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Thread: **OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's fantasyland to believe quicker test distribution would've saved mass lives.
    Since when did you rename South Korea Fantasyland?

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0820102431.htm

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    druff science:

    q: does it make the far right look like simpleton yokel fuck-ups?

    yes: obviously its all left wing lies.

    no: its just common sense people.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's fantasyland to believe quicker test distribution would've saved mass lives.
    Either one or the other is living in a fantasy world:

    A) All those doctors, scientists and public health experts with decades of experience from around the world.

    B) A 48 year old with no background in public health that specializes in limit holdem, internet forums and pwning the libs.

    Does B really make sense to you?

    There's gotta be a little voice in your head that's disgusted with what you've become. Listen to it!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    That's the Democrats' entire playbook in the 21st century -- to champion the exact opposite position Republicans take, and act like it's righteous. Notice how much Democrats came to love Muslims after 9/11. You can't blame that one on Trump or anti-Trumpism.


    That's a fact.



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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's fantasyland to believe quicker test distribution would've saved mass lives.
    Either one or the other is living in a fantasy world:

    A) All those doctors, scientists and public health experts with decades of experience from around the world.

    B) A 48 year old with no background in public health that specializes in limit holdem, internet forums and pwning the libs.

    Does B really make sense to you?

    There's gotta be a little voice in your head that's disgusted with what you've become. Listen to it!
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    Only Fake News Calls Biden Winner


     
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    About two months from now...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    I stay to myself and keep out of trouble and/or potentially problematic scenarios

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    “What’s past is prologue” - Joel Osteen

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    "In their conversation, Graham questioned Raffensperger about the state’s signature-matching law and whether political bias could have prompted poll workers to accept ballots with nonmatching signatures, according to Raffensperger. Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said.

    Raffspenger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots. Absent court intervention, Raffensperger doesn’t have the power to do what Graham suggested, as counties administer elections in Georgia.

    “It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,” he said."


    https://www.mediaite.com/election-20...legal-ballots/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel72 View Post
    Fraud is massive

    shut the fuck up daniel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's fantasyland to believe quicker test distribution would've saved mass lives.
    Either one or the other is living in a fantasy world:

    A) All those doctors, scientists and public health experts with decades of experience from around the world.

    B) A 48 year old with no background in public health that specializes in limit holdem, internet forums and pwning the libs.

    Does B really make sense to you?

    There's gotta be a little voice in your head that's disgusted with what you've become. Listen to it!
    You can keep saying "listen to the experts", but that's nonsense unless you can explain it in common-sense fashion.

    You have to understand that there are so many doctors and scientists out there that you can always find crackpot/biased/wrong "experts" to back your side. That's basically the tactic being used by the "COVID is a hoax" and "5G receptors are embedded in the vaccine" conspiracy theorists.

    COVID is not well-studied, even after 10 months. There simply hasn't been enough time. Many conclusions about COVID from the early months have been abandoned and deemed incorrect.

    It's also important to realize that doctors and scientists are often speaking theoretically, and not from a public policy standpoint. If we had 1 trillion tests, if they could all be easily distributed, and everyone could be mandated to take a COVID test every day (and if that result could be instantly known), then yes, testing would help. Therefore, one could say, "We would be doing better if we had more testing", and they'd be stating something correct.

    However, the above is obviously not feasible, or even close to feasible -- especially in the early days. For the reasons I already stated, testing would not have made a major dent in the United States COVID problem. In fact, testing sends people out of their homes (often on public transportation) when they likely have COVID, instead of keeping them away from the rest of the population. That's exactly what you DON'T want if you're trying to prevent early spread.

    Still waiting for someone with common sense to explain how we could have tested or contract traced ourselves out of this one in mid-February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    You can keep saying "listen to the experts", but that's nonsense unless you can explain it in common-sense fashion.

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    Again, this makes no sense.

    If you have no symptoms, you don't test.

    If you transmit most when you have no symptoms, tests won't stop it during that period.

    After symptoms, everyone just needs to stay home until better. Tests aren't needed for that. In fact, given the large number of false negatives, that's still the correct advice.

    It's fantasyland to believe quicker test distribution would've saved mass lives.
    That would be where contact tracing comes into play. At some point you either get ahead of the virus or get people to self quarantine. Instead of spreading the virus for 4 days they only do 2 and that all adds up.

    Testing also let's you know what Federal/State/County mandates are appropriate. Doing it blind is retarded.

    We've been through this few times already. None of this is new.
    Contact tracing only works at the very very beginning, from a public policy standpoint. It's a smart thing to do for your own personal contacts when coming down with COVID, but there's no way to contact trace people who have been out and about with COVID, previously believing themselves to be healthy.

    The symptoms of this virus are specific enough to where most people can figure out they have it without a test. When you notice the fatigue/dry cough combo, you stay away from everyone until that goes away, even if you can't get tested. If you've also lost smell/taste, and/or have a fever, then you especially do so. Public policy based upon hotspots can be done based upon hospitalizations, which give the same indicators that mass testing would. It's not rocket science.

    I'm not making the case that testing is useless. I'm making the case that it wasn't a "huge failure" that testing didn't ramp up faster in February. It was an inconvenience, but nothing which caused the virus to explode. That was going to happen either way. It's incredibly hard to contain something which is highly contagious and mainly spreads from pre-symptomatic people.

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    sonatine wants us to listen to the experts, but he can't explain in a few sentences why these "experts" are right.

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    sonatine, Andrew Cuomo had medical and scientific experts advising him when he made the policy to force NY nursing homes to take COVID-positive patients.

    The experts explained to him that, provided the nursing homes housed the COVID patients in separate wings from the non-COVID residents, it would be safe.

    Were these "experts" correct or incorrect?

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    could we have even done more early testing if we wanted to? i remember massive delays with covid tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    sonatine wants us to listen to the experts, but he can't explain in a few sentences why these "experts" are right.

    Huh? Wear a mask because it helps to prevent others from being infected by you. Stay away from anyone you can. It's literally black plague level common sense.

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