**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[Tellafriend]

You do realize the people at the protests do not represent the majority of blacks who are are hardworking and go to church, etc. Sounds like you are stereotyping bro. Might want to check your privilege.

tellafriend, you can't possibly believe trump could get 25% of the black vote. it's just not possible you believe this.

No, not 25%, which is a shame for the reasons stated below. But again, my point was that what you are shown on television is for ratings and/or meant to stoke the fires that are burning. I have no problem believing 10-20% will vote for Trump, however.

The left has just as stereotypical views of blacks as does the right. There are far more of them that get up and go to work and want better lives for their families and the safety that comes with that than there are of them sitting around waiting for a handout or protesting something they don't even understand. A larger number of those hard working people have realized the democrats have sold them a bill of goods and vote R, hoping for a better lot the next go around.

We either need to get rid of the party system or have multiple parties like in some European nations. Far too many of us are taken for granted by this duopoly.

[blake]

In regards to polling, Biden is up by more than Clinton was at this point in the race. The polls were saying Clinton would win by 4, but she ended up only winning by 2. If the polls have the same error and Biden only wins by 6 instead of 8, he'll still win in a landslide.

Furthermore, there's fewer undecideds this year than there was in 2016. You'd much rather be down 37-43 than be down 44-50, even though the margin's the same and you'll just see them reported as "+6".

i really hate the narrative that the polls were way off cause trump won. a lot of the the polls weren't way off. clinton winning by 2 was well within the margin of error of a lot of them.

if anything, the complaint should be that national polls are worthless in an electoral college system, which is true.

[BCR]

tellafriend, you can't possibly believe trump could get 25% of the black vote. it's just not possible you believe this.

No, not 25%, which is a shame for the reasons stated below. But again, my point was that what you are shown on television is for ratings and/or meant to stoke the fires that are burning. I have no problem believing 10-20% will vote for Trump, however.

The left has just as stereotypical views of blacks as does the right. There are far more of them that get up and go to work and want better lives for their families and the safety that comes with that than there are of them sitting around waiting for a handout or protesting something they don't even understand. A larger number of those hard working people have realized the democrats have sold them a bill of goods and vote R, hoping for a better lot the next go around.

We either need to get rid of the party system or have multiple parties like in some European nations. Far too many of us are taken for granted by this duopoly.

Ten is theoretically possible even though it’s usually hard capped at high single digits, 8 or 9%, but anything approaching 20% is laughable.

There has been a virus which which hit their community harder, race riots, and the president is legit fighting for confederate flags.

That you think he could double the 9% someone like Reagan got seems crazy. How many black voters show isn’t set in stone, but how they vote is amazingly consistent, and I don’t think will change for the guy viewed as the most polarizing president ever.

The Dems have sold them a bill if goods, but they have a much better deal under Dems than Republicans. For those that work and those that don’t.

[duped_samaritan]

Biden needs run it up the middle and burn clock for now. Going to be some exciting hail marys in October if the stadium isn't burned to the ground. Vladimir has a great arm.

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

Biden needs run it up the middle and burn clock for now. Going to be some exciting hail marys in October if the stadium isn't burned to the ground. Vladimir has a great arm.

just grabbed these from sportsbook.com...interesting tidbits relative to the polling numbers...

and yes I know about margin of error in polling numbers...

think dish posted about this earlier in the thread...if you are diligent there is money to be made hedging the mongs on predictit relative to what you can get at a bookie..

[BetCheckBet]

Biden needs run it up the middle and burn clock for now. Going to be some exciting hail marys in October if the stadium isn't burned to the ground. Vladimir has a great arm.

just grabbed these from sportsbook.com...interesting tidbits relative to the polling numbers...

and yes I know about margin of error in polling numbers...

think dish posted about this earlier in the thread...if you are diligent there is money to be made hedging the mongs on predictit relative to what you can get at a bookie..

Even though I hate trump I took him at 3-1 last election to win. Good odds are good odds.

Those swing state odds look pretty nice right now.

With coronavirus spike just hitting it’s only gonna hurt trump.

My only question is if Biden drops out due to health do you lose the bet?

[duped_samaritan]

Probably wasting my time looking to find a spot where I bet one way for the general and then the opposite for maybe FL, WI, MI, yeah? I'm realizing it gets complicated real quick and you can't just plug it into a calculator.


unrelated:

Val Demmings at +450 or 500 seems good. With Amy dropping and basically tackling Warren on the way out it's either her or Kamala it seems like.


(i just saw her at +500 somewhere)

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

just grabbed these from sportsbook.com...interesting tidbits relative to the polling numbers...

and yes I know about margin of error in polling numbers...

think dish posted about this earlier in the thread...if you are diligent there is money to be made hedging the mongs on predictit relative to what you can get at a bookie..

Even though I hate trump I took him at 3-1 last election to win. Good odds are good odds.

Those swing state odds look pretty nice right now.

With coronavirus spike just hitting it’s only gonna hurt trump.

My only question is if Biden drops out due to health do you lose the bet?

3:1 is stealing...if he doesn't win you still made a fantastic bet...

from a PURELY GAMBLING PERSPECTIVE, the trump side is the way to go at this point...I just can't see wanting to lay a price on either of these guys...they are both too fucking prone to do stupid ass shit that is gonna hurt like fucking hell if you have laid a price on them...would be great for uncle joe to say or do something stupid, but not so fucking stupid that it would really cost him...I just have this feeling he's gonna do something stupid in the next few months and you are actually gonna be able to take a price on him rather than lay, which would be phenomenal if you got in on the trump side now...

im gonna guess if biden drops out you are SOL, but don't know for sure...same thing could happen on the trump side too...your best bet when placing bets on this specific election is to bet on party if you can rather than candidate...

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

Probably wasting my time looking to find a spot where I bet one way for the general and then the opposite for maybe FL, WI, MI, yeah? I'm realizing it gets complicated real quick and you can't just plug it into a calculator.


unrelated:

Val Demmings at +450 or 500 seems good. With Amy dropping and basically tackling Warren on the way out it's either her or Kamala it seems like.


(i just saw her at +500 somewhere)

again im just starting to kinda pay attention to all this stuff for gambling purposes, but don't get the kamala love for VP...need that explained to me...

didn't tulsi absolutely shred her to pieces in the democratic debate and put an end to her candidacy with her record as a prosecutor? how is that going to help the dem ticket if she's on it, especially in this environment? I mean let's be brutally honest, the dem VP is an EXTREMELY important person in this election...the person isn't just a figurehead to get more votes...

[thesidedish]

Probably wasting my time looking to find a spot where I bet one way for the general and then the opposite for maybe FL, WI, MI, yeah? I'm realizing it gets complicated real quick and you can't just plug it into a calculator.


unrelated:

Val Demmings at +450 or 500 seems good. With Amy dropping and basically tackling Warren on the way out it's either her or Kamala it seems like.


(i just saw her at +500 somewhere)

again im just starting to kinda pay attention to all this stuff for gambling purposes, but don't get the kamala love for VP...need that explained to me...

didn't tulsi absolutely shred her to pieces in the democratic debate and put an end to her candidacy with her record as a prosecutor? how is that going to help the dem ticket if she's on it, especially in this environment? I mean let's be brutally honest, the dem VP is an EXTREMELY important person in this election...the person isn't just a figurehead to get more votes...

the leadership of the DNC are the most pretentious frauds on the planet and kamala was their #1 pick to be the presidential nominee, no chance they will ever admit they were wrong about anything or anybody so thats why it will be kamala

[thesidedish]

Ouch! That hurts bro. You mean we aren’t internet pals anymore? Fucking loser.

Bro? Don't ever call me or anyone bro again.

Bro... lol


You're like 40 or 50 and running around calling guys BRO?


Not only are you a stupid whale and an asshole but you're also a dork on top of it.

guys sn is big dick and hes telling ppl to grow up, what a pretentious fraud

[duped_samaritan]

Probably wasting my time looking to find a spot where I bet one way for the general and then the opposite for maybe FL, WI, MI, yeah? I'm realizing it gets complicated real quick and you can't just plug it into a calculator.


unrelated:

Val Demmings at +450 or 500 seems good. With Amy dropping and basically tackling Warren on the way out it's either her or Kamala it seems like.


(i just saw her at +500 somewhere)

again im just starting to kinda pay attention to all this stuff for gambling purposes, but don't get the kamala love for VP...need that explained to me...

didn't tulsi absolutely shred her to pieces in the democratic debate and put an end to her candidacy with her record as a prosecutor? how is that going to help the dem ticket if she's on it, especially in this environment? I mean let's be brutally honest, the dem VP is an EXTREMELY important person in this election...the person isn't just a figurehead to get more votes...

Everyone got shredded to pieces at some point. Kamala probably kicked Bidens ass the hardest and was looking really good for like 3 days. Man it feels like those debates were 7 years ago.

I agree she seems over priced, she checks all the race/sex boxes and it probably the most articulate but I don't see Kamala helping Biden in any swing states the way Amy (MN) or Val Demmings (FL) would.

[SPIT this]

Probably wasting my time looking to find a spot where I bet one way for the general and then the opposite for maybe FL, WI, MI, yeah? I'm realizing it gets complicated real quick and you can't just plug it into a calculator.


unrelated:

Val Demmings at +450 or 500 seems good. With Amy dropping and basically tackling Warren on the way out it's either her or Kamala it seems like.


(i just saw her at +500 somewhere)

I agree with this. I think it will be Harris, but I would take Demmings +500 if I could get it.

Klobuchar dropping was a bit like saying "no" when nobody was asking. She was trading at 2% before she "took herself out of contention".

[blake]

No, not 25%, which is a shame for the reasons stated below. But again, my point was that what you are shown on television is for ratings and/or meant to stoke the fires that are burning. I have no problem believing 10-20% will vote for Trump, however.

The left has just as stereotypical views of blacks as does the right. There are far more of them that get up and go to work and want better lives for their families and the safety that comes with that than there are of them sitting around waiting for a handout or protesting something they don't even understand. A larger number of those hard working people have realized the democrats have sold them a bill of goods and vote R, hoping for a better lot the next go around.

We either need to get rid of the party system or have multiple parties like in some European nations. Far too many of us are taken for granted by this duopoly.

Ten is theoretically possible even though it’s usually hard capped at high single digits, 8 or 9%, but anything approaching 20% is laughable.

There has been a virus which which hit their community harder, race riots, and the president is legit fighting for confederate flags.

That you think he could double the 9% someone like Reagan got seems crazy. How many black voters show isn’t set in stone, but how they vote is amazingly consistent, and I don’t think will change for the guy viewed as the most polarizing president ever.

The Dems have sold them a bill if goods, but they have a much better deal under Dems than Republicans. For those that work and those that don’t.

oh and that trump started birtherism and has ranted about obama (99.9% approval rating in black communities) being thrown in jail maybe doesn't help

[blake]

both demmings and elizabeth warren are good vp bets

[sonatine]

kamala is saying all the right shit right now on twitter; by supporting resolution of the underpinning issues behind the blm movement, shes rolling back her 'law and order' bullshit enough to seduce the base she needs to seduce, without alienating biden's boomermachine.

honestly if shes on the ticket, we are basically voting for her to be president in 2021, and im soups comfy with that rn.

[SPIT this]

both demmings and elizabeth warren are good vp bets

70 year old white lady?

[abrown83]

Ten is theoretically possible even though it’s usually hard capped at high single digits, 8 or 9%, but anything approaching 20% is laughable.

There has been a virus which which hit their community harder, race riots, and the president is legit fighting for confederate flags.

That you think he could double the 9% someone like Reagan got seems crazy. How many black voters show isn’t set in stone, but how they vote is amazingly consistent, and I don’t think will change for the guy viewed as the most polarizing president ever.

The Dems have sold them a bill if goods, but they have a much better deal under Dems than Republicans. For those that work and those that don’t.

oh and that trump started birtherism and has ranted about obama (99.9% approval rating in black communities) being thrown in jail maybe doesn't help

So for reference....

Trump was polling at 7% favorability rating with Blacks leading up to 2016, and got about 8% of the vote.

In March pre-Covid, pre-riots....he was polling at 18% favorable, 23% Black Men, 14% Black Women. (NYT Reference)

What won W reelection?

 

Going from single digit to double digit support in the Black community

[thesidedish]

Ten is theoretically possible even though it’s usually hard capped at high single digits, 8 or 9%, but anything approaching 20% is laughable.

There has been a virus which which hit their community harder, race riots, and the president is legit fighting for confederate flags.

That you think he could double the 9% someone like Reagan got seems crazy. How many black voters show isn’t set in stone, but how they vote is amazingly consistent, and I don’t think will change for the guy viewed as the most polarizing president ever.

The Dems have sold them a bill if goods, but they have a much better deal under Dems than Republicans. For those that work and those that don’t.

oh and that trump started birtherism and has ranted about obama (99.9% approval rating in black communities) being thrown in jail maybe doesn't help

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