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    yellen felt excluded from some key decisions apparently.

    burry's schtick is tedious but when he says 'this might be worse than 2008' im not really sure thats a reach. not because 'things are going to be worse for consumers than 2008' but because on math, the market has a lot more meat on its bones to get torn off before it finds whatever constitutes true value. like the styrofoam in the gas in 2008 were the CDOs, today its just cash. im not sure where that leaves us but it really doesnt feel like theres some sort of valid equivalency there.

    also another burry clownshow moment is his obsession over fraud as marker for a bubble in 2008 but somehow in 2022 he has fuckall to say about crypto being the biggest financial black hole since (literally) dutch tulips.

    the bell is tolling for elon and its nice to see. someone just prototyped a battery that gets 200 miles range charge in like 5.6 minutes. tesla might be the easiest short we will ever see again, pending trump turning up another public offering sosh media empire.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    It feels so dated. There is no mention of our beloved Treasuries Tellafriend.

    The following is such an embarrassing demonstration of my fairly pedestrian understanding of finance but here we go cause I love this game right now more than the NFL.

    Japan has been trying to do yield curve control. They still insist they want their rates to be near zero. (jPN inflation rate is very very low - but I digress)

    * Japan prints yen.

    * Japan takes yen with wet ink and buys their bonds. This bids up bond price and lowers the return (effective interest rate). Success!

    * Japanís yen (oops) declines in the world FX market cause they are printing like mad.

    * Japan sells lots of their US Treasuries to get US dollars which they then use to buy yen on the open market and bid up their price. Japan has been historically and famously one of the biggest buyers of our debt. Thatís history. Now they are selling like a mofo.

    You can actually see when they sell. Last Thursday at 4:30am if I recall you could see huge spikes everywhere. Made the news.

    Japan is just an example. Everyone needs dollars as the milkshake guy points out. Everyone has Treasuries to sell to one degree or another. This puts pressure on the T Bill market and increases yield. Liquidity becomes a concern cause who da fuck is buying them except Daly or a Central Bank?

    Bonds make the stock market look like a small poker home game. Itís a monster. We need to remind ourselves cause shorting TSLA and all that is more fun.

    a lot to take in here, San.

    did i mention how easy it has been scalping SQQQ options on the daily?

    went long on the vix dec 30 today. seems so easy. i must be missing something.

    offhand, if china continues their dump, then where will we be?

    it's all a house of cards. let a nuke go off, accidental or not.

    the tide is going out, San.

    It's all good until the music stops; just hope i have a chair.
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    i hear BoJ actually intercedes in FX quite often so i wouldnt read too much into that chapter btw.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    i hear BoJ actually intercedes in FX quite often so i wouldnt read too much into that chapter btw.
    They were buying bonds not currency …. That’s easing which is note worthy in inflationary times.

    It was pretty much unlimited easing given the issue.

     
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    You still have those tickets to the Emergency Fed Meeting tomorrow Sonatine?

    Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse & Australia Central Bank has no equity. BoE and BoJ. Hope they have those little pastries we like.

    Just gotta shave my head and find my ashes and tunic. Meet you on the hill outside town.

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    china just bailed out its real estate sector with 84 bn in financing. it'll make for a good distraction and probably lend a sense of stability across the board.

    so yeah, october pop is burned in, then drop to spx 3400'ish? 'valuetown' thread on other site gets into it.


    cs is bad:

    160b Cash
    400b at call Liabilities
    900b Leveraged exposure
    40b Equity

    i dont think the fed meeting tomorrow is going to be anything radical, we just arent at max pain yet.. maybe db and cs forcing hands? its all so fucked up and complicated.
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    JUST IN - Elon Musk offers Twitter to proceed with deal at initial price, Bloomberg reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    JUST IN - Elon Musk offers Twitter to proceed with deal at initial price, Bloomberg reports.
    Not only list price but he sprung for all the options like everyone’s legal fees.

    SBF may bail Elon out

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    *MUSK: TWITTER OFFER PENDING RECEIPT OF DEBT FINANCING PROCEEDS


    lmao sure jan
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    ever wonder what we would have found out about Elon if Twitter went to discovery ?

     
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    Taking another jump into the fray with options. Going to keep it simple. In a bear market you sell the spike, so just going to do long puts after a rally. I decided just to focus on Amazon, as this is a stock that seems to do whatever the market overall does, just with a little more volatility. So if the market goes up/down 3%, Amazon does the same thing 5%.

    Anyways, just bought some Amazon puts at 119. So far so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    So if the market goes up/down 3%, Amazon does the same thing 5%.
    absolutely fucking speechless.

     
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    So if the market goes up/down 3%, Amazon does the same thing 5%.
    absolutely fucking speechless.
    Then again:

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    Just woke up and apparently the stock market is doing a thing and my Amazon put options are very much in the green. The question is do I take the W now, or get greedy and risk giving it all back.

    Anyone have any sense whether the market is going to make a comeback or keep going down today?

    Edit: Sold the shares at 116.20. Hopefully it doesn't keep going down and that was a bad move.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps View Post
    DKNG calls. go.
    Normally, we sell the news but I see what you did there.

    Normally, I hate casino stocks.


    As sports video/television evolves you are gonna click your remote or use voice command to place bets onscreen. Eliminating friction in betting. ESPN/Disney will have the content.

    You are gonna be open to the end zone tomorrow.

    I am going to pray over this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    DKNG calls. go.
    Normally, we sell the news but I see what you did there.

    Normally, I hate casino stocks.


    As sports video/television evolves you are gonna click your remote or use voice command to place bets onscreen. Eliminating friction in betting. ESPN/Disney will have the content.

    You are gonna be open to the end zone tomorrow.

    I am going to pray over this


    YUGE DK/ESPN DEAL. WELL, PERHAPS JUST A GROWING EXTENSION OF EXISTING DEAL, BUT ME LIKEY.
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