interesting...Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
would figure that sunday morning between like 6-10am might be the one time of the week that traffic would be semi-subdued...
and I thought getting in and out of philly was a bitch...
interesting...
would figure that sunday morning between like 6-10am might be the one time of the week that traffic would be semi-subdued...
and I thought getting in and out of philly was a bitch...
Can someone give me a quick recap of the rape case? Way before my time and before I was interested in sports from far-flung lands
Resort in colorado a house keeper gives him a tour
She agrees to come back to room to kiss
She put her hand on his penis
he bend her over chair and fucks her hard, ( I think he put it in her butt)
Strangled her a bit because he's into that
He asks to nut on her face, she says no so he doesn't
She files police report, gets rape kit done, had bruises on neck and blood on shirt
Kobe tells police no sex happened
Changes story after evidence comes out
Gets arrested
Says consensual not rape, goes to trial, spends $200k on lawyers, pretrial hearings take about a year
His lawyers find out a white guys pubes and semen were on her underwear also, start to smear her
Case is dropped when she refuses to testify
Settles civil suit, probably for around 2.5m
Buys wife a 4m diamond ring
The end
Air traffic control recording from the chopper.
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There’s no way you’re getting from Orange County to Thousand Oaks in less than an hour at 10am, it’s like 80 miles.interesting...
would figure that sunday morning between like 6-10am might be the one time of the week that traffic would be semi-subdued...
and I thought getting in and out of philly was a bitch...
And then there’s a 2 hour drive home.
Damn another beloved poker player iis dead. Doly brunson, rip. Its too much to take in.
Sick of hearing about this already.
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Which of these news story headlines doesn’t belong?
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HELICOPTER PILOT MISJUDGED TERRAIN
... Didn't Slow Down
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/27/kobe-...ain-slow-down/
Cause of crash: Pilot ErrorThe pilot of the helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 other passengers got in big trouble with fog -- they seemed to abort the trip and tried returning home, barely clearing one mountain range, but never slowed down ... this according to the flight tracker and several experienced helicopter pilots in the L.A. area.
As we reported, the pilot had to circle near the Downtown L.A. area -- near the L.A. Zoo -- for 15 minutes because of bad weather ahead. As we reported ... the LAPD had grounded its helicopter fleet because of fog at around the same time Kobe's helicopter took off.
The pilot was following a visual flight plan and was cleared by the tower to proceed north, toward Thousand Oaks where Kobe was taking his daughter for a basketball game. When he got to the Calabasas area, the fog became blinding.
As we reported, the pilot was way too low -- at 1,250 feet. The pilots we spoke with say it's clear based on the abrupt change on the flight tracker ... the pilot panicked and quickly ascended to 2,000 feet. We're told he cleared a mountain range by 100 feet, and the pilots we spoke with say he was so low he almost certainly saw the tops of the mountain.
The pilots we spoke with -- all of whom have extensive experience -- say based on the flight tracker and the accident scene, they believe the pilot felt he had cleared all of the mountains and was proceeding to head back when he hit another mountain. The pilot clearly did not know there were mountains ahead because he actually descended from 2,000 feet to 1,700 feet ... presumably to go under the fog.
Even more baffling, we've been told the pilot was extremely experienced flying in that area -- and was even a flight instructor. One seasoned helicopter pilot told TMZ, he could not understand why Kobe's pilot would have maintained a speed of 161 knots in such dense fog. One of the benefits of a helicopter is you can go much slower -- even 15 mph -- to gingerly avoid terrain if you're uncertain.
Our sources say the chopper was sophisticated and had an altitude warning signal to pull up, but it was too late. As we said, he was doing 161 knots and didn't slow down. The helicopter hit the mountain at that speed.
Several of the pilots we spoke with say the pilot should have gone up to clear the fog, rather than down. To that end, we're told the pilot could have slowed down to almost a stop as he turned, but didn't.
Pilot will receive a negative rating.
Interesting explanation as it doesn’t seem to completely match the air traffic controller video. In that video there is close to 30 seconds where the pilot won’t respond after being very responsive previously. I wonder if this limousine has a black box.HELICOPTER PILOT MISJUDGED TERRAIN
... Didn't Slow Down
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/27/kobe-...ain-slow-down/
Cause of crash: Pilot ErrorThe pilot of the helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 other passengers got in big trouble with fog -- they seemed to abort the trip and tried returning home, barely clearing one mountain range, but never slowed down ... this according to the flight tracker and several experienced helicopter pilots in the L.A. area.
As we reported, the pilot had to circle near the Downtown L.A. area -- near the L.A. Zoo -- for 15 minutes because of bad weather ahead. As we reported ... the LAPD had grounded its helicopter fleet because of fog at around the same time Kobe's helicopter took off.
The pilot was following a visual flight plan and was cleared by the tower to proceed north, toward Thousand Oaks where Kobe was taking his daughter for a basketball game. When he got to the Calabasas area, the fog became blinding.
As we reported, the pilot was way too low -- at 1,250 feet. The pilots we spoke with say it's clear based on the abrupt change on the flight tracker ... the pilot panicked and quickly ascended to 2,000 feet. We're told he cleared a mountain range by 100 feet, and the pilots we spoke with say he was so low he almost certainly saw the tops of the mountain.
The pilots we spoke with -- all of whom have extensive experience -- say based on the flight tracker and the accident scene, they believe the pilot felt he had cleared all of the mountains and was proceeding to head back when he hit another mountain. The pilot clearly did not know there were mountains ahead because he actually descended from 2,000 feet to 1,700 feet ... presumably to go under the fog.
Even more baffling, we've been told the pilot was extremely experienced flying in that area -- and was even a flight instructor. One seasoned helicopter pilot told TMZ, he could not understand why Kobe's pilot would have maintained a speed of 161 knots in such dense fog. One of the benefits of a helicopter is you can go much slower -- even 15 mph -- to gingerly avoid terrain if you're uncertain.
Our sources say the chopper was sophisticated and had an altitude warning signal to pull up, but it was too late. As we said, he was doing 161 knots and didn't slow down. The helicopter hit the mountain at that speed.
Several of the pilots we spoke with say the pilot should have gone up to clear the fog, rather than down. To that end, we're told the pilot could have slowed down to almost a stop as he turned, but didn't.
Pilot will receive a negative rating.
Are you serious? Well this explains the mass slayings. Carry on.L.A. traffic can be insanely bad especially on the 405 freeway.
It really begs the question:L.A. traffic can be insanely bad especially on the 405 freeway.
Why would a man with literally unlimited funds live in LA?
An 80 mile trip becomes a military operation. It’s ludicrous.
He was killed in the fight for quality of life.
Resort in colorado a house keeper gives him a tour
She agrees to come back to room to kiss
She put her hand on his penis
he bend her over chair and fucks her hard, ( I think he put it in her butt)
Strangled her a bit because he's into that
He asks to nut on her face, she says no so he doesn't
She files police report, gets rape kit done, had bruises on neck and blood on shirt
Kobe tells police no sex happened
Changes story after evidence comes out
Gets arrested
Says consensual not rape, goes to trial, spends $200k on lawyers, pretrial hearings take about a year
His lawyers find out a white guys pubes and semen were on her underwear also, start to smear her
Case is dropped when she refuses to testify
Settles civil suit, probably for around 2.5m
Buys wife a 4m diamond ring
The end
well done..that is about the best Chronological order of events i seen in a NUT-shell..lol GD Job
Exactly what my dad did in Vietnam.
Said he got doused in agent orange by an airplane and a few months later got sent home for some heart anomaly....happiest day of his life getting out of there.
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What a self absorbed douche. He’s not even the best player on that team.
How would it have looked if Kawhi destroyed the Lakers Tuesday?
canceling was the only solution other than assigning Scott Foster as referee.
Last edited by Sanlmar; 01-27-2020 at 07:18 PM.
He bought the helicopter to get to Lakers Home games and claims he played better because of it, which makes sense.It really begs the question:L.A. traffic can be insanely bad especially on the 405 freeway.
Why would a man with literally unlimited funds live in LA?
An 80 mile trip becomes a military operation. It’s ludicrous.
He was killed in the fight for quality of life.
I'm guessing he has his own helipad and pilot/crew who take care of the details and he's been doing it for decades(?) so it's no different than getting in a car for a normal person. Yesterday morning we'd all be jealous of these luxuries.
Updates: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/27/us/ca...day/index.html
Cliffs: As of a few hours ago, some bodies were still there. "Weather" was blamed, which confuses me since today was a nice day in LA.
They have passed an emergency law against going to the crash site, making it a misdemeanor. I'll be staying away for now, but I'll go once that gets lifted.
It was generally unsafe to be flying that morning due to the fog.
This is usually an excuse for a gruesome scene.
When this thing crashed, esp since helicopters are usually made of fiberglass/conductive material (and as seen in some of the actual photos), this thing probably combusted immediately upon impact with the mountain.
Its gonna take a while for authorities to recover parts/pieces of everything. Just terrible
Its also reported that the pilot for this flight was Kobe's personal pilot and had done many trips before.
Last edited by Shizzmoney; 01-27-2020 at 09:49 PM.
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