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    They’re certainly financed. But regardless, there is some asset value and the bankruptcy process will determine what that is.

    You will cruise. Don’t fret. Just may be under a different brand. That may turn out to be a plus too.

    Let the Virgin gay guy take a look for instance.

    You know nothing of Gov Reagan, do you? Socialist California during your formative years damaged you
    You mean "socialist California" which, at the time, had reasonable sales, gasoline, and property taxes and low income tax?

    I'd like that California -- and Governor Reagan - back.
    You probably weren’t aware of your surroundings during Reagan.

    You probably became an aware adult during Brown

    Only way I can reconcile eagerness to bail out cruise lines.

    Big Daddy Governent always has unintended consequences
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    Also, I don't really want to see a major change in the cruise industry. I'd like to see a few modifications -- better medical care onboard, and elimination of the scammy mandatory tips which the line just pockets. I'd also like to see them stop with the bullshit restrictions which started a few years ago regarding bringing your own drinks onboard. Nowadays, even if you're carrying a water bottle back from a port, they confiscate it (and not for safety/hygienic reasons).

    However, the smart consumer can use cruises as a great value way to conveniently travel, especially to islands or other places which are difficult or impossible to reach. If you book at the right time (late), arrange your own shore excursions, avoid spending much money onboard (except for speciality dining), and avoid the fail casino (except for the blackjack tournament), you can get a nice vacation for cheap. If you know the dumb things to avoid doing (such as stuffing a family of 4 into an inside cabin), you can have a pleasant experience.

    I don't want to see that change. I don't want a situation where they change the entire model and the best stuff about cruising goes away.

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    I think the experience has become aggregator site low bid trash. I’ve stated before my last cruise was my last cruise.

    The resort fees you find in Vegas find a cruise ship parallel with tip-scamming and never ending up sell and on board hustle. Lousy experience.

    Branson or someone else might be bold enough to bolt some parts onto his brand which has never been low bid.

    I think it all needs a restart. Healthy thing

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    Iím in a bad mood and this cruise ship rescue is easy bashing

    Iíll cease and desist.

    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Iím in a bad mood and this cruise ship rescue is easy bashing

    Iíll cease and desist.

    Carry on.
    Correct me if im wrong San but what rescue are you talking about? Most Iíve seen is theybgetting rent for a month or two as a floating hotel for the government while on hiatus. No bail out, no loans..... what am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    I’m in a bad mood and this cruise ship rescue is easy bashing

    I’ll cease and desist.

    Carry on.
    Correct me if im wrong San but what rescue are you talking about? Most I’ve seen is theybgetting rent for a month or two as a floating hotel for the government while on hiatus. No bail out, no loans..... what am I missing?
    Druff’s going bailout.

    Correct me if I’m wrong


    I harbor (lol) some small fear of the Fed accidentally electrocuting us. Serious. My how TARP & QE is so much easier this time around. People had grave misgivings before and it was always assumed that it would be paid back - the national debt

    That cruise ship has sailed.
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    (except for the blackjack tournament),
    Please advise. Cue jewgold music. Love the show- you repeat yourself a lot. THat's fine. I've never heard this piece of wisdom, though. If you don't want to repeat, give me a show number and I'll relisten.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    You mean "socialist California" which, at the time, had reasonable sales, gasoline, and property taxes and low income tax?

    I'd like that California -- and Governor Reagan - back.
    You probably werenít aware of your surroundings during Reagan.

    You probably became an aware adult during Brown

    Only way I can reconcile eagerness to bail out cruise lines.

    Big Daddy Governent always has unintended consequences
    I didn't say bail them out.

    Go back to my earlier post.

    I said that, if anything is to be done, it would be a loan with a US-flag condition. If they don't want that, let 'em burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerpiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    (except for the blackjack tournament),
    Please advise. Cue jewgold music. Love the show- you repeat yourself a lot. THat's fine. I've never heard this piece of wisdom, though. If you don't want to repeat, give me a show number and I'll relisten.

    Thanks.
    In short, casino is shit for the most part. Bad machines, bad BJ rules, etc.

    Poker 10% rake as you mentioned.

    BJ tournament has such a big edge for players with a clue that you can usually overcome rake. It's done by a leaderboard. They have it posted. You wait until 2nd to last round to enter, then bet enough to catch the last person on leaderboard. Often it will be low and you can just minbet most of the way and let your opponents hang themselves. Sometimes they only take one leader from each table, and if there aren't enough tables to fill the leaderboard, you just min bet until someone gets way ahead.

    Then at final table do same min betting strategy until someone gets ahead.

    There's a lot of variance and usually only one winner, but usually entry is $20 and prize is $500. So if you win more than 4% of the time, which you will, it's +EV.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerpiper View Post

    Please advise. Cue jewgold music. Love the show- you repeat yourself a lot. THat's fine. I've never heard this piece of wisdom, though. If you don't want to repeat, give me a show number and I'll relisten.

    Thanks.
    In short, casino is shit for the most part. Bad machines, bad BJ rules, etc.

    Poker 10% rake as you mentioned.

    BJ tournament has such a big edge for players with a clue that you can usually overcome rake. It's done by a leaderboard. They have it posted. You wait until 2nd to last round to enter, then bet enough to catch the last person on leaderboard. Often it will be low and you can just minbet most of the way and let your opponents hang themselves. Sometimes they only take one leader from each table, and if there aren't enough tables to fill the leaderboard, you just min bet until someone gets way ahead.

    Then at final table do same min betting strategy until someone gets ahead.

    There's a lot of variance and usually only one winner, but usually entry is $20 and prize is $500. So if you win more than 4% of the time, which you will, it's +EV.
    Thanks Druff. That's pretty cool.

    My only issue would be the time value of money (ballin!) but this is good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerpiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    In short, casino is shit for the most part. Bad machines, bad BJ rules, etc.

    Poker 10% rake as you mentioned.

    BJ tournament has such a big edge for players with a clue that you can usually overcome rake. It's done by a leaderboard. They have it posted. You wait until 2nd to last round to enter, then bet enough to catch the last person on leaderboard. Often it will be low and you can just minbet most of the way and let your opponents hang themselves. Sometimes they only take one leader from each table, and if there aren't enough tables to fill the leaderboard, you just min bet until someone gets way ahead.

    Then at final table do same min betting strategy until someone gets ahead.

    There's a lot of variance and usually only one winner, but usually entry is $20 and prize is $500. So if you win more than 4% of the time, which you will, it's +EV.
    Thanks Druff. That's pretty cool.

    My only issue would be the time value of money (ballin!) but this is good advice.
    Oh yeah, you ain't getting rich from this.

    Just for fun where you know you're not getting raped by -EV betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post


    Theyíre certainly financed. But regardless, there is some asset value and the bankruptcy process will determine what that is.

    You will cruise. Donít fret. Just may be under a different brand. That may turn out to be a plus too.

    Let the Virgin gay guy take a look for instance.

    You know nothing of Gov Reagan, do you? Socialist California during your formative years damaged you
    You mean "socialist California" which, at the time, had reasonable sales, gasoline, and property taxes and low income tax?

    I'd like that California -- and Governor Reagan - back.
    This is likely how Reagan would look today just saying.

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    Donít bail out the cruise industry

    Trump said itís a Ďprime candidate,í but there are plenty of reasons not to

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/23/2...-companies-tax

    Coronavirus pandemic tests clout of cruise industry and its long-standing ties to Trump

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e25_story.html

    Fuck the cruise industry and Donald Trump.


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    10 dead, over 800 test positive in coronavirus outbreaks on Princess cruises, CDC says

    They should use it in their advertising.

    Apply for their credit card...






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