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    Donald Trump 'kept asking aides if he will DIE of COVID like friend Stan Chera' as his chief of staff says his vitals are VERY CONCERNING, the next 48 hours are CRITICAL and it emerges he was on oxygen at the White House

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...alk-today.html



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Any "recovery" required would be from Trump's personality, which will become much less of an issue once he leaves office in either 2021 or 2025. And that recovery would happen quickly, because he won't be the de facto head of the party anymore. It's not like there's a second Trump type waiting in the wings. He's one of a kind.
    I’ll spare you the “wrong”. You are sincere and it’s a fun discussion.

    Policy will have to drag Trump around for years like a ball and chain. Inexorably linked. We’ve said this before - you missed your window with impeachment. Now you are rooting for death.

    Nixon was the clean example you’re wishing for. Evidence was overwhelming. He was found guilty in the hearings. He admitted wrongdoing was pardoned and disappeared from the public eye in shame.

    We bounced back in the context of history. None of these elements are present with Trump.

    Trump is not admitting anything upon reflection. Trump’s financial and legal issues will be nightly fodder for ever. Schadenfreude for the unquenchable public. Trump is not going away. Trump will continue to shoot off about politics. Loudly.

    You occupy an interesting reality. I blame your Facebook.
    My Facebook actually gives me a lot of perspective of both sides. My outspoken Facebook friends lean more left, so I get tons of propaganda on there from them. Well, at least from the ones who haven't yet blocked me.

    I don't see how you can compare him to Nixon. Nixon committed a clear and provable offense, which was likely to result in removal from office. Trump has nothing like that following him. There's a cacophony of accusations, but nothing that will stick in the public's mind over time, aside from those who obsessively hate him.

    Notice that Republicans won the White House back within 6 years of Nixon resigning. I bet there were tons of people in 1974 who were saying this will decimate Republicans for decades. I was only 2 then, so I can't comment on that, but I'd be surprised if that wasn't the rhetoric at the time.

    Trump isn't resigning. Truthfully, the only thing he has to worry about from a historical standpoint is that he will be falsely blamed for COVID's devastation, and 50 years from now, there's not going to be anyone around who remembers it well enough to counter that.

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    The messaging regarding Trump is very confusing and contradictory.

    I've tried to work out in my mind what the truth is. Is he really in bad shape and headed for death, or are these just moderate symptoms which are being played up by the media, based upon some ambiguous comments by his doctors?

    It's hard to tell. He did tweet about 4 hours ago, but a Facebook friend of mine who died of COVID (who was in denial of his condition) made a post just 5 days before he died, talking about how it wasn't nearly as bad as the flu. And this guy was 50.

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    I would bet anything that the last tweets are from some aide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover. View Post
    I would bet anything that the last tweets are from some aide.
    The one yesterday about "Going well, I think" looks like it was from an aide, which is probably the first time I've ever suspected a Trump tweet wasn't hammered out by him on his phone.

    The tweets today... those looksmore like him.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312442195509563392

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312449034154504192


    Not that it would be impossible to do a decent imitation of him, but at least the ones today sound like him, especially that weird one about the stimulus, which an aide wouldn't likely have thought of tweeting during this crisis.

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    ohhhhh now he wants the stimulus

    A month before the Election



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    Last edited by big dick; 10-03-2020 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    The Chinese are celebrating. They need Trump dead or out of office so they can go back to raping the U.S.

    Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Strozk, Page are also celebrating. They need Trump dead or out of office to avoid prosecution for their attempted coup.

    Kelly Anne Conway needs to dump her husband and beat her daughter's ass.

    One of those in Trump's inner circle that tested positive has to be the super spreader.

    Millions of Americans are in the bars at night, not wearing masks, drinking, and spewing their spittal all over everyone.

    mickey, you might be a bit out of your depths on this forum.

    todd runs another forum specifically for smooth brained autists and life-loser retards called "vegascasinotalk.com", you should check it out. i think its more your speed?
    Sonatine, your age is higher than your IQ. All the braindead fucks like you are here on PFA. You can try to out troll me if you want to, bitch. I never quit. Death before dishonor, cuntbreath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I wonder what the actual odds are that one or more of these COVID-positive people in Trump's circle (including Trump himself) dies.
    Chris Christie is obese.

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    Screw Chris Christie.

    Never liked that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Screw Chris Christie.

    Never liked that guy.
    What is this all about? There is nothing wrong with Christie. You happy he has Covid or something, this sounds very Omar like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The messaging regarding Trump is very confusing and contradictory.

    I've tried to work out in my mind what the truth is. Is he really in bad shape and headed for death, or are these just moderate symptoms which are being played up by the media, based upon some ambiguous comments by his doctors?

    It's hard to tell. He did tweet about 4 hours ago, but a Facebook friend of mine who died of COVID (who was in denial of his condition) made a post just 5 days before he died, talking about how it wasn't nearly as bad as the flu. And this guy was 50.
    I'd say he yesterday he was feeling the symptoms, not in danger but he was deteriorating. Today he has improved. But it's still way too early to say what course the disease ultimately will take.

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    Trump released a video this afternoon thanking everyone. He was showing some bags under his eyes but other than that he looked and talked fine. The media is trying to suck everyone in with the "Trump doing bad' bullshit. If he does get worse who in the hell is going to believe it after all the media bullshit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Screw Chris Christie.

    Never liked that guy.
    What is this all about? There is nothing wrong with Christie. You happy he has Covid or something, this sounds very Omar like.
    You must not be aware of the bridge scam or the shady weed legalization that happened

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    looks like the bookmakers feel comfortable enough with trumps health to post betting odds


    POLITICAL EVENTS - OCT 03
    ALL POLITICAL WAGERS FOR THE 2020 ELECTION HAVE ACTION WHENEVER THE ELECTION TAKES PLACE
    IN THE EVENT OF A TIE IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE MARKET, GOP BY 0-9 IS THE WINNER
    U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2020 - WINNING PARTY
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    The blue wall aka Pa,Mi,WI IS STRONG

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    PARTY TO WIN THE MICHIGAN ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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    PARTY TO WIN THE WISCONSIN ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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    big dick is a curious case because he's someone you'd expect to be a Republican. Even though he's been a poker pro for some years now, he was a blue collar worker before this. He's not one of those guys who was brainwashed with liberal rhetoric at college, which is how so many white collar workers end up being Democrats. I came into college already knowing I was a Republican, so I wasn't susceptible to this. Plus, I have always rejected brainwashing and groupthink in general.

    Most blue collar white guys have come to realize how much the Democratic Party hates them, and have switched over to the GOP. I realize that perhaps big dick was fed a lot of rhetoric from the union about how Democrats are better (since Democrats have pandered to unions for decades, in order to secure those large voting blocs), but you'd think that would have worn off by now.

    Guess not.

    big dick is also on board with the conservatives with crime-and-punishment issues, from what I've seen, which makes his TDS even more baffling. I would understand if he just hated Trump, but he seems to hate all Republicans.

     
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    It's a class war now a days.

    I will back the poor and middle class until my last breath is taken


    I sit here and watch how the super wealthy fuck all of us over and it infuriates me

    That 2 trillion $ tax cut sent me into another orbit all the while the promise of a 3 trillion dollar infrastructure never happened

    The super wealthy and the lobbyists they hire are the main problem with our country as I see it

    If something doesn't get done and done soon we will end up like all the other countries worldwide who have only the haves and have not's

    I'm a blue collar guy and so are my family and friends

    trump believes in nothing but what's good for him and it's that simple.
    He has no morals or real passion
    his passion is greed and hate and whatever is best for him at that moment in time
    he's bad man and a very dangerous man
    I hate Mitch 10x more than trump and that's fucking saying something

    i'm pro-police
    anti abortion
    pro death penalty
    pro union

    live and let live

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    I saw he was 247 high bmi he looks heavier imo since he is six foot 3 or so

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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816


    He is sitting the whole time and seems fatigued.

    However, he did manage to speak for 4 minutes (which he didn't have to do), so he couldn't be that bad. Some people I know who had COVID couldn't have done this when their symptoms were peaking.

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    The well wishes and all that from Biden and the rest. Let’s call it bothersome.

    I have the same sympathy I have for someone who smoked 2 packs a day and ended up with cancer. You were willfully negligent and it was needless. Sympathy is wasted emotion

    The video included absolutely no mention of his staff that are now going to suffer because of poor leadership.

    On the whole, he merits a “fuck off” in terms of his health outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    The well wishes and all that from Biden and the rest. Let’s call it bothersome.

    I have the same sympathy I have for someone who smoked 2 packs a day and ended up with cancer. You were willfully negligent and it was needless. Sympathy is wasted emotion

    The video included absolutely no mention of his staff that are now going to suffer because of poor leadership.

    On the whole, he merits a “fuck off” in terms of his health outcome.
    Feelings change though based on the importance and significance of the individual

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