So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[ok25]

Assertively with zero doubt I called this engineered crisis DAY ONE

Are people like me more intelligent? who cares

Better at detecting BULLSHIT and vindicated completely in condemnation and prediction of every 'greater good' implementation being a FAILURE and CAUSING MORE HARM OVERALL

YOU'RE MOSTLY STILL ALL IN DENIAL

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE

You heard of long-term effects you shit for brains holders on?

You took part in a novel gene therapy trial who's results continue to roll..and it's looking BAD

Suck it

it's called common sense, some of us are cursed with it....

Not so common anymore. Cursed but nobody I previously valued bought into it. Most people will always respond to fear like a subordinate bitch unfortunately. Feel bad for the heavily pressured but the cheerleaders and enablers or anyone who got their children jabbed deserve slow and painful deaths. Absolute freak show cult behavior and swept under the rug faster than the gold medal curling team by the 'experts'

[ok25]

Druff, respect at least for allowing free discussion and not falling for all of it

Still a retard about 'vaccines' though and props for taking childish insults on the chin like you do, I hope you're all good.

Democrats are 20x as retarded as other partisan loyalists and their equivalents in similarly cultural and governed nations. BCR and the rest are truly worthless people. Brainwashed and belligerent pieces of trash.

[ok25]

Not covid related but the current government in NZ has policy supporting this affirmative action bullshit

I'm supposed to believe they have our best interests in mind? They are socialist criminal freaks



Joseph Martin had already left his partner unable to walk when he stomped on her ankle - and he inflicted further violence the next day when he beat her with a metal walking stick.

The beating last November was so severe she suffered two broken fingers, extensive bruising, swelling and welts to her body, a large blood clot to her right ear and a gash to her foot that needed stitching.

It has now resulted in yet another conviction for Martin, 47, who has an extensive criminal history. He already had at least 111 convictions when he was jailed in 2017 for being an accessory after the fact to manslaughter and attempting to pervert justice.

Martin was sentenced recently in Kaikohe District Court for the attack on his partner, receiving four months of community detention with an 8pm–6am curfew and 12 months of intensive supervision with judicial monitoring.

....

He told Martin he felt his remorse, "I feel your wairua [spirit] as you speak, as you gave your karakia [prayer].

He is sorry

Sentence discounts totalled 70 per cent – 25 per cent for Martin's early guilty pleas, 15 per cent for matters raised in a cultural report, 10 per cent for almost 12 months Martin spent on electronically monitored bail and a month on remand in custody, 5 per cent for his participation in restorative justice, and a further 15 per cent for his remorse and rehabilitative efforts.




https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...Q7Y3T65CHUBQQ/

[ok25]

08/31/2022Gilbert Berdine, MD Ryan McMaken

[Dr. Gilbert Berdine of the Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center and Ryan McMaken discuss the policy makers’ justifications for vaccine mandates over the past two years. Will any of these policy makers admit to any mistakes?]

Ryan McMaken: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) earlier this month greatly scaled back its recommendations for quarantine and social distancing. It also now makes the same recommendations “regardless of vaccination status.” In other words, the CDC now apparently does not regard vaccinated people as any less a public health risk than the unvaccinated. What does this tell us about where we are right now with the value of vaccination mandates as public policy at this point?

Dr. Gilbert Berdine: The vaccine mandates were based on assumptions. It was assumed that the vaccine prevented infection and transmission of virus. The mandates were justified as protection of vaccinated people from the unvaccinated. The new CDC policy recognizes that this assumption was incorrect. The CDC concedes that natural immunity from prior exposure to the virus is at least as effective as vaccination in preventing subsequent infection. The CDC concedes that vaccinated people are at least as likely to spread disease as unvaccinated people. The new policy also recognizes that at this point in time the vast majority of people have been exposed to viral antigen either by natural exposure or vaccination. Given our current knowledge about covid-19, the CDC can no longer justify a vaccine mandate at present based on protecting the public from unvaccinated people.

RM: Yet, the US government is still imposing vaccine mandates. The US military bureaucracy is still threatening to force out service members who refuse vaccination, and tennis player Novak Djokovik apparently can’t enter the country without proof of vaccination. What is the scientific basis for this?

GB: There is no scientific basis for a vaccine mandate. Unvaccinated people pose no risk to vaccinated people. The CDC admits this to be the case. The only possible justification for a vaccine mandate is a paternalistic argument that people need to be protected from their own decisions. Free people should not be treated as pets. This leads into the next question as to whether there is scientific evidence that the vaccine saves lives.

RM: In the past, you have noted that the public health benefit of the mandates has always been very limited, and an enormous number of vaccine doses has been necessary to prevent a small number of deaths. Is this still the case?

GB: I have previously noted that a very high number of vaccinations were required to prevent a single death when the vaccines were first made available based on the original Pfizer trials. The efficacy of the vaccine in preventing hospitalization from covid, ICU care for covid, and deaths attributed to covid has declined over time, so the number to vaccinate to prevent a death are higher than when I reported on this issue. At the time the vaccines were introduced, the risks were unknown given the small number of people in the trials. We now have data on adverse events from the vaccine. The VAERS database was created to detect adverse events from new vaccines that were missed during initial trials. Yet, the overwhelming signal coming from the VAERS database has been ignored. The life insurance industry has made public that deaths in 2021 were far above expectations from actuarial data. The CDC reports large numbers of excess deaths in 2021 that have persisted during 2022. These excess deaths cannot be explained by covid infection. Respiratory deaths have been average ever since approximately July 2020. It is cardiovascular deaths that are unexpectedly and unexplainably high. These cardiovascular deaths include strokes, heart attacks, sudden deaths attributed to arrhythmias, and congestive heart failure including unexpected cases of myocarditis. There have been numerous claims that the vaccines are responsible based on regression of mortality rates vs. vaccination rates. The CDC has the data to either confirm or reject the vaccine as a cause of the excess deaths, but the CDC refuses to release the data to the public.

RM: Now that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been around for nearly two years, has the federal government shown any interest in evaluating the efficacy of these vaccines or the problem of side effects? Surely, we know much more now, but do you think the federal government give a fair hearing to negative information about the effects of the mandates?

GB: The control group in the original vaccine trials were eliminated after 90 days. Everyone in the trial received the vaccine. There is no control group to monitor for long term adverse events. The excess deaths in 2021 that have persisted into 2022 are probably the biggest medical story at the current time, yet the CDC seems uninterested in finding an explanation. The CDC has the data that would either confirm or exclude the vaccine as the cause of these excess deaths, yet the CDC refuses to release this data. In my opinion, both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration have failed to be scientific organizations that protect the public from medical harm. Both organizations have become political in nature. This was a criticism of public funding of scientific research made by John Galt in the novel, Atlas Shrugged, and the prediction has become reality.

RM: Within the medical community, is it possible to criticize the mandates? One heard very little dissent on this in 2020. Is it possible to dissent more now?

GB: It is very risky for anyone in the medical community to criticize any aspect of covid policy. This includes mask policy, alternative therapies, vaccine mandates, or quarantines. Licensing boards, including the American Board of Internal Medicine, have threatened physicians with the loss of licensure for spreading “disinformation” about covid-19. Of course, disinformation has nothing to do with correct or incorrect information, but rather means anything that contradicts a political narrative. The practice of medicine is gradually being transformed from a scientific inquiry seeking fact into a religious cult accepting dogma under the threat of excommunication.
Authors:

Gilbert Berdine, MD

Gilbert Berdine is an associate professor of medicine at Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center and an affiliate of the Free Market Institute at Texas Tech University.

https://mises.org/wire/experts-still...ccine-mandates

[Dan Druff]

COVID has been known to bring on heart attacks, so "excess deaths due to cardiovascular causes" doesn't mean much for the vaccine. In 2020, those deaths were up as well, and there was no vaccine.

I do believe that the vaccine's safety has been long overstated and any questions about such have been mostly suppressed. However, there's no question that the COVID death rates were substantially higher in 2021 for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, especially for the middle-aged group where COVID deaths of vaccinated people was almost nonexistent.

The big questions are honestly:

1) Is the vaccine worth taking in 2022 for the non-elderly, or is its potential danger not worth any protection it brings from Omicron -- a much lesser form of COVID?

2) Should vaccines have ever been given to children, or was that a mistake?

3) Should vaccines have ever been given to people under 40, or was that also a mistake?


We may never get the answers. However, for my age group, there's no question that the vaccine was correct to take in 2020-21.

[devidee]

COVID has been known to bring on heart attacks, so "excess deaths due to cardiovascular causes" doesn't mean much for the vaccine. In 2020, those deaths were up as well, and there was no vaccine.

I do believe that the vaccine's safety has been long overstated and any questions about such have been mostly suppressed. However, there's no question that the COVID death rates were substantially higher in 2021 for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, especially for the middle-aged group where COVID deaths of vaccinated people was almost nonexistent.

The big questions are honestly:

1) Is the vaccine worth taking in 2022 for the non-elderly, or is its potential danger not worth any protection it brings from Omicron -- a much lesser form of COVID?

2) Should vaccines have ever been given to children, or was that a mistake?

3) Should vaccines have ever been given to people under 40, or was that also a mistake?


We may never get the answers. However, for my age group, there's no question that the vaccine was correct to take in 2020-21.

What is the difference between 99.99% and the actual survival rate of people with Covid age 40-49?

[ok25]

COVID has been known to bring on heart attacks, so "excess deaths due to cardiovascular causes" doesn't mean much for the vaccine. In 2020, those deaths were up as well, and there was no vaccine.

I do believe that the vaccine's safety has been long overstated and any questions about such have been mostly suppressed. However, there's no question that the COVID death rates were substantially higher in 2021 for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, especially for the middle-aged group where COVID deaths of vaccinated people was almost nonexistent.

The big questions are honestly:

1) Is the vaccine worth taking in 2022 for the non-elderly, or is its potential danger not worth any protection it brings from Omicron -- a much lesser form of COVID?

2) Should vaccines have ever been given to children, or was that a mistake?

3) Should vaccines have ever been given to people under 40, or was that also a mistake?


We may never get the answers. However, for my age group, there's no question that the vaccine was correct to take in 2020-21.

Keep coping Rain Man

They aren't a vaccine



You're in denial

You trust known liars STILL

Schmuck

[dwai]

COVID has been known to bring on heart attacks, so "excess deaths due to cardiovascular causes" doesn't mean much for the vaccine. In 2020, those deaths were up as well, and there was no vaccine.

I do believe that the vaccine's safety has been long overstated and any questions about such have been mostly suppressed. However, there's no question that the COVID death rates were substantially higher in 2021 for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, especially for the middle-aged group where COVID deaths of vaccinated people was almost nonexistent.

The big questions are honestly:

1) Is the vaccine worth taking in 2022 for the non-elderly, or is its potential danger not worth any protection it brings from Omicron -- a much lesser form of COVID?

2) Should vaccines have ever been given to children, or was that a mistake?

3) Should vaccines have ever been given to people under 40, or was that also a mistake?


We may never get the answers. However, for my age group, there's no question that the vaccine was correct to take in 2020-21.

Keep coping Rain Man

They aren't a vaccine



You're in denial

You trust known liars STILL

Schmuck

[ok25]

The control group in the original vaccine trials were eliminated after 90 days. Everyone in the trial received the vaccine. There is no control group to monitor for long term adverse events. The excess deaths in 2021 that have persisted into 2022 are probably the biggest medical story at the current time, yet the CDC seems uninterested in finding an explanation

[dwai]

COVID has been known to bring on heart attacks, so "excess deaths due to cardiovascular causes" doesn't mean much for the vaccine. In 2020, those deaths were up as well, and there was no vaccine.

I do believe that the vaccine's safety has been long overstated and any questions about such have been mostly suppressed. However, there's no question that the COVID death rates were substantially higher in 2021 for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, especially for the middle-aged group where COVID deaths of vaccinated people was almost nonexistent.

The big questions are honestly:

1) Is the vaccine worth taking in 2022 for the non-elderly, or is its potential danger not worth any protection it brings from Omicron -- a much lesser form of COVID?

2) Should vaccines have ever been given to children, or was that a mistake?

3) Should vaccines have ever been given to people under 40, or was that also a mistake?


We may never get the answers. However, for my age group, there's no question that the vaccine was correct to take in 2020-21.

[dwai]

HEY GOY YOUR VACCINE IS EXPIRED!
GET YOUR BOOSTER GOY

[dwai]

I remember faggots like bcr and JimmyG_415 screaming to keep the schools closed

[NaturalBornHustler]

I am not making any political statement with this comment, but I have been around a lot of kids wearing masks the last year, and honestly none of them have any problem with it. They just go about their lives normally with the masks on, including going to school, without any major inconvenience.

yeah its just a total non-issue for pretty much everyone who doesnt have a copy of The Turner Diaries next to their bible.

NAILED IT TINE THOSE KIDS ACTUALLY LOVED THOSE MASKS THAT MADE THEM ALL SEMI RETARDED DEAF MUTES NO HARM NO FOUL.

[devidee]

New study from Food and Chemical Toxicology Journal: "The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk of infectious diseases and cancer."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...7869152200206X


"The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health."

[devidee]

[dwai]

[dwai]

HORSE PASTE

[devidee]

[Entropy]

A dude I knew died today, under 40 massive heart attack. RIP
Idk vax status but there's certainly an uptick in deaths.

Scott Adam's thinks he has long covid.
6 min mark.

[Sidewinder]

Shout out to the 4 or 5 of us in this thread who turned our TVs off and read information outside the mainstream bubble.

Everyone else looks like a complete idiot.

Your government wants you in chains. Compliance tests like masks and vaccine mandates are part of the test. Congrats to those of us whom failed the test - the rest of you are A+ slaves in training.