**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[dwai]

I'm seeing some moderate signs of life from the Trump campaign, but overall it's been an incompetent disaster thus far.

Trump needs to relentlessly hammer the following two points home:

1) Biden is comatose, senile, and being hidden from view as much as possible by the Democrats and his people

2) Biden will not condemn the riots, looting, and other violent social unrest, and refuses to condemn the Defund the Police movement

and possibly soon:

3) The VP pick is far left, out of touch with what American people want, and there's a good chance she will become President given Biden's age and mental decline. (If Kamala Harris is picked, this won't be as strong of a pitch, but they can still try to make it because she is unlikable in some ways.)

They also should start showing Biden's support of the mass protests, and then show the huge spike in COVID-19 cases which began shortly after that. Trump needs to kill the popular belief that the COVID-19 problem in the US is his fault (which, in fact, it really isn't.)

Number one can't happen, given Trump's penchant for rambling and speaking incoherently. The Biden=old polled horribly with older voters, hence why they've pivoted away. Did you see Chris Wallace undress him for retardedly touting his cognitive test?

It's impossible to separate the current state of COVID from the inaction of the Trump administration. He absolutely bears responsibility as the leader of the country, and you know this. Cases are ramping up and only will continue given the retarded stance of school reopening. Look at retarded Florida and retarded Texas.

Incredible how Biden has gained so much simply from laying in the cut and letting this maniacal criminal bury himself. Trump still may win, but the amount of self-sabotage is a level of retard that only he could attain.

"trump still may win"

LOL

:TRAIN

[Dan Druff]

I'm seeing some moderate signs of life from the Trump campaign, but overall it's been an incompetent disaster thus far.

Trump needs to relentlessly hammer the following two points home:

1) Biden is comatose, senile, and being hidden from view as much as possible by the Democrats and his people

2) Biden will not condemn the riots, looting, and other violent social unrest, and refuses to condemn the Defund the Police movement

and possibly soon:

3) The VP pick is far left, out of touch with what American people want, and there's a good chance she will become President given Biden's age and mental decline. (If Kamala Harris is picked, this won't be as strong of a pitch, but they can still try to make it because she is unlikable in some ways.)

They also should start showing Biden's support of the mass protests, and then show the huge spike in COVID-19 cases which began shortly after that. Trump needs to kill the popular belief that the COVID-19 problem in the US is his fault (which, in fact, it really isn't.)

Number one can't happen, given Trump's penchant for rambling and speaking incoherently. The Biden=old polled horribly with older voters, hence why they've pivoted away. Did you see Chris Wallace undress him for retardedly touting his cognitive test?

It's impossible to separate the current state of COVID from the inaction of the Trump administration. He absolutely bears responsibility as the leader of the country, and you know this. Cases are ramping up and only will continue given the retarded stance of school reopening. Look at retarded Florida and retarded Texas.

Incredible how Biden has gained so much simply from laying in the cut and letting this maniacal criminal bury himself. Trump still may win, but the amount of self-sabotage is a level of retard that only he could attain.

The cognitive test bragging was stupid. Trump doesn't need to brag that he's coherent, people can see that he's not Biden. It's like bragging that you passed a test for sanity.

However, you're wrong about COVID being as bad as it is because of "inaction" by Trump. There was nothing Trump could have done. There is scientific and statistical evidence everywhere that the value of masking is greatly exaggerated, that each metro area will basically be hard-hit once (NY/Seattle had theirs early, Texas/Florida/others are having theirs now), and that keeping everything indefinitely shut down just accomplishes delaying the inevitable.

Remember, the point was to flatten the curve, not to prevent a curve from occurring. It is not realistic to assume we will have a vaccine or treatment any time soon, and we can't just leave everything closed for 12+ months.

There's more discussion of this stuff in the coronavirus thread here, but you get my point. A lot of Dems are idiotically saying, "Trump no wear mask, Trump no good leader, COVID-19 bad in US, this all big orange man fault!"

Total oversimplification, and in fact downright inaccurate.

Show me a major area where you feel Trump messed up COVID and it had a consequence, and I'll show you respected statistical/scientific data to the contrary. COVID-19 was going to be really bad here, regardless of who was in charge.

Trump needs to get that message out.

He could start by at least showing that Democrats were for the 60,000+ packed-in-people protests, and then show the evidence that it created COVID-19 spikes in some places like Los Angeles. At the very least, it will start to sow seeds of doubt that this is his fault.

Right now he's kind of just sitting and letting people say it's his fault, and his few denials of it ("We have one of the lowest death rates") are simply inaccurate/untrue.

[TheXFactor]

Over 140,000 Americans are dead which is Donald Trump fault because of his incompetent response to the coronavirus.

It doesn't matter how old, senile, comatose or creepy that Joe Biden is. Anyone running on the Democratic ticket will win.

No one has embarrassed America and the American people more than Donald Trump. To say that Trump is the worst President in history is a major understatement.

It will take decades for the United States of America to recover from the "leadership" of Donald Trump. I hope that the Republicans who enabled this monster are held accountable and imprisoned.

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[blake]

The biden is senile angle won’t work. Everyone knows he’s not all there already.

Similarly, every trump voter on the planet already believes trump is legit insane and at least borderline retarded. They knew this in 2016 and somehow think it’s charming.

It is a myth that there are undecided voters in this election. No one is going to be swayed. Biden could drop dead and be replaced by an empty chair and the empty chair would do just as well as joe and be a betting favorite. Trump’s path to victory is just turning out his base and hope that black voters sit this one out again.

[blake]

Number one can't happen, given Trump's penchant for rambling and speaking incoherently. The Biden=old polled horribly with older voters, hence why they've pivoted away. Did you see Chris Wallace undress him for retardedly touting his cognitive test?

It's impossible to separate the current state of COVID from the inaction of the Trump administration. He absolutely bears responsibility as the leader of the country, and you know this. Cases are ramping up and only will continue given the retarded stance of school reopening. Look at retarded Florida and retarded Texas.

Incredible how Biden has gained so much simply from laying in the cut and letting this maniacal criminal bury himself. Trump still may win, but the amount of self-sabotage is a level of retard that only he could attain.

The cognitive test bragging was stupid. Trump doesn't need to brag that he's coherent, people can see that he's not Biden. It's like bragging that you passed a test for sanity.

However, you're wrong about COVID being as bad as it is because of "inaction" by Trump. There was nothing Trump could have done. There is scientific and statistical evidence everywhere that the value of masking is greatly exaggerated, that each metro area will basically be hard-hit once (NY/Seattle had theirs early, Texas/Florida/others are having theirs now), and that keeping everything indefinitely shut down just accomplishes delaying the inevitable.

Remember, the point was to flatten the curve, not to prevent a curve from occurring. It is not realistic to assume we will have a vaccine or treatment any time soon, and we can't just leave everything closed for 12+ months.

There's more discussion of this stuff in the coronavirus thread here, but you get my point. A lot of Dems are idiotically saying, "Trump no wear mask, Trump no good leader, COVID-19 bad in US, this all big orange man fault!"

Total oversimplification, and in fact downright inaccurate.

Show me a major area where you feel Trump messed up COVID and it had a consequence, and I'll show you respected statistical/scientific data to the contrary. COVID-19 was going to be really bad here, regardless of who was in charge.

Trump needs to get that message out.

He could start by at least showing that Democrats were for the 60,000+ packed-in-people protests, and then show the evidence that it created COVID-19 spikes in some places like Los Angeles. At the very least, it will start to sow seeds of doubt that this is his fault.

Right now he's kind of just sitting and letting people say it's his fault, and his few denials of it ("We have one of the lowest death rates") are simply inaccurate/untrue.

druff, this is an impossible message to get out. If the schools are closed in the fall, trump has a 0% chance of winning. This is true, even if trump has done everything right.

If biden was smart, he would start talking about how he has a plan to reopen everything, even if he doesn’t.

[big dick]

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[big dick]

I'm seeing some moderate signs of life from the Trump campaign, but overall it's been an incompetent disaster thus far.

Trump needs to relentlessly hammer the following two points home:

1) Biden is comatose, senile, and being hidden from view as much as possible by the Democrats and his people

2) Biden will not condemn the riots, looting, and other violent social unrest, and refuses to condemn the Defund the Police movement

and possibly soon:

3) The VP pick is far left, out of touch with what American people want, and there's a good chance she will become President given Biden's age and mental decline. (If Kamala Harris is picked, this won't be as strong of a pitch, but they can still try to make it because she is unlikable in some ways.)

They also should start showing Biden's support of the mass protests, and then show the huge spike in COVID-19 cases which began shortly after that. Trump needs to kill the popular belief that the COVID-19 problem in the US is his fault (which, in fact, it really isn't.)

Smartest idiot I know.

[tgull]

Polls are all over the place. Rasmussen has Trump's favorability at 48%. A poll came out today Trump is ahead in Georgia at 7% over Biden.

His base is probably 43-44% which obviously not enough to win. He simply needs to peel away 3% of Independents and he will win. By all estimates the virus is going to cool in late August. I know people hate to believe this because most missed out, but the stock market is the leading indicator of the future and it is soaring. A vaccine is close, whether it works or not is not relevant for Trump, it just needs to be announced before November and he will coast.

This notion Biden being senile does not matter is a joke. It's a binary choice and when the public sees Biden on stage for 3 debates they are simply going to have to evaluate the VP pick since they will likely be President if Biden wins. And they will vote for Trump or stay home because most of the country do not like left wing lunatics.

Do not doubt me, you do and you go broke. I have proven this before.

[big dick]

Dishtard bragging about being a "good gambler" as he let's us know he hit a -EV 2 team parlay and then takes the -EV bet money he won and bets a +150 dog @ +130 and then brags some more

how fucking funny is that?



lmk when you wanna play heads up donk


I will give you odds

[Dan Druff]

The cognitive test bragging was stupid. Trump doesn't need to brag that he's coherent, people can see that he's not Biden. It's like bragging that you passed a test for sanity.

However, you're wrong about COVID being as bad as it is because of "inaction" by Trump. There was nothing Trump could have done. There is scientific and statistical evidence everywhere that the value of masking is greatly exaggerated, that each metro area will basically be hard-hit once (NY/Seattle had theirs early, Texas/Florida/others are having theirs now), and that keeping everything indefinitely shut down just accomplishes delaying the inevitable.

Remember, the point was to flatten the curve, not to prevent a curve from occurring. It is not realistic to assume we will have a vaccine or treatment any time soon, and we can't just leave everything closed for 12+ months.

There's more discussion of this stuff in the coronavirus thread here, but you get my point. A lot of Dems are idiotically saying, "Trump no wear mask, Trump no good leader, COVID-19 bad in US, this all big orange man fault!"

Total oversimplification, and in fact downright inaccurate.

Show me a major area where you feel Trump messed up COVID and it had a consequence, and I'll show you respected statistical/scientific data to the contrary. COVID-19 was going to be really bad here, regardless of who was in charge.

Trump needs to get that message out.

He could start by at least showing that Democrats were for the 60,000+ packed-in-people protests, and then show the evidence that it created COVID-19 spikes in some places like Los Angeles. At the very least, it will start to sow seeds of doubt that this is his fault.

Right now he's kind of just sitting and letting people say it's his fault, and his few denials of it ("We have one of the lowest death rates") are simply inaccurate/untrue.

druff, this is an impossible message to get out. If the schools are closed in the fall, trump has a 0% chance of winning. This is true, even if trump has done everything right.

If biden was smart, he would start talking about how he has a plan to reopen everything, even if he doesn’t.

I'm not saying Trump wins if he puts this message out. I'm saying he's too easily conceding the inaccurate criticism that it's his fault, and when he doesn't concede, he stupidly says things which are easily disproven (such as that the US death rate isn't high.)

The White House needs to come up with an accurate and study-backed message showing why the US being hard hit isn't his fault, and also show some mistakes from Democrats which probably made things worse (such as the support for mass protests).

Right now, the average American thinks that we are being hit hard because Trump and Republicans were greedy -- that he wanted the reopening for their big corporate friends to make more money. Also, it's believed that we are struggling because Trump wasn't embracing masking like he should have.

Neither are true, but the Democrats (assisted by the media) are doing a great job getting that narrative out, and it's believable if you don't investigate too carefully.

[Sanlmar]

Did he actually wish Ghislaine Maxwell well?

[Dan Druff]

I'm seeing some moderate signs of life from the Trump campaign, but overall it's been an incompetent disaster thus far.

Trump needs to relentlessly hammer the following two points home:

1) Biden is comatose, senile, and being hidden from view as much as possible by the Democrats and his people

2) Biden will not condemn the riots, looting, and other violent social unrest, and refuses to condemn the Defund the Police movement

and possibly soon:

3) The VP pick is far left, out of touch with what American people want, and there's a good chance she will become President given Biden's age and mental decline. (If Kamala Harris is picked, this won't be as strong of a pitch, but they can still try to make it because she is unlikable in some ways.)

They also should start showing Biden's support of the mass protests, and then show the huge spike in COVID-19 cases which began shortly after that. Trump needs to kill the popular belief that the COVID-19 problem in the US is his fault (which, in fact, it really isn't.)

Smartest idiot I know.

How am I being an idiot?

You don't think the above would be an improved campaign strategy?

[blake]

it’s horrifying but it now looks like schools will be largely closed this fall, which means the economy is fucked.

trump is the legit GOAT if he wins under these conditions.

[big dick]

Hillary almost never hit 50% in any polls. Biden is consistently hitting 50


Seems tough to win en election when THE person you're running against is getting @ least half the vote

[Walter Sobchak]

I'm seeing some moderate signs of life from the Trump campaign, but overall it's been an incompetent disaster thus far.

Trump needs to relentlessly hammer the following two points home:

1) Biden is comatose, senile, and being hidden from view as much as possible by the Democrats and his people

2) Biden will not condemn the riots, looting, and other violent social unrest, and refuses to condemn the Defund the Police movement

and possibly soon:

3) The VP pick is far left, out of touch with what American people want, and there's a good chance she will become President given Biden's age and mental decline. (If Kamala Harris is picked, this won't be as strong of a pitch, but they can still try to make it because she is unlikable in some ways.)

They also should start showing Biden's support of the mass protests, and then show the huge spike in COVID-19 cases which began shortly after that. Trump needs to kill the popular belief that the COVID-19 problem in the US is his fault (which, in fact, it really isn't.)

The downside of this is that none of that is actually true. The 35% will lap it up but nobody with a brain will buy it.

[Krypt]

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[big dick]

TY Walter you beat me to it

[Walter Sobchak]

Number one can't happen, given Trump's penchant for rambling and speaking incoherently. The Biden=old polled horribly with older voters, hence why they've pivoted away. Did you see Chris Wallace undress him for retardedly touting his cognitive test?

It's impossible to separate the current state of COVID from the inaction of the Trump administration. He absolutely bears responsibility as the leader of the country, and you know this. Cases are ramping up and only will continue given the retarded stance of school reopening. Look at retarded Florida and retarded Texas.

Incredible how Biden has gained so much simply from laying in the cut and letting this maniacal criminal bury himself. Trump still may win, but the amount of self-sabotage is a level of retard that only he could attain.

"trump still may win"

LOL

:TRAIN

Of course. He has cheating, hackable voting machines, the Russians and 200+ years of voter suppression on his side. He can still win.

[Tellafriend]

everyone thinking that trump would dominate a debate with biden doesn’t remember how poor of a debater trump is

I think you are way off here Blake. He's not a debater in the traditional sense, but his one-line snarky remarks won him the repub nomination against a field of experienced politicians. That should play well especially against Biden imo.

[tgull]

Hillary almost never hit 50% in any polls. Biden is consistently hitting 50


Seems tough to win en election when THE person you're running against is getting @ least half the vote

This is why you are the village idiot on these forums. Trump does not need to get to 50%. He got to 46% last go around. Stick with what you know, like daytime TV.