**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[Dan Druff]

fauci just crushed trump to the washington post btw. said "we couldn't be positioned more poorly." yikes

also 538 now says that for trump to win, it would have to be a much bigger polling error than in 2016

Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.

Look at the states getting it badly now, and these are mostly places which didn't have it badly before. Notice NY/NJ/CT, which got walloped hard in the spring, aren't that bad right now. Even California isn't that bad now, because it already had its bad run in the late summer and early fall.

It's still mostly holding true to the model that it runs through each population badly once, then drops considerably.

[Dan Druff]

But yes, Trump is a bigger dog now than in 2016, for sure.

This is due to a few factors:

1) Biden has much more natural popularity in PA than Hillary did

2) Dems aren't neglecting the northern states this time

3) The Dems successfully convinced dummies like big dick that 75% of the COVID deaths were Trump's fault, whereas in 2016 there was no COVID

4) The TDS among Bernie supporters is so severe that they somehow aren't pissed that the Dems cheated Bernie worse in 2020 than they did in 2016. In 2016, this bothered a lot of them, who refused to vote for Hillary.

[Sloppy Joe]

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LOL Team Retard.

Again?

[Texter]

Fat shithead...for sure.

50 to 100k is BS

That's what the Doctors are saying. Your google machine works as well as mine

They also said this

Stanford announced today they can track 30,000 Covid cases, and 700 deaths to 18 Trump rallies.

Wow 700...original estimate was 2 million deaths in the US.

[Dan Druff]

Also the blue shift of Georgia, Texas, and Arizona -- mostly from population shifts from bluer areas -- presents a new problem for Republicans which didn't exist before.

[big dick]

Obama, Biden make first joint appearance in Michigan: 'We're done with the chaos'
The former president and VP have appearances in Flint and Detroit to rebuild blue wall

8 years in office from 08-16 and not one trace of scandal.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...rance-michigan

[Dan Druff]

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LOL Team Retard.

Again?

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying that people blocking roads is bad now?

Can we get the official Sloppy Joe position on road blocking? I thought that was a good, reasonable form of peaceful protest, even if it's blocking emergency vehicles and non-emergency vehicles which might be engaging in emergency travel (such rushing your dad with chest pain to the hospital.)

Anyway, please let me know your official position on road blocking. Is unintentional road blocking bad, but intentional road blocking is good? I'm so confused!!

Please enlighten us.

[Texter]

Obama, Biden make first joint appearance in Michigan: 'We're done with the chaos'
The former president and VP have appearances in Flint and Detroit to rebuild blue wall

8 years in office from 08-16 and not one trace of scandal.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...rance-michigan

Post in good faith...WTF are you talking about...original death estimates were 2 million without mitigation.

A wise man once told me my google works just as well as his...wait...it was a dipshit, not a wise man....my bad

[big dick]

But yes, Trump is a bigger dog now than in 2016, for sure.

This is due to a few factors:

1) Biden has much more natural popularity in PA than Hillary did

2) Dems aren't neglecting the northern states this time

3) The Dems successfully convinced dummies like big dick that 75% of the COVID deaths were Trump's fault, whereas in 2016 there was no COVID

4) The TDS among Bernie supporters is so severe that they somehow aren't pissed that the Dems cheated Bernie worse in 2020 than they did in 2016. In 2016, this bothered a lot of them, who refused to vote for Hillary.

simple google

Nearly 70,000 lives could be saved in the next 3 months if more Americans wore masks, researchers say
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/healt...day/index.html

How many needless Covid-19 deaths were caused by delays in responding? Most of them

That isn’t a hypothetical question. And the answer that emerges from a direct comparison of the fatalities in and policies of the U.S. and other countries — South Korea, Australia, Germany, and Singapore — indicates that between 70% and 99% of the Americans who died from this pandemic might have been saved by measures demonstrated by others to have been feasible.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/...vid-19-deaths/

Universal Mask Wearing Could Save Some 130,000 Lives In The U.S., Study Suggests

Universal mask wearing in public could greatly reduce the number of Americans who die by COVID-19 by February, a study published Friday in the journal Nature Medicine projects.

Researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation made estimates based on some assumptions under different scenarios.

In what they describe as the worst-case scenario, they project that COVID-19 deaths could exceed a million between September 2020 and February 2021 if what they call "the current pattern of easing" restrictions continues in states.

In a second scenario that they think is more likely, they say 511,000 could die between September and February under the assumption that "states would once again shut down social interaction and some economic activity" for six weeks once deaths reach a certain threshold per million residents.

But in a third scenario where 95% of the population dons face coverings and social restrictions are in place, the projection is for deaths to be about 381,000 — or about 130,000 fewer than under the second scenario.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...study-suggests

[Dan Druff]

Obama, Biden make first joint appearance in Michigan: 'We're done with the chaos'
The former president and VP have appearances in Flint and Detroit to rebuild blue wall

8 years in office from 08-16 and not one trace of scandal.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...rance-michigan

No trace of scandal aside from Joe Biden's son using the Biden name to collect bags of cash from China and Ukraine, while setting up personal, off-record meetings with Joe!

Well.. and except for a VA Waiting List scandal where thousands of veterans died, and Obama didn't fire the head of the VA who tried to cover it up when whistleblowers complained. (Also, not ONE person was arrested for this -- low level or high level!)

Well.. and except for $560 million spent on a simple healthcare website which didn't work, and somehow Obama fire the appointee in charge.

Well... and except for Harry Reid taking a $1 million bribe from Full Tilt Poker, Utah wanting to investigate him, and Obama's AG Holder blocking it, saying, "Nothing to see here."

Need I go on?

[big dick]

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/twt/status/1322688676170735616

LOL Team Retard.

Again?

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying that people blocking roads is bad now?

Can we get the official Sloppy Joe position on road blocking? I thought that was a good, reasonable form of peaceful protest, even if it's blocking emergency vehicles and non-emergency vehicles which might be engaging in emergency travel (such rushing your dad with chest pain to the hospital.)

Anyway, please let me know your official position on road blocking. Is unintentional road blocking bad, but intentional road blocking is good? I'm so confused!!

Please enlighten us.

it's okay to try and Run Biden buses off the road?

LOL how you and your kind spins all this shit


trump left these people in the cold the same way he left them int eh cold the other day in Nebraska

he left them in the cold the same way he left the entire country out in the cold


he is the worst president in the history of America and he's going to lose in a landslide Tuesday

[Dan Druff]

But yes, Trump is a bigger dog now than in 2016, for sure.

This is due to a few factors:

1) Biden has much more natural popularity in PA than Hillary did

2) Dems aren't neglecting the northern states this time

3) The Dems successfully convinced dummies like big dick that 75% of the COVID deaths were Trump's fault, whereas in 2016 there was no COVID

4) The TDS among Bernie supporters is so severe that they somehow aren't pissed that the Dems cheated Bernie worse in 2020 than they did in 2016. In 2016, this bothered a lot of them, who refused to vote for Hillary.

simple google

Nearly 70,000 lives could be saved in the next 3 months if more Americans wore masks, researchers say
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/healt...day/index.html

How many needless Covid-19 deaths were caused by delays in responding? Most of them

That isn’t a hypothetical question. And the answer that emerges from a direct comparison of the fatalities in and policies of the U.S. and other countries — South Korea, Australia, Germany, and Singapore — indicates that between 70% and 99% of the Americans who died from this pandemic might have been saved by measures demonstrated by others to have been feasible.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/...vid-19-deaths/

Universal Mask Wearing Could Save Some 130,000 Lives In The U.S., Study Suggests

Universal mask wearing in public could greatly reduce the number of Americans who die by COVID-19 by February, a study published Friday in the journal Nature Medicine projects.

Researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation made estimates based on some assumptions under different scenarios.

In what they describe as the worst-case scenario, they project that COVID-19 deaths could exceed a million between September 2020 and February 2021 if what they call "the current pattern of easing" restrictions continues in states.

In a second scenario that they think is more likely, they say 511,000 could die between September and February under the assumption that "states would once again shut down social interaction and some economic activity" for six weeks once deaths reach a certain threshold per million residents.

But in a third scenario where 95% of the population dons face coverings and social restrictions are in place, the projection is for deaths to be about 381,000 — or about 130,000 fewer than under the second scenario.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...study-suggests

These articles are all from highly biased sites which don't bother looking at counter-evidence because it's inconvenient.

I'm not going to debunk every point raised because it's a waste of time. However, let's look at the last thing you quoted:

"In a second scenario that they think is more likely, they say 511,000 could die between September and February under the assumption that "states would once again shut down social interaction and some economic activity" for six weeks once deaths reach a certain threshold per million residents.

But in a third scenario where 95% of the population dons face coverings and social restrictions are in place, the projection is for deaths to be about 381,000 — or about 130,000 fewer than under the second scenario."

Okay, first off, again how do you explain why Norway has done very well with COVID, despite almost nobody wearing a mask through late August, and still a low level of mask wearing today? I thought mask wearing is the key difference-maker?

Second, these obscene scenarios of 500,000 people dying are idiotic scare tactics, not supported by real data or past observation of the virus.

381,000 deaths between September and February (a 6-month period, provided they mean 9/1/20 through 2/28/21) is the best case scenario??

Laughable. I will take the under on all of these. Anyone want to bet?

[big dick]

Obama, Biden make first joint appearance in Michigan: 'We're done with the chaos'
The former president and VP have appearances in Flint and Detroit to rebuild blue wall

8 years in office from 08-16 and not one trace of scandal.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...rance-michigan

No trace of scandal aside from Joe Biden's son using the Biden name to collect bags of cash from China and Ukraine, while setting up personal, off-record meetings with Joe!

Well.. and except for a VA Waiting List scandal where thousands of veterans died, and Obama didn't fire the head of the VA who tried to cover it up when whistleblowers complained. (Also, not ONE person was arrested for this -- low level or high level!)

Well.. and except for $560 million spent on a simple healthcare website which didn't work, and somehow Obama fire the appointee in charge.

Well... and except for Harry Reid taking a $1 million bribe from Full Tilt Poker, Utah wanting to investigate him, and Obama's AG Holder blocking it, saying, "Nothing to see here."

Need I go on?

How many people in the Obama administration were indicted and convicted of crimes?

[Sloppy Joe]

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/twt/status/1322688676170735616

LOL Team Retard.

Again?

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying that people blocking roads is bad now?

Can we get the official Sloppy Joe position on road blocking? I thought that was a good, reasonable form of peaceful protest, even if it's blocking emergency vehicles and non-emergency vehicles which might be engaging in emergency travel (such rushing your dad with chest pain to the hospital.)

Anyway, please let me know your official position on road blocking. Is unintentional road blocking bad, but intentional road blocking is good? I'm so confused!!

Please enlighten us.

I mean, aside from the



I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Too much Halloween candy tonight?

[big dick]

simple google

Nearly 70,000 lives could be saved in the next 3 months if more Americans wore masks, researchers say
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/healt...day/index.html

How many needless Covid-19 deaths were caused by delays in responding? Most of them

That isn’t a hypothetical question. And the answer that emerges from a direct comparison of the fatalities in and policies of the U.S. and other countries — South Korea, Australia, Germany, and Singapore — indicates that between 70% and 99% of the Americans who died from this pandemic might have been saved by measures demonstrated by others to have been feasible.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/...vid-19-deaths/

Universal Mask Wearing Could Save Some 130,000 Lives In The U.S., Study Suggests

Universal mask wearing in public could greatly reduce the number of Americans who die by COVID-19 by February, a study published Friday in the journal Nature Medicine projects.

Researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation made estimates based on some assumptions under different scenarios.

In what they describe as the worst-case scenario, they project that COVID-19 deaths could exceed a million between September 2020 and February 2021 if what they call "the current pattern of easing" restrictions continues in states.

In a second scenario that they think is more likely, they say 511,000 could die between September and February under the assumption that "states would once again shut down social interaction and some economic activity" for six weeks once deaths reach a certain threshold per million residents.

But in a third scenario where 95% of the population dons face coverings and social restrictions are in place, the projection is for deaths to be about 381,000 — or about 130,000 fewer than under the second scenario.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...study-suggests

These articles are all from highly biased sites which don't bother looking at counter-evidence because it's inconvenient.

I'm not going to debunk every point raised because it's a waste of time. However, let's look at the last thing you quoted:

"In a second scenario that they think is more likely, they say 511,000 could die between September and February under the assumption that "states would once again shut down social interaction and some economic activity" for six weeks once deaths reach a certain threshold per million residents.

But in a third scenario where 95% of the population dons face coverings and social restrictions are in place, the projection is for deaths to be about 381,000 — or about 130,000 fewer than under the second scenario."

Okay, first off, again how do you explain why Norway has done very well with COVID, despite almost nobody wearing a mask through late August, and still a low level of mask wearing today? I thought mask wearing is the key difference-maker?

Second, these obscene scenarios of 500,000 people dying are idiotic scare tactics, not supported by real data or past observation of the virus.

381,000 deaths between September and February (a 6-month period, provided they mean 9/1/20 through 2/28/21) is the best case scenario??

Laughable. I will take the under on all of these. Anyone want to bet?

I hope you're right.

I trust Doctors and what they say over what you say tho


Are you really arguing that trump couldn't possibly have done a better job?

[Dan Druff]

Here is the truth:

We are experiencing a lot of bad results from lockdowns which will have both short and long term impact.

Depression.

Poverty.

Lack of diagnosis/treatment of other diseases which kill people.

A widening education gap between poor people and rich people (in many areas, private schools are operating, and public schools are not).

We are seeing a surge in cases right now because young people have "lockdown fatigue" and are ignoring restrictions. They are rapidly giving it to each other, and are mostly asymptomatic or extremely mildly symptomatic. That is why our current numbers are so high. Then there are some 45+ people who are catching it from these young people, thus spiking our numbers temporarily, though not nearly as bad as what was going on in the spring, when we were getting near 3000 deaths per day. Currently we are at around 1000 deaths per day.

Once it rips through most of the reckless young people (almost all of whom won't be affected), we will see a decline again.

Policy can't fix this. Young people are tired of being locked down, because they know the danger to them is extremely minimal.

[big dick]

Obama, Biden make first joint appearance in Michigan: 'We're done with the chaos'
The former president and VP have appearances in Flint and Detroit to rebuild blue wall

8 years in office from 08-16 and not one trace of scandal.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...rance-michigan

Post in good faith...WTF are you talking about...original death estimates were 2 million without mitigation.

A wise man once told me my google works just as well as his...wait...it was a dipshit, not a wise man....my bad

You just parrot what you hear from the right wing propaganda machine

trump might be the biggest liar int he history of the world so you should prob stop quoting things he is saying as fact



There will be millions dead if trump wins and we dont have a vaccine.


Do you understand what I'm telling you?

[Texter]

Post in good faith...WTF are you talking about...original death estimates were 2 million without mitigation.

A wise man once told me my google works just as well as his...wait...it was a dipshit, not a wise man....my bad

You just parrot what you hear from the right wing propaganda machine

trump might be the biggest liar int he history fo the world so you should prob stop quoting things he is saying as fact



There will be millions dead if trump wins and we dont have a vaccine.


Do you understand what I'm telling you?

There will be millions dead if Trump loses and we don’t have a vaccine too....get it.

Without a vaccine, We will ALL get Covid eventually....masks or no masks....dummy, no matter who is president.

[big dick]

You just parrot what you hear from the right wing propaganda machine

trump might be the biggest liar int he history fo the world so you should prob stop quoting things he is saying as fact



There will be millions dead if trump wins and we dont have a vaccine.


Do you understand what I'm telling you?

There will be millions dead if Trump loses and we don’t have a vaccine too....get it.

Without a vaccine, We will ALL get Covid eventually....masks or no masks....dummy, no matter who is president.

So you think herd immunity is a thing?

[big dick]

Herd Immunity would take years

2-6 million PER YEAR will die

Lol @ thinking we can reach herd immunity without vaccination


Educate yourself ont he subject next time before coming at me


you don't what you're talking about