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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    Got admit, I am jealous of all the hot babes those motorcycle guys pull.
    you seem mad people are living their lives

    if you don't like it move to Canada or North Korea you dumb faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    Really, which countries stopped COVID?

    So where are these 100% reliable COVID tests? Finland? Because I can't find such a thing here.

    And if there aren't such tests -- or any tests anywhere near 100% -- how is it mathematically possible to beat a super-contagious disease which spreads presymptomatically?

    And you do realize that the tests are over 50% false negative in the presymtomatic-but-contagious phase, right?

    SCIENCE!!!
    Sure i'll list all the examples and the underlying logic/mechanisms just one more time and then we can keep groundhogdaying the same shit in two months when you conveniently forget all about it.

    100% reliable tests don't exist for ANYTHING.

    And sure tell me more about incubation period. I've never heard of this thing. Maybe you can cover relation of virus replication to transmissivity and how it affects test accuracy while you're at it.
    There's a difference between 99% reliable and 50-70% reliable.

    Furthremore, you can only prevent spread through testing/tracing if you catch it at near patient zero. Once it's spread even a little bit, especially among a large and mobile populaiton, you're screwed, and testing/tracing only becomes useful at the micro level. This is especially true for viruses which spread presymptomatically. Those who feel no symptoms won't get tested until it's too late.

    You can try to babble as much as you want about how this can successfully be done, but it's mathematically impossible given the way COVID played out. That's why not a single country was able to eradicate it, and why only small, isolated countries (like New Zealand) or ones with docile/compliant populations (South Korea) were able to produce better outcomes.

    The US was drawing dead regarding COVID.

    You're just stuck on the testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the anti-Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.

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    Druff is fucking murdering gimmick itt

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?
    Define “rate”. It’s a very important distinction.

    There are more kids and younger aged people making up the overall population of people in ICU’s and deaths on a percentage basis now compared to a year ago.

    The rate at which Covid or delta or theta or whatever Greek alphabet variant you want to use is impacting kids and younger people is unchanged to a year ago.

    The appearance of higher % of instances is because the group that kids and other young people are being compared too is vaccinated at a much higher rate. People 65 and over at 73% plus, 40 and under are less than half.

    The overall impact to vaccinated older people has greatly improved while the younger/kids bucket has improved but at a much slower rate.

    You need to look at all the variables when you talk about this shit. Half the population can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, 50% of all statistics are made up.
    This is probably all true, but it hasn't stopped the mainstream media and left wing politicans from making it seem as if we now have a COVID crisis decimating our children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    Define “rate”. It’s a very important distinction.

    There are more kids and younger aged people making up the overall population of people in ICU’s and deaths on a percentage basis now compared to a year ago.

    The rate at which Covid or delta or theta or whatever Greek alphabet variant you want to use is impacting kids and younger people is unchanged to a year ago.

    The appearance of higher % of instances is because the group that kids and other young people are being compared too is vaccinated at a much higher rate. People 65 and over at 73% plus, 40 and under are less than half.

    The overall impact to vaccinated older people has greatly improved while the younger/kids bucket has improved but at a much slower rate.

    You need to look at all the variables when you talk about this shit. Half the population can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, 50% of all statistics are made up.
    there are no kids in the hospital you stupid faggot, covid does not affect kids
    It’s about 8 per 100K cases 17 or under. It’s not high but it’s not zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    there are no kids in the hospital you stupid faggot, covid does not affect kids
    It’s about 8 per 100K cases 17 or under. It’s not high but it’s not zero.
    they're all fat with at least 2 co-morbidities

    sorry to burst your bubble, normal, healthy kids are fine, it's less deadly than it was a year ago, and kids were more than fine then.

    stop posting and falling for propaganda

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    Sure i'll list all the examples and the underlying logic/mechanisms just one more time and then we can keep groundhogdaying the same shit in two months when you conveniently forget all about it.

    100% reliable tests don't exist for ANYTHING.

    And sure tell me more about incubation period. I've never heard of this thing. Maybe you can cover relation of virus replication to transmissivity and how it affects test accuracy while you're at it.
    There's a difference between 99% reliable and 50-70% reliable.

    Furthremore, you can only prevent spread through testing/tracing if you catch it at near patient zero. Once it's spread even a little bit, especially among a large and mobile populaiton, you're screwed, and testing/tracing only becomes useful at the micro level. This is especially true for viruses which spread presymptomatically. Those who feel no symptoms won't get tested until it's too late.

    You can try to babble as much as you want about how this can successfully be done, but it's mathematically impossible given the way COVID played out. That's why not a single country was able to eradicate it, and why only small, isolated countries (like New Zealand) or ones with docile/compliant populations (South Korea) were able to produce better outcomes.

    The US was drawing dead regarding COVID.

    You're just stuck on the testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the anti-Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.
    Sure or you could just look up my previous posts how contact tracing gets ahead of the virus. Or just about any reasonable explanation why countries all over the world still keep using contact tracing with infectious diseases.

    I'm not gonna explain that shit again and again. Lol at mathematically impossible.

    But hey it's nice that you projected your real reason for this spout of retardation.

    You're just stuck on the anti-testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    There's a difference between 99% reliable and 50-70% reliable.

    Furthremore, you can only prevent spread through testing/tracing if you catch it at near patient zero. Once it's spread even a little bit, especially among a large and mobile populaiton, you're screwed, and testing/tracing only becomes useful at the micro level. This is especially true for viruses which spread presymptomatically. Those who feel no symptoms won't get tested until it's too late.

    You can try to babble as much as you want about how this can successfully be done, but it's mathematically impossible given the way COVID played out. That's why not a single country was able to eradicate it, and why only small, isolated countries (like New Zealand) or ones with docile/compliant populations (South Korea) were able to produce better outcomes.

    The US was drawing dead regarding COVID.

    You're just stuck on the testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the anti-Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.
    Sure or you could just look up my previous posts how contact tracing gets ahead of the virus. Or just about any reasonable explanation why countries all over the world still keep using contact tracing with infectious diseases.

    I'm not gonna explain that shit again and again. Lol at mathematically impossible.

    But hey it's nice that you projected your real reason for this spout of retardation.

    You're just stuck on the anti-testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.
    Your "previous posts" stated nothing which answered these concerns, and was just your usual babbling.

    Again, contract tracing is nearly impossible with a large and mobile population, where a contagious, presymptomatic-spreading virus has already begun its spread. It's not like identifying 3 people who came into the country with a virus, getting to them quickly, and quarantining everyone with whom they've had contact.

    By the time any country considered a testing/tracing method to stop the virus, it was too late. There is/was no practical way to make it work. This becomes even tougher with a test which is full of false negatives.

    Back to the original reason this came back up. A "negative test' to enter Lollapalooza will reduce transmission a little bit (because those testing positive can't go), but given the test's false negatives, plus the large, packed-in crowd, it's not a safe place to be. It's better than a similar event indoors, but anyone who thinks Lollapalooza was "safe" is kidding themselves. Also, it seems vaccinated people are transmitting COVID, so that's another problem, as they weren't even tested.

    Time to just accept that some activities are going to be COVID spreaders, and understand that we probably need to just deal with it, and make people aware of their risks (which for young people isn't very high).

     
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    When are you retards going to come to to conclusion that COVID-19 will never go away at this point. The sooner you realize this the better. Just live your life and move on.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post

    I don't know the answer to this but he is definitely fucking hysterical.

    I couldn't imagine waking up every day and turning on CNN. Anyone who does deserves his abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    Sure or you could just look up my previous posts how contact tracing gets ahead of the virus. Or just about any reasonable explanation why countries all over the world still keep using contact tracing with infectious diseases.

    I'm not gonna explain that shit again and again. Lol at mathematically impossible.

    But hey it's nice that you projected your real reason for this spout of retardation.

    You're just stuck on the anti-testing/tracing bandwagon because it was one of the Trump talking points of 2020, and you feel the reflexive need to defend that, in the face of all logic.
    Your "previous posts" stated nothing which answered these concerns, and was just your usual babbling.

    Again, contract tracing is nearly impossible with a large and mobile population, where a contagious, presymptomatic-spreading virus has already begun its spread. It's not like identifying 3 people who came into the country with a virus, getting to them quickly, and quarantining everyone with whom they've had contact.

    By the time any country considered a testing/tracing method to stop the virus, it was too late. There is/was no practical way to make it work. This becomes even tougher with a test which is full of false negatives.

    Back to the original reason this came back up. A "negative test' to enter Lollapalooza will reduce transmission a little bit (because those testing positive can't go), but given the test's false negatives, plus the large, packed-in crowd, it's not a safe place to be. It's better than a similar event indoors, but anyone who thinks Lollapalooza was "safe" is kidding themselves. Also, it seems vaccinated people are transmitting COVID, so that's another problem, as they weren't even tested.

    Time to just accept that some activities are going to be COVID spreaders, and understand that we probably need to just deal with it, and make people aware of their risks (which for young people isn't very high).
    There's literally no point in me explaining this to you for the 3rd time. But whatever, lets waste more of my time.

    You failed testing harder than any other first world country. Because of that in most areas contact tracing wouldn't have been useful. That has nothing to do with how well testing or contact tracing works and everything to do with how hard you failed with testing.

    If it helps you can come up with excuses why it doesn't matter, oh wait.

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    expect more of this as these spoiled teachers try to muzzle your kids while they bitch and moan about having to go back to work.


    LOL if you don't want to do your job then leave, we will find someone who wants a job, you're basically a day care.

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    Uneducated anti-vax people are unfortunately not qualified to teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Uneducated people are the majority of anti vax people.

    They unfortunately aren’t qualified to teach.
    the most vaccine hesitant group are PHD holders, try again


    of course the uneducated dirty stinky black people are diluting the numbers, but only morons would take this vaccine

    are half of the CDC doctors that refused dumb? or is it possible they know something you don't

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    Nothing to worry about. Jesus will surely save him.

    Edit: fuckin Tommy beat me to it.

     
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    Another gut-wrenching, on-the-ground report from a totally reasonable and politically unbiased nurse, who just can't help but report the carnage she sees:

    https://twitter.com/Jessicam6946/status/1426569588825858051



    Really sad story, right?

    And we have no reason to believe this nurse would ever make this up, becuase she's always so rational and unbiased, and...

    https://twitter.com/Jessicam6946/status/1426929125218979844

    Well, never mind.

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    Here's her Twitter bio:

    Front line ICU NP. USAF brat. ASU & Fresno SU Alumna. #CovidICU #TravelNurse #AANP #USAFR #Survivor #FBR
    #NoNakedNostrils #Resister #LGBTQ #BLM #Millennial
    Won't identify herself or even prove that she's really a nurse.

    Twitter feed is full of left-wing extremism, both COVID-related and non-COVID-related.

    Doesn't matter. The Twitter left looooooooooooves their scary on-the-ground doctor/nurse reports, especially ones which make Republicans look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    we are eventually going to have to implement grid lockdowns

    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...oking-backlash
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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