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    Did you guys hear about the Trump pardon of a foreign fugitive from justice, who was convicted of tax evasion and committing major violations involving US embargoes against Iran?

    The guy was hiding in Switzerland for years, in order to flee justice, and Trump pardoned him.

    And guess what? It was found out that the guy funneled millions of dollars through his ex-wife as a "donation" to Trump for building his future Presidential Library, and that pardon came shortly thereafter.

    Can you believe this shit? Trump is so corrupt!!!!!!!



    Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton, not Trump. Sorry for the confusion.


     
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    The funniest thing is the poorly educated (as Trump calls them) can't seem to vote in their own best interests because.... wait for it....it's almost like some group of elites do everything in their power to keep them poorly educated. Shocking...but somehow a nonexistent threat to the 2nd amendment is the actual opiate for the masses.
    The "poorly educated" white people are constantly told how privileged they are by your party.

    They are instructed to feel guilty for all that privilege they enjoy. Then they go off to their dead-end, low-wage, repetitive jobs with no opportunity for advancement, and go to sleep in a small town where the cycle is likely to perpetuate for their kids.

    Then they wake up to see Joe Biden tell them that their tax dollars are going to help pay for the unpaid college loans of doctors and lawyers. Because if there's one segment of the US population badly in need of government assistance, it's doctors and lawyers!

    Then a rich liberal stops in the town to gas up their Mercedes, on the way to their beautiful mountain cabin. They look around at the poor white folk with Trump bumper stickers on their beat-up cars and ask, "Why would these fools vote against their own interests?? Boy are they gullible!"

    The poorly educated are generally racist assholes who think they're good Christians except when it's time to wear a mask to protect their neighbors. Props for taking up their cause but heads up the silent majority is dumb as hell. Trust me on this one. I've spent waaaay more time in deep red country than you have.

    And yeah poorly educated people being anti-union and against affordable healthcare is ridiculous.

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    The crazy cultists who run the Supreme Court ruled this evening that other crazy cultists can hold super important gatherings to share covid with each other and then ultimately all of us. The religious right can't be bothered to zoom their church for a few more months. Neat.

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    I don't understand this post. My post was to rum dick.
    He has even less self-awareness than you, so you're fighting an uphill battle.
    Critical thinking is not a Sobchak trait due to Sobchak inbreeding since your daddy is also your uncle. Mr. Sobchak.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
    The crazy cultists who run the Supreme Court ruled this evening that other crazy cultists can hold super important gatherings to share covid with each other and then ultimately all of us. The religious right can't be bothered to zoom their church for a few more months. Neat.
    How did they rule on the gatherings of thousands to burn/loot/riot?
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    1.8 million ballots mailed out.
    2.5 million ballots returned.

    So the Pennsylvania mail-in vote was a huge success.
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    Trump should also pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange so they can come home and tell their extensive knowledge of the criminal activity of Russiagate fraudsters, Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The "poorly educated" white people are constantly told how privileged they are by your party.

    They are instructed to feel guilty for all that privilege they enjoy. Then they go off to their dead-end, low-wage, repetitive jobs with no opportunity for advancement, and go to sleep in a small town where the cycle is likely to perpetuate for their kids.

    Then they wake up to see Joe Biden tell them that their tax dollars are going to help pay for the unpaid college loans of doctors and lawyers. Because if there's one segment of the US population badly in need of government assistance, it's doctors and lawyers!

    Then a rich liberal stops in the town to gas up their Mercedes, on the way to their beautiful mountain cabin. They look around at the poor white folk with Trump bumper stickers on their beat-up cars and ask, "Why would these fools vote against their own interests?? Boy are they gullible!"

    The poorly educated are generally racist assholes who think they're good Christians except when it's time to wear a mask to protect their neighbors. Props for taking up their cause but heads up the silent majority is dumb as hell. Trust me on this one. I've spent waaaay more time in deep red country than you have.

    And yeah poorly educated people being anti-union and against affordable healthcare is ridiculous.
    Yes, I remember you discussing living in an area for awhile full of lower-middle-class white red state types. Coronado, right?

    Kidding, kidding.

    But I do know you lived in such a place. That's why I'm surprised your understanding of these people and their voting habits read like New York liberal talking points.

    If you can't see how today's Democratic Party (and its politicans) are hostile to these people and their interests, I don't know what to tell you. Team Feelings likes to blame it on these voters "clinging to their racism", but that's not really it -- at least not for the vast majority of them.

    The modern left has become so extreme and so identity-politicking that the lower-middle class white is basically left out of their platform. I mean, we even had duped_samartian here arguing with me that these people are actually privileged. That's how idiotic it's gotten.

    Much like how your wife will fuck her asshole co-worker if you constantly neglect and degrade her, the white red-state voter will run to a guy like Trump if you constantly neglect and degrade them. It's not racism, it's not "wanting to preserve the Christian patriarchy", and it's not rocket science to figure out what happened.

    Regarding "affordable" healthcare, I agree that would be great. Cost and billing reform is very much needed in US healthcare. But if you mean "socialized" healthcare, I don't think that's a very good idea for these small towns, unless you think having an 8-month wait to see a specialist within a 150-mile radius denotes progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
    The crazy cultists who run the Supreme Court ruled this evening that other crazy cultists can hold super important gatherings to share covid with each other and then ultimately all of us. The religious right can't be bothered to zoom their church for a few more months. Neat.
    How did you feel about the BLM protests in June?

    Did those tremendously bother you as irresponsible and dangerous, COVID-wise? How did you feel about the media and leftist politicians praising them as beautiful?

    Because if those are okay and legal, then religious services (where, you know, nothing is destroyed and nobody is hurt or killed) should be totally okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
    The crazy cultists who run the Supreme Court ruled this evening that other crazy cultists can hold super important gatherings to share covid with each other and then ultimately all of us. The religious right can't be bothered to zoom their church for a few more months. Neat.
    They suck

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    You can do it. You can quit watching Fox News.

    It's not real news anyway.

    Repeat after me "Hillary Clinton does not run a pedophile ring out of a pizzeria".



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    The poorly educated are generally racist assholes who think they're good Christians except when it's time to wear a mask to protect their neighbors. Props for taking up their cause but heads up the silent majority is dumb as hell. Trust me on this one. I've spent waaaay more time in deep red country than you have.

    And yeah poorly educated people being anti-union and against affordable healthcare is ridiculous.
    Yes, I remember you discussing living in an area for awhile full of lower-middle-class white red state types. Coronado, right?

    Kidding, kidding.

    But I do know you lived in such a place. That's why I'm surprised your understanding of these people and their voting habits read like New York liberal talking points.

    If you can't see how today's Democratic Party (and its politicans) are hostile to these people and their interests, I don't know what to tell you. Team Feelings likes to blame it on these voters "clinging to their racism", but that's not really it -- at least not for the vast majority of them.

    The modern left has become so extreme and so identity-politicking that the lower-middle class white is basically left out of their platform. I mean, we even had duped_samartian here arguing with me that these people are actually privileged. That's how idiotic it's gotten.

    Much like how your wife will fuck her asshole co-worker if you constantly neglect and degrade her, the white red-state voter will run to a guy like Trump if you constantly neglect and degrade them. It's not racism, it's not "wanting to preserve the Christian patriarchy", and it's not rocket science to figure out what happened.

    Regarding "affordable" healthcare, I agree that would be great. Cost and billing reform is very much needed in US healthcare. But if you mean "socialized" healthcare, I don't think that's a very good idea for these small towns, unless you think having an 8-month wait to see a specialist within a 150-mile radius denotes progress.

    They have a far better healthcare infrastructure in Ohio and PA than it sounds like you do in LA. They did previous to even Obamacare. Like I dated a single mom right after I got divorced who had PA state health care, and the entire network was just eventually morphed into Obamacare. Like I could go to this place now being on my own self pay network if I had emergency and lived in PA. I might have a wait for a week for a dentist here in Ohio, but I’m choosing the best guy. Dental is fucked on almost all insurances, private or more socialized. When I lived in Pittsburgh and had fantastic insurance, getting into most shit was harder for me than for a single mom.

    This building here was around in 2007 when I was around. I went to it when I was with this chick. Same doctors who have private practices, just lower class people in waiting room.

    https://primary-health.net/LocationDetail.aspx?id=8

    That’s not some rundown hood building.

    Here in Ohio, I get into shit way quicker than you do, and we are roughly on the same type of self pay insurance I would guess. There is no distinction like in PA where they have primary health care network. Back when I was sick and lived in PA, I would have loved to have them as an option as they were easier to get into.

    My primary and any specialist takes it just like they take Blue Cross or any type insurance. It actually is one of the larger companies.

    There are places where you’d have to drive 45 minutes in the country, but you would to grocery shop or do anything beyond buy gas and whatever snacks at some small gas station store. They don’t have specialists out there in the super rural areas. They have some 71 year old local family doctor practicing everything from pediatrics to seeing seniors.

    The difference being the health networks will come pick you up and drive you to doctor, not the grocery store.

    There are a few issues where if Republicans even got their way, they’d lose areas as red as Mississippi. All these anti-government rural people have food cards. When you’re in the country, it’s no different than the hood as far as percentage of people on food aid. They’re mostly on Medicaid. Most pay no taxes.

    You’re correct that they feel let down, and you’re correct that they’ve felt neglected or talked down to, mostly because of decades long irritation from trying to explain to a bunch of anti-government loons worried about socialism that their entire lives are already socialism. They’re completely subsidized. It’s amazingly frustrating to hear people who you know don’t pay taxes, for groceries, for medical care, bitch about socialism. They don’t only not pay taxes, they get like $5k refunds at tax time and bitch about socialism. After decades of that, yeah you get condescending, and they have now moved in with someone who would let them die on the street corner and their only lifelines came from Dem periods.

    They are racist, but no more than the suburbs. They’re racist in the sense that they bitch about socialism and government handout and have this amazing disconnect and cognitive dissonance that they are on the same programs. I’ve known anti-Obamacare people who are on Obamacare. They literally don’t know it.

    Let the GOP ever get their way on entitlements and let these people wake up to paying for their own food, health care, abortion, and and actually paying taxes, and they’d tucking riot and lose their minds. They’d just all OD.

    The one takeaway you get when you’re from a town like I am that has a lot of hood, and then spend time in the country, isn’t the differences, it’s the similarities.

    Same weird shit that you shake your head at if you’re from a suburb and had normal suburban upbringing. Do it yourself auto-repair. Filling out fake unemployment shit during the pandemic. Everyone getting free food. Every girl having babies everywhere, and kids graduating high school without college as an option or their focus. Weird family secrets and higher rates of addiction and molestation and the same we don’t call cops attitude when it’s their family. They’ll post Facebook memes about supporting police, but rarely call them either.

    If you ever spend any time in the hood for real, you just feel the generational dysfunction oozing out of the people. The country feels exactly the same. Let the Republicans ever get their way on some issues and let these people wake up, and it would be game over.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Did you guys hear about the Trump pardon of a foreign fugitive from justice, who was convicted of tax evasion and committing major violations involving US embargoes against Iran?

    The guy was hiding in Switzerland for years, in order to flee justice, and Trump pardoned him.

    And guess what? It was found out that the guy funneled millions of dollars through his ex-wife as a "donation" to Trump for building his future Presidential Library, and that pardon came shortly thereafter.

    Can you believe this shit? Trump is so corrupt!!!!!!!



    Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton, not Trump. Sorry for the confusion.


    Do you want someone to do George HW Bush pardoning the Iran Contra guys now? Is that what you're going for? You can do the culture war us verses them?

    Setting up your political views to be anti-opponent has ruined you. Very sad. I know you aren't stupid. You're stubborn and myopic, but everyone has faults. But these days you've really poisoned your brain with the gruel stuffed in from the right wing internet grievance mill.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Yes, I remember you discussing living in an area for awhile full of lower-middle-class white red state types. Coronado, right?

    Kidding, kidding.

    But I do know you lived in such a place. That's why I'm surprised your understanding of these people and their voting habits read like New York liberal talking points.

    If you can't see how today's Democratic Party (and its politicans) are hostile to these people and their interests, I don't know what to tell you. Team Feelings likes to blame it on these voters "clinging to their racism", but that's not really it -- at least not for the vast majority of them.

    The modern left has become so extreme and so identity-politicking that the lower-middle class white is basically left out of their platform. I mean, we even had duped_samartian here arguing with me that these people are actually privileged. That's how idiotic it's gotten.

    Much like how your wife will fuck her asshole co-worker if you constantly neglect and degrade her, the white red-state voter will run to a guy like Trump if you constantly neglect and degrade them. It's not racism, it's not "wanting to preserve the Christian patriarchy", and it's not rocket science to figure out what happened.

    Regarding "affordable" healthcare, I agree that would be great. Cost and billing reform is very much needed in US healthcare. But if you mean "socialized" healthcare, I don't think that's a very good idea for these small towns, unless you think having an 8-month wait to see a specialist within a 150-mile radius denotes progress.

    They have a far better healthcare infrastructure in Ohio and PA than it sounds like you do in LA. They did previous to even Obamacare. Like I dated a single mom right after I got divorced who had PA state health care, and the entire network was just eventually morphed into Obamacare. Like I could go to this place now being on my own self pay network if I had emergency and lived in PA. I might have a wait for a week for a dentist here in Ohio, but I’m choosing the best guy. Dental is fucked on almost all insurances, private or more socialized. When I lived in Pittsburgh and had fantastic insurance, getting into most shit was harder for me than for a single mom.

    This building here was around in 2007 when I was around. I went to it when I was with this chick. Same doctors who have private practices, just lower class people in waiting room.

    https://primary-health.net/LocationDetail.aspx?id=8

    That’s not some rundown hood building.

    Here in Ohio, I get into shit way quicker than you do, and we are roughly on the same type of self pay insurance I would guess. There is no distinction like in PA where they have primary health care network. Back when I was sick and lived in PA, I would have loved to have them as an option as they were easier to get into.

    My primary and any specialist takes it just like they take Blue Cross or any type insurance. It actually is one of the larger companies.

    There are places where you’d have to drive 45 minutes in the country, but you would to grocery shop or do anything beyond buy gas and whatever snacks at some small gas station store. They don’t have specialists out there in the super rural areas. They have some 71 year old local family doctor practicing everything from pediatrics to seeing seniors.

    The difference being the health networks will come pick you up and drive you to doctor, not the grocery store.

    There are a few issues where if Republicans even got their way, they’d lose areas as red as Mississippi. All these anti-government rural people have food cards. When you’re in the country, it’s no different than the hood as far as percentage of people on food aid. They’re mostly on Medicaid. Most pay no taxes.

    You’re correct that they feel let down, and you’re correct that they’ve felt neglected or talked down to, mostly because of decades long irritation from trying to explain to a bunch of anti-government loons worried about socialism that their entire lives are already socialism. They’re completely subsidized. It’s amazingly frustrating to hear people who you know don’t pay taxes, for groceries, for medical care, bitch about socialism. They don’t only not pay taxes, they get like $5k refunds at tax time and bitch about socialism. After decades of that, yeah you get condescending, and they have now moved in with someone who would let them die on the street corner and their only lifelines came from Dem periods.

    They are racist, but no more than the suburbs. They’re racist in the sense that they bitch about socialism and government handout and have this amazing disconnect and cognitive dissonance that they are on the same programs. I’ve known anti-Obamacare people who are on Obamacare. They literally don’t know it.

    Let the GOP ever get their way on entitlements and let these people wake up to paying for their own food, health care, abortion, and and actually paying taxes, and they’d tucking riot and lose their minds. They’d just all OD.

    The one takeaway you get when you’re from a town like I am that has a lot of hood, and then spend time in the country, isn’t the differences, it’s the similarities.

    Same weird shit that you shake your head at if you’re from a suburb and had normal suburban upbringing. Do it yourself auto-repair. Filling out fake unemployment shit during the pandemic. Everyone getting free food. Every girl having babies everywhere, and kids graduating high school without college as an option or their focus. Weird family secrets and higher rates of addiction and molestation and the same we don’t call cops attitude when it’s their family. They’ll post Facebook memes about supporting police, but rarely call them either.

    If you ever spend any time in the hood for real, you just feel the generational dysfunction oozing out of the people. The country feels exactly the same. Let the Republicans ever get their way on some issues and let these people wake up, and it would be game over.
    One reason Trump made so much headway with lower class whites and minorities is because of job creation. My extended family has been in rural Mississippi since the 1830's. I know rural Mississippi and its people like the back of my hand. They're not rich people but they all want to work. They don't want government handouts. The 2008 meltdown crushed many of them. The jobs left and only some of them came back at a slow trickle. When Trump came in all of a sudden jobs were being created they were happy as a pig in mud. Biden scares the shit out of them because they already have lived thru democrat empty promises...and they have lived thru establishment republican bullshit too.

    Another thing, Trump was all over illegal immigration. Rural Mississippians ate that up. When I was growing up there wasn't one Mexican in Scott County, Mississippi. Today its 10% Mexicans. The main industry in the county is chickens. You like that fried chicken you eat or those whole cooked chickens in the grocery store. They may have come from Scott County.

    The chicken business ain't small business anymore. The processing plants are owned by huge conglomerates. They use the mexican labor to keep wages down on Scott Countians. Hard to get a raise while broke ass mexicans are willing to work for nothing. Trump rang Mississippian's bells with his stance on illegal immigration. They ate it up.

    Before you go into your "Crimm's a racist" rant look up the wiki page. Scott County is 40% black and they don't like mexicans taking their jobs either.

    I know my own people. They're god fearin' hard working people. They want good jobs and to pay there own way. That's what makes a proud healthy people. They don't want government handout bullshit that keeps people on the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Did you guys hear about the Trump pardon of a foreign fugitive from justice, who was convicted of tax evasion and committing major violations involving US embargoes against Iran?

    The guy was hiding in Switzerland for years, in order to flee justice, and Trump pardoned him.

    And guess what? It was found out that the guy funneled millions of dollars through his ex-wife as a "donation" to Trump for building his future Presidential Library, and that pardon came shortly thereafter.

    Can you believe this shit? Trump is so corrupt!!!!!!!



    Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton, not Trump. Sorry for the confusion.


    Do you want someone to do George HW Bush pardoning the Iran Contra guys now? Is that what you're going for? You can do the culture war us verses them?

    Setting up your political views to be anti-opponent has ruined you. Very sad. I know you aren't stupid. You're stubborn and myopic, but everyone has faults. But these days you've really poisoned your brain with the gruel stuffed in from the right wing internet grievance mill.
    The Bushes showed their true colors when they backed Hillary over Trump. They're bags of shit RINO's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Did you guys hear about the Trump pardon of a foreign fugitive from justice, who was convicted of tax evasion and committing major violations involving US embargoes against Iran?

    The guy was hiding in Switzerland for years, in order to flee justice, and Trump pardoned him.

    And guess what? It was found out that the guy funneled millions of dollars through his ex-wife as a "donation" to Trump for building his future Presidential Library, and that pardon came shortly thereafter.

    Can you believe this shit? Trump is so corrupt!!!!!!!



    Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton, not Trump. Sorry for the confusion.


    Do you want someone to do George HW Bush pardoning the Iran Contra guys now? Is that what you're going for? You can do the culture war us verses them?

    Setting up your political views to be anti-opponent has ruined you. Very sad. I know you aren't stupid. You're stubborn and myopic, but everyone has faults. But these days you've really poisoned your brain with the gruel stuffed in from the right wing internet grievance mill.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Do you want someone to do George HW Bush pardoning the Iran Contra guys now? Is that what you're going for? You can do the culture war us verses them?

    Setting up your political views to be anti-opponent has ruined you. Very sad. I know you aren't stupid. You're stubborn and myopic, but everyone has faults. But these days you've really poisoned your brain with the gruel stuffed in from the right wing internet grievance mill.



    etc etc
    Yeah, this is perfect.

    There was a time when Druff would give his actual opinion of Flynn's pardon and a long post on pardons in general. Or post something about the Parler breach instead of just culture war stuff.

    I just didn't expect Druff to be the most prolific shit posting troll on his own forum.

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