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    Fish you were saying “experts” don’t get involved in telling politicians what to do? You might want to watch this
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    https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1289358765829918721
    "Be as forceful as possible in getting people to wear masks"

    guy wants total control, and because of idiots like big dick, sonatine, druff, jimmyg, TheXRetard that just do as they're told(boot lickers) they're not gonna stop testing us to see how far they can take control

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    Jesus Christ, scientists give their expert opinions on how we should respond to a pandemic. They have no role in deciding what should be done if riots breakout during a pandemic. What the hell are you talking about? They just tell you what the science says, the governments/leaders decide what to do with that information and how to proceed.
    What planet are you on? You don’t think that science has been politicized?

    The scientists came out and said that “racism was also a pandemic” and not one of them condemned the protests and rioting. Meanwhile Fauci is telling people that Baseball shouldn’t be played this year, there should be no fans in the stands, schools shouldn’t open but now they should, masks don’t work but now they do, sex with strangers is Ok, but handshakes should be forever banished. Not one of them condemned the protests. Some of them actually said the protests posed no risk of spread LOL.

    These are the same people who recommended we crush our economy with no data supporting that lockdowns even work.

    As an aside, why do governors get to apply “science” only when it suits their interests? You don’t think this raises a credibility problem all around?

    But go ahead, put all your faith in fallible humans with fancy degrees who think men can get pregnant, should compete in women’s sports and are diligently applying critical race theory to STEM. It’s gonna turn out great.
    Scientists said "racism is a pandemic"? What the fuck are you talking about? And why would scientists condemn rioting? They're scientists FFS. Why would you care or want a scientist to condemn rioting? They are supposed to analysis data, why would you want scientists to give political opinions on rioting? Are you drunk? Jim Jordan tried to bait Fauci into giving a political opinion about riots. Fauci didn't fall for the bait and kept his answer general that all large gatherings should be avoided. That's the correct answer for a scientist to give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    What planet are you on? You don’t think that science has been politicized?

    The scientists came out and said that “racism was also a pandemic” and not one of them condemned the protests and rioting. Meanwhile Fauci is telling people that Baseball shouldn’t be played this year, there should be no fans in the stands, schools shouldn’t open but now they should, masks don’t work but now they do, sex with strangers is Ok, but handshakes should be forever banished. Not one of them condemned the protests. Some of them actually said the protests posed no risk of spread LOL.

    These are the same people who recommended we crush our economy with no data supporting that lockdowns even work.

    As an aside, why do governors get to apply “science” only when it suits their interests? You don’t think this raises a credibility problem all around?

    But go ahead, put all your faith in fallible humans with fancy degrees who think men can get pregnant, should compete in women’s sports and are diligently applying critical race theory to STEM. It’s gonna turn out great.
    Scientists said "racism is a pandemic"? What he fuck are you talking about? And why would scientists condemn rioting? They're scientists FFS. Why would you care are want a scientist to condemn rioting? They are supposed to analysis data, why would you want scientists to give political opinions on rioting? Are you drunk?
    by your logic, why are they giving politicians advice on anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    Scientists said "racism is a pandemic"? What he fuck are you talking about? And why would scientists condemn rioting? They're scientists FFS. Why would you care are want a scientist to condemn rioting? They are supposed to analysis data, why would you want scientists to give political opinions on rioting? Are you drunk?
    by your logic, why are they giving politicians advice on anything?
    They're giving government leadership their expert opinion on what should be done, the scientists have no power to enforce anything. It's up to leadership to decide what to do with that information. It's the same as generals giving their expert military advice about what should be done in a given situation, the president uses that information to make a final decision. Typically many factors need to be weighed that go into the final decision.

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    1. Racism isn’t a public health crisis, obesity is.

    2. Shove your vaccine up your ass.

    3. Choke yourself with your mask.

    4. Scientists are narrow minded nerd extremists.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    by your logic, why are they giving politicians advice on anything?
    They're giving government leadership their expert opinion on what should be done, the scientists have no power to enforce anything. It's up to leadership to decide what to do with that information. It's the same as generals giving their expert military advice about what should be done in a given situation, the president uses that information to make a final decision. Typically many factors need to be weighed that go into the final decision.
    if we're supposed to be 6 feet apart and wearing masks according to the same experts, why won't they just say rioting and protesting is dangerous and could spread the virus?

    why won't they say this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    What planet are you on? You don’t think that science has been politicized?

    The scientists came out and said that “racism was also a pandemic” and not one of them condemned the protests and rioting. Meanwhile Fauci is telling people that Baseball shouldn’t be played this year, there should be no fans in the stands, schools shouldn’t open but now they should, masks don’t work but now they do, sex with strangers is Ok, but handshakes should be forever banished. Not one of them condemned the protests. Some of them actually said the protests posed no risk of spread LOL.

    These are the same people who recommended we crush our economy with no data supporting that lockdowns even work.

    As an aside, why do governors get to apply “science” only when it suits their interests? You don’t think this raises a credibility problem all around?

    But go ahead, put all your faith in fallible humans with fancy degrees who think men can get pregnant, should compete in women’s sports and are diligently applying critical race theory to STEM. It’s gonna turn out great.
    Scientists said "racism is a pandemic"? What he fuck are you talking about? And why would scientists condemn rioting? They're scientists FFS. Why would you care or want a scientist to condemn rioting? They are supposed to analysis data, why would you want scientists to give political opinions on rioting? Are you drunk? Jim Jordan tried to bait Fauci into giving a political opinion about riots. Fauci didn't fall for the bait and kept his answer general that all large gathering should be avoided. That's the correct answer for a scientist to give.
    FFS, ok, then protesting. Why didn’t he give an opinion on protesting? His silence reveals everything you need to know. And yes, racism is being declared a public health crisis by many doctors and scientists across the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    They're giving government leadership their expert opinion on what should be done, the scientists have no power to enforce anything. It's up to leadership to decide what to do with that information. It's the same as generals giving their expert military advice about what should be done in a given situation, the president uses that information to make a final decision. Typically many factors need to be weighed that go into the final decision.
    if we're supposed to be 6 feet apart and wearing masks according to the same experts, why won't they just say rioting and protesting is dangerous and could spread the virus?

    why won't they say this?
    Because that's a highly politicized topic. Fauci already has said that large gatherings should be avoided which covers riots and KKK gatherings. Why would you want scientists to take political stances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    Scientists said "racism is a pandemic"? What he fuck are you talking about? And why would scientists condemn rioting? They're scientists FFS. Why would you care or want a scientist to condemn rioting? They are supposed to analysis data, why would you want scientists to give political opinions on rioting? Are you drunk? Jim Jordan tried to bait Fauci into giving a political opinion about riots. Fauci didn't fall for the bait and kept his answer general that all large gathering should be avoided. That's the correct answer for a scientist to give.
    FFS, ok, then protesting. Why didn’t he give an opinion on protesting? His silence reveals everything you need to know. And yes, racism is being declared a public health crisis by many doctors and scientists across the US.
    He said ALL LARGE GATHERINGS SHOULD BE AVOIDED. Do you think that includes protesting or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    if we're supposed to be 6 feet apart and wearing masks according to the same experts, why won't they just say rioting and protesting is dangerous and could spread the virus?

    why won't they say this?
    Because that's a highly politicized topic. Fauci already has said that large gatherings should be avoided which covers riots and KKK gatherings. Why would you want scientists to take political stances?
    BECAUSE HE ALREADY IS

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    FFS, ok, then protesting. Why didn’t he give an opinion on protesting? His silence reveals everything you need to know. And yes, racism is being declared a public health crisis by many doctors and scientists across the US.
    He said ALL LARGE GATHERINGS SHOULD BE AVOIDED. Do you think that includes protesting or not?
    Well then why can he specifically reference Baseball, Football The NBA and schools but not specifically protests?

    You sound like his lawyer. You really won’t admit his politics willfully stop him from specifically mentioning protests? Gimme a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    if we're supposed to be 6 feet apart and wearing masks according to the same experts, why won't they just say rioting and protesting is dangerous and could spread the virus?

    why won't they say this?
    Because that's a highly politicized topic. Fauci already has said that large gatherings should be avoided which covers riots and KKK gatherings. Why would you want scientists to take political stances?
    If lives are at stake why is he letting politics stop him from specifically mentioning it? Shouldn’t scientists be completely objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    He said ALL LARGE GATHERINGS SHOULD BE AVOIDED. Do you think that includes protesting or not?
    Well then why can he specifically reference Baseball, Football The NBA and schools but not specifically protests?

    You sound like his lawyer. You really won’t admit his politics willfully stop him from specifically mentioning protests? Gimme a break.
    The level of stupid is reaching an all time high in this thread.

    Doctors/scientists world wide are encouraging social distancing. Attending a pro sports event is a controlled environment. If the leagues/franchises want to prevent attendance they can and have done so. Not the same for public protests or motorcycle rallies at least not yet.

    Scientists/doctors cannot legislate anything they can only offer recommendations.

    Scientists base their recommendations on objective facts. Political view points are not part of the equation

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    Because that's a highly politicized topic. Fauci already has said that large gatherings should be avoided which covers riots and KKK gatherings. Why would you want scientists to take political stances?
    If lives are at stake why is he letting politics stop him from specifically mentioning it? Shouldn’t scientists be completely objective?
    How don't you understand by not specifically mentioning it he is being objective and is avoiding the politics? The statement that all large gatherings should be avoided is objective as he can be. If he specifically said people shouldn't practice their first amendment right to protest during the pandemic that would be politicizing it. Your thinking is ass backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    If lives are at stake why is he letting politics stop him from specifically mentioning it? Shouldn’t scientists be completely objective?
    How don't you understand by not specifically mentioning it he is being objective and is avoiding the politics? The statement that all large gatherings should be avoided is objective as he can be. If he specifically said people shouldn't practice their first amendment right to protest during the pandemic that would be politicizing it. Your thinking is ass backwards.
    OK, what about the right to not wear a mask. He specifically encouraged governments to strongly enforce that everyone wear a mask. You don’t think masks are politicized? He gave an opinion specifically on that. Did you even watch the Tucker clip I posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    If lives are at stake why is he letting politics stop him from specifically mentioning it? Shouldn’t scientists be completely objective?
    How don't you understand by not specifically mentioning it he is being objective and is avoiding the politics? The statement that all large gatherings should be avoided is objective as he can be. If he specifically said people shouldn't practice their first amendment right to protest during the pandemic that would be politicizing it. Your thinking is ass backwards.
    Who were the only people allowed to gather in large crowds during this pandemic? You don’t think that deserves a direct mention and directive from health professionals?

    He’s literally putting his personal politics over public health by avoiding mentioning the biggest transmission vector during the pandemic. He’s a fucking fraud.

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    The funniest thing about this guy is he has never once presented evidence or data to back up any of his recommendations we’re just supposed to take his word like he’s a deity.

    Total fucking fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    How don't you understand by not specifically mentioning it he is being objective and is avoiding the politics? The statement that all large gatherings should be avoided is objective as he can be. If he specifically said people shouldn't practice their first amendment right to protest during the pandemic that would be politicizing it. Your thinking is ass backwards.
    OK, what about the right to not wear a mask. He specifically encouraged governments to strongly enforce that everyone wear a mask. You don’t think masks are politicized? He gave an opinion specifically on that. Did you even watch the Tucker clip I posted?
    It's his professional opinion that people should wear masks. Masks were politicized later, not by him, but by crazy people that somehow think this infringes on their rights. Sidenote, when you come to an intersection with a light do you think the government is infringing on your rights when you have to stop? Now that people can't smoke in doors at a public place, does that infringe on their rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    OK, what about the right to not wear a mask. He specifically encouraged governments to strongly enforce that everyone wear a mask. You don’t think masks are politicized? He gave an opinion specifically on that. Did you even watch the Tucker clip I posted?
    It's his professional opinion that people should wear masks. Masks were politicized later, not by him, but by crazy people that somehow think this infringes on their rights. Sidenote, when you come to an intersection with a light do you think the government is infringing on your rights when you have to stop? Now that people can't smoke in doors at a public place, does that infringe on their rights?
    You know he first recommended that masks don’t help much at all, right? What changed? Did he ever explain with evidence based science or data? Have you ever seen a study that proves masks work? Have you ever seen a study that shows lockdowns work?

    His professional opinion is not worth much when he shows no consistency and never shows any evidence or data for his recommendations. If you trust our government to not take a mile after slowly taking inches on our civil liberties I think you are the naive one.

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