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    Quote Originally Posted by ok25 View Post
    Just reminding the majority of brainless faggots here that trusted equally brainless and inept criminals, you're pathetic people and you were wrong about everything. LOL
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    fucking idiots like BCR, khalwat (mask nazi) and sonatine were wishing death upon "anti-vaxxers" meanwhile they bought the propaganda hook line and sinker, like they planned

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    One thing's for sure, next pandemic it's absolutely critical to lock down by force all right-wing districts.
    Ji Jinping style.
    You right wingers put humanity at risk with your refusal to follow the simplest rules like wearing a mask, next time we might not be so lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ok25 View Post
    Just reminding the majority of brainless faggots here that trusted equally brainless and inept criminals, you're pathetic people and you were wrong about everything. LOL
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    fucking idiots like BCR, khalwat (mask nazi) and sonatine were wishing death upon "anti-vaxxers" meanwhile they bought the propaganda hook line and sinker, like they planned
    Watching them bitch out and take their ball and go home is pretty funny, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS DWAI TILTIN DEM NIGGAZ for OVER A YEAR LOL LOL SFO!111111

     
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    Hey this isn't a ball game where you stick with your team.
    Follow the science!

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    JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Two new sublineages of the Omicron coronavirus variant can dodge antibodies from earlier infection well enough to trigger a new wave, but are far less able to thrive in the blood of people vaccinated against COVID-19, South African scientists have found.

    The scientists from multiple institutions were examining Omicron's BA.4 and BA.5 sublineages - which the World Health Organization last month added to its monitoring list. They took blood samples from 39 participants previously infected by Omicron when it first showed up at the end of last year.

    At this point I expect all the unvaccinated to make an appointment, the debate is officially over.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    Hey this isn't a ball game where you stick with your team.
    Follow the science!

    Breaking News
    JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Two new sublineages of the Omicron coronavirus variant can dodge antibodies from earlier infection well enough to trigger a new wave, but are far less able to thrive in the blood of people vaccinated against COVID-19, South African scientists have found.

    The scientists from multiple institutions were examining Omicron's BA.4 and BA.5 sublineages - which the World Health Organization last month added to its monitoring list. They took blood samples from 39 participants previously infected by Omicron when it first showed up at the end of last year.

    At this point I expect all the unvaccinated to make an appointment, the debate is officially over.

    Ain't happening fag.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    Hey this isn't a ball game where you stick with your team.
    Follow the science!

    Breaking News
    JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Two new sublineages of the Omicron coronavirus variant can dodge antibodies from earlier infection well enough to trigger a new wave, but are far less able to thrive in the blood of people vaccinated against COVID-19, South African scientists have found.

    The scientists from multiple institutions were examining Omicron's BA.4 and BA.5 sublineages - which the World Health Organization last month added to its monitoring list. They took blood samples from 39 participants previously infected by Omicron when it first showed up at the end of last year.

    At this point I expect all the unvaccinated to make an appointment, the debate is officially over.
    Entropy is obviously joking with that last line, but the rest is interesting.

    The bottom line is that certain other countries have been ahead of the curve when it comes to researching COVID, while the US somehow lags behind very badly (as does most of Europe, for whatever reason).

    I've noticed that Israel and South Africa are pretty good at COVID variant and vaccine efficacy research, even if their COVID policies are sometimes overly restrictive and stupid (I'm especially looking at you, Israel).

    Recall that South Africa was the first country to report Omicron in late 2021, and they also reported that it was "cold-like", "much less severe than Delta", and "causing much less death than Delta".

    All of their initial studies on Omicron were correct. Remember the left wing media in the US panicking over Omicron, forecasting a dark, depressing winter of death and doom? The only think dark and depressing about winter 2022 was the highly inflationary economy, caused by horrendous Biden policy. Had we listened to the scientists in South Africa, the Omicron panic could have been avoided.

    Similarly, Israel reported in mid-2021 that the third shot was highly effective. It was said to generate far more antibodies, and also showed far more efficacy against symptomatic COVID than those who only had two shots. It turned out they were correct. Not only did the third shot "refresh" the protection which rapidly faded after the second shot, but it also resulted in far better quality antibodies. This is why those with only two shots had little protection against symptomatic Omicron, whereas those with three shots did much better. Note that I was in the room with a lot of Delta at the WSOP, for three long days, and I didn't get it. Then, two months later, I was in the same house with Omicron (my son), and didn't get it. Third shot was a big success story for me.

    Israel has also studied the fourth shot. The news is not nearly as good as the third shot. Apparently it gives you only a slight bit of extra protection from symptomatic Omicron, but it seems to be good at preventing old people from getting breakthrough cases which hospitalize them. That's why it's being recommended for people "over 60" to get that fourth shot, and for everyone else it seems to be questionable.

    If we are to believe the latest study from South Africa quoted above, it's actually good news. It means that the new Omicron variants will cause mild or asymptomatic infection in the vaccinated, and may not require the annoying regimen of every-6-months vaccination. COVID isn't dying out -- it's here to stay. The best case in the near term is that it morphs into something not-too-dangerous for the average American, and we just move on and live with it, as we have with the flu for our entire lives. It's already mostly there, as Omicron is only 10% as deadly as Delta was.

    I don't give a shit what people do with vaccination. If you want to get vaccinated, great. If you don't, that's your risk and totally up to you. Vaccination doesn't seem to mean a whole lot when it comes to transmission of Omicron, so why should we give a shit at this point? Let everyone decide for themselves what they want to do.

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    Don['t take that last diatribe above to mean that I'm brainwashed by leftist COVID talking points. I'm not at all in agreement with their prevention measures, most of which are anti-science at this point. We basically need to throw them all out the window and treat life like it's 2019 again.

    Surfaces: Immediately end all paranoia or policy regarding surface cleaning. COVID doesn't spread on surfaces, and we've known this for 2 years. Surface paranoia has resulted in a lot of large businesses hiding behind COVID in order to justify cheapness and/or reduction of services. For example, Caesars won't give you free bottled water anymore at the front desk because of "COVID". Bullshit. Dodger Stadium won't take cash anymore. Also bullshit. Many hotels will no longer provide maid service unless you ask for it. Again, bullshit, even though I don't use it anyway on short stays. If these business want to change policies regarding things like this, that's their prerogative. However, the public should be educated that there is ZERO risk of getting COVID from surfaces, so consumers stop getting fucked in the ass by bullshit "COVID safety" policies actually meant to save money for the business.

    Masks: Cloth masks don't work to prevent Omicron, and it's questionable if they ever worked at all to prevent the other variants. But even the CDC admits they're useless against Omicron. So why are Democrats still trying to force people to wear them? End mask mandates of all kinds.

    Vaccination: Put out clear info regarding the efficacy and risk of vaccines -- the good and the bad. Let each individual decide what to do, and shut the fuck up about it. No vaccine mandates anywhere. I laugh at the idiotic requirement in some places to have two shots, even if shot #2 was over a year ago. That will do nothing to prevent transmission of Omicron. Why is this still happening? It's all theater.

    Outdoor settings: COVID rarely transmits outdoors. There should be zero COVID restrictions outdoors.

    Indoor settings: Be honest with people that crowded indoor settings are the most likely place to get COVID, and let each person assess their own risk. If you're 25 and healthy, you probably won't give a shit. If you're 75, you probably need to exercise some restraint and minimize your exposure to such places. Leave it up to the individual.

    Schools: Stop masking kids. Stop separating kids. No vaccine requirements. Just let kids be kids. Omicron is contagious enough to where kids will get it if together in a classroom 6 hours a day. That's how Ben got it. Let parents decide if they want to vaccinate the kid or not.


    Incidentally, Governor Desantis ended up getting most of this right from the start. Where is COVID Hero Cuomo now?

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    If we are going to talk about empirical evidence we need to acknowledge how people with BMI over 30 are not just extremely vulnerable to COVID but a strain on the medical system in everyway.

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    At this point we have to question if one person has died from this virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    At this point we have to question if one person has died from this virus.
    I knew 3 people, all in their 50s, who were not super-healthy but didn't have major medical issues.

    One was fat, one was somewhat overweight, and the third was not fat.

    All died within 2 weeks of realizing they had COVID. It is unlikely anything else killed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    At this point we have to question if one person has died from this virus.
    Voice of reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Don['t take that last diatribe above to mean that I'm brainwashed by leftist COVID talking points. I'm not at all in agreement with their prevention measures, most of which are anti-science at this point. We basically need to throw them all out the window and treat life like it's 2019 again.

    Surfaces: Immediately end all paranoia or policy regarding surface cleaning. COVID doesn't spread on surfaces, and we've known this for 2 years. Surface paranoia has resulted in a lot of large businesses hiding behind COVID in order to justify cheapness and/or reduction of services. For example, Caesars won't give you free bottled water anymore at the front desk because of "COVID". Bullshit. Dodger Stadium won't take cash anymore. Also bullshit. Many hotels will no longer provide maid service unless you ask for it. Again, bullshit, even though I don't use it anyway on short stays. If these business want to change policies regarding things like this, that's their prerogative. However, the public should be educated that there is ZERO risk of getting COVID from surfaces, so consumers stop getting fucked in the ass by bullshit "COVID safety" policies actually meant to save money for the business.

    Masks: Cloth masks don't work to prevent Omicron, and it's questionable if they ever worked at all to prevent the other variants. But even the CDC admits they're useless against Omicron. So why are Democrats still trying to force people to wear them? End mask mandates of all kinds.

    Vaccination: Put out clear info regarding the efficacy and risk of vaccines -- the good and the bad. Let each individual decide what to do, and shut the fuck up about it. No vaccine mandates anywhere. I laugh at the idiotic requirement in some places to have two shots, even if shot #2 was over a year ago. That will do nothing to prevent transmission of Omicron. Why is this still happening? It's all theater.

    Outdoor settings: COVID rarely transmits outdoors. There should be zero COVID restrictions outdoors.

    Indoor settings: Be honest with people that crowded indoor settings are the most likely place to get COVID, and let each person assess their own risk. If you're 25 and healthy, you probably won't give a shit. If you're 75, you probably need to exercise some restraint and minimize your exposure to such places. Leave it up to the individual.

    Schools: Stop masking kids. Stop separating kids. No vaccine requirements. Just let kids be kids. Omicron is contagious enough to where kids will get it if together in a classroom 6 hours a day. That's how Ben got it. Let parents decide if they want to vaccinate the kid or not.


    Incidentally, Governor Desantis ended up getting most of this right from the start. Where is COVID Hero Cuomo now?
    So given all of the above, are you going to take a fourth jab before the WSOP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Don['t take that last diatribe above to mean that I'm brainwashed by leftist COVID talking points. I'm not at all in agreement with their prevention measures, most of which are anti-science at this point. We basically need to throw them all out the window and treat life like it's 2019 again.

    Surfaces: Immediately end all paranoia or policy regarding surface cleaning. COVID doesn't spread on surfaces, and we've known this for 2 years. Surface paranoia has resulted in a lot of large businesses hiding behind COVID in order to justify cheapness and/or reduction of services. For example, Caesars won't give you free bottled water anymore at the front desk because of "COVID". Bullshit. Dodger Stadium won't take cash anymore. Also bullshit. Many hotels will no longer provide maid service unless you ask for it. Again, bullshit, even though I don't use it anyway on short stays. If these business want to change policies regarding things like this, that's their prerogative. However, the public should be educated that there is ZERO risk of getting COVID from surfaces, so consumers stop getting fucked in the ass by bullshit "COVID safety" policies actually meant to save money for the business.

    Masks: Cloth masks don't work to prevent Omicron, and it's questionable if they ever worked at all to prevent the other variants. But even the CDC admits they're useless against Omicron. So why are Democrats still trying to force people to wear them? End mask mandates of all kinds.

    Vaccination: Put out clear info regarding the efficacy and risk of vaccines -- the good and the bad. Let each individual decide what to do, and shut the fuck up about it. No vaccine mandates anywhere. I laugh at the idiotic requirement in some places to have two shots, even if shot #2 was over a year ago. That will do nothing to prevent transmission of Omicron. Why is this still happening? It's all theater.

    Outdoor settings: COVID rarely transmits outdoors. There should be zero COVID restrictions outdoors.

    Indoor settings: Be honest with people that crowded indoor settings are the most likely place to get COVID, and let each person assess their own risk. If you're 25 and healthy, you probably won't give a shit. If you're 75, you probably need to exercise some restraint and minimize your exposure to such places. Leave it up to the individual.

    Schools: Stop masking kids. Stop separating kids. No vaccine requirements. Just let kids be kids. Omicron is contagious enough to where kids will get it if together in a classroom 6 hours a day. That's how Ben got it. Let parents decide if they want to vaccinate the kid or not.


    Incidentally, Governor Desantis ended up getting most of this right from the start. Where is COVID Hero Cuomo now?
    So given all of the above, are you going to take a fourth jab before the WSOP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post

    So given all of the above, are you going to take a fourth jab before the WSOP?
    https://journals.lww.com/co-rheumato...andemic.4.aspx


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    Pfizer data released today. 80,000 pages. Pfizer knew vaccine harmed the fetus in pregnant women, and that the vaccine was not 95% effective, Pfizer data shows it having a 12% efficacy rate.


    (If you were wondering why the Supreme Court leak happened last night)

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Pfizer data released today. 80,000 pages. Pfizer knew vaccine harmed the fetus in pregnant women, and that the vaccine was not 95% effective, Pfizer data shows it having a 12% efficacy rate.


    (If you were wondering why the Supreme Court leak happened last night)
    I expect crickets from the vax-maxxers on this site, they're all dead or gave up the charade about the vaccine being safe and effective(except Druff) he still thinks it was effective


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    There's actually been studies showing that gout flares increase after vaccination (of many vaccines, not just COVID), and one study (though involving the Chinese vaccine) did show an increased risk of gout flares after the COVID vaccine.

    I had my third vaccine in mid-October 2021. Prior to that, I only had gout flares (both mild) twice in my life -- one in 2010, and one around 2015.

    Since mid-October 2021, I had 5 likely gout incidents:

    Late October 2021: Moderate (elbow)
    Late November 2021: Terrible (foot/ankle, couldn't walk at one point)
    Mid January 2022: Moderate (foot/ankle)
    Early February 2022: Mild-moderate (foot/ankle)
    Late February 2022: Mild (foot/ankle)

    Notice a few things here:

    - I had 5 gout incidents in 3.5 months following the vaccine, after only having two lifetime prior to that

    - The worst gout incident was in late November/early December, and then each one after that got progressively milder

    - I haven't had any gout incidents in the past 2 months


    If you look, this would actually follow the pattern of COVID protection from the vaccine. The best protection would have been around mid-November, and it would slowly decrease from there.

    Is it possible the the vaccine "wearing off" after 3-4 months is what brought the gout back under control? It almost looks like my risk of gout is directly correlated to my level of vaccine-induced antibodies.

    If I do choose to get that 4th shot (still on the fence), and get gout in the following 3-4 months again, I'll be pretty convinced that's what is happening.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    There's actually been studies showing that gout flares increase after vaccination (of many vaccines, not just COVID), and one study (though involving the Chinese vaccine) did show an increased risk of gout flares after the COVID vaccine.

    I had my third vaccine in mid-October 2021. Prior to that, I only had gout flares (both mild) twice in my life -- one in 2010, and one around 2015.

    Since mid-October 2021, I had 5 likely gout incidents:

    Late October 2021: Moderate (elbow)
    Late November 2021: Terrible (foot/ankle, couldn't walk at one point)
    Mid January 2022: Moderate (foot/ankle)
    Early February 2022: Mild-moderate (foot/ankle)
    Late February 2022: Mild (foot/ankle)

    Notice a few things here:

    - I had 5 gout incidents in 3.5 months following the vaccine, after only having two lifetime prior to that

    - The worst gout incident was in late November/early December, and then each one after that got progressively milder

    - I haven't had any gout incidents in the past 2 months


    If you look, this would actually follow the pattern of COVID protection from the vaccine. The best protection would have been around mid-November, and it would slowly decrease from there.

    Is it possible the the vaccine "wearing off" after 3-4 months is what brought the gout back under control? It almost looks like my risk of gout is directly correlated to my level of vaccine-induced antibodies.

    If I do choose to get that 4th shot (still on the fence), and get gout in the following 3-4 months again, I'll be pretty convinced that's what is happening.
    Didn't you also say you packed on like 25 pounds and eat like shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    There's actually been studies showing that gout flares increase after vaccination (of many vaccines, not just COVID), and one study (though involving the Chinese vaccine) did show an increased risk of gout flares after the COVID vaccine.

    I had my third vaccine in mid-October 2021. Prior to that, I only had gout flares (both mild) twice in my life -- one in 2010, and one around 2015.

    Since mid-October 2021, I had 5 likely gout incidents:

    Late October 2021: Moderate (elbow)
    Late November 2021: Terrible (foot/ankle, couldn't walk at one point)
    Mid January 2022: Moderate (foot/ankle)
    Early February 2022: Mild-moderate (foot/ankle)
    Late February 2022: Mild (foot/ankle)

    Notice a few things here:

    - I had 5 gout incidents in 3.5 months following the vaccine, after only having two lifetime prior to that

    - The worst gout incident was in late November/early December, and then each one after that got progressively milder

    - I haven't had any gout incidents in the past 2 months


    If you look, this would actually follow the pattern of COVID protection from the vaccine. The best protection would have been around mid-November, and it would slowly decrease from there.

    Is it possible the the vaccine "wearing off" after 3-4 months is what brought the gout back under control? It almost looks like my risk of gout is directly correlated to my level of vaccine-induced antibodies.

    If I do choose to get that 4th shot (still on the fence), and get gout in the following 3-4 months again, I'll be pretty convinced that's what is happening.
    Didn't you also say you packed on like 25 pounds and eat like shit?

    Occam's razor brother.
    I'm lighter than I was in 2018 before the crippling anxiety/depression issues forced 32 pounds off me in 5 weeks. I wasn't having any gout problems in 2018, or for years prior to that. My weight has gone up and down since losing it, but I'm still not close to the 2018 high.

    While these problems weren't confirmed gout (they presented somewhat atypically), that's what I now believe it was, as do a few doctors I've consulted about it. I also have had high uric acid for years (even while no gout presented), so I'm definitely one who is more likely to get it.

    It has been proven through prior research that other vaccines can bring on gout issues in people prone to it for "about 3 months". Notice that my gout issues started about 2 weeks after the shot, and then continued for 3 months.

    That's not to say the COVID vaccine did something bad to me -- only that I might be getting vaccine-induced gout, which is something to consider when I get these jabs. I'm still not convinced that the 4th shot provides much value.

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