following him, but i think he got big for being relation to China Mac or something like that. Anyway he's a goodhearted country dumbass from VA. I like him. Related to this post the racial politics in US prisons appear to be really fucked up only on the west coast. Meaning there's maybe a handful of white crips that don't run under the white car, where AB calls the shots.

    Elsewhere racial politics matter, but they're not set in stone. Direction of that isn't positive but greed has tendency to overrun hate. You probably should get rid of the prisoner underclass. Might have something to do with wealth created by the war on drugs.

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    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

    popcorn.gif

    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.
    lol EU

    China is all better because they say so, amirite?

    Almost zero deaths for months now! In a country of 1.4 billion!

    Obv they found a cure and haven't told anyone.
    lol guy believes China and Juicy Smollett obv

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

    popcorn.gif

    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.

    the markets are sooooo skittish rn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

    popcorn.gif

    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.
    'we need a separate thread for this but it's crazy how Chief Justice Roberts has sided with liberals on huge issues lately.

    the other day he sided with liberals in an abortion case that basically means roe v. wade isn't getting overturned unless trump gets more justices in

    he's a huge disappointment to the far right

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

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    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.
    'we need a separate thread for this but it's crazy how Chief Justice Roberts has sided with liberals on huge issues lately.

    the other day he sided with liberals in an abortion case that basically means roe v. wade isn't getting overturned unless trump gets more justices in

    he's a huge disappointment to the far right

    thing is hes not siding with liberals, hes just making strict constitutional rulings.

    the real news here is that the far right justices are somehow finding reasons not to.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    SCOTUS ruling on Trumps taxes coming any day now. Maybe today.

    popcorn.gif

    Also EU reopening and allowing travelers from China but not US.
    lol EU

    China is all better because they say so, amirite?

    Almost zero deaths for months now! In a country of 1.4 billion!

    Obv they found a cure and haven't told anyone.
    They just locked down 500k people yesterday because of 18 new cases. Been taking it pretty seriously compared to America.



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