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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
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    They were also the ones who didn’t have shit in March/April last year when NY and the whole of New England were on Covid fire and the picked up significantly in July and August.

    To give a balanced report they were also the ones that Told the blue states in the north to fuck right off in December when the rate dropped next to zero because nobody is inside when there was a huge uptick in the cold states.

    We need to get the fuck over the red/blue state bullshit on this. Covid is the cold. Covid is the flu. It’s a very similar repository with much higher potential stakes. When regions are inside it’s going to be worse. This shit ain’t going away. Guess what - all these states will have huge improvement in 2 months and the northern states will be fucked again in 4-6 months. Count on it.
    I don't care about red and blue states, I'm a republican for the record. The vaccine significantly reduces the chance of being seriously ill from covid, these states are among the lowest vaccinated in the country and have the highest hospitalizations. This isn't some in depth puzzle that needs to be solved. You're really gonna talk about the weather?

    NY and NJ were the first to get the covid outbreak because that's where all the flights from Europe land, took awhile to spread to the other states.

    Calling it the flu or the cold is complete nonsense. The common cold and flu don't put people in their 40s in the ICU. I agree it's not nearly as deadly as the left media likes to paint it but you going the exact opposite route, "covid is the cold", it's just as stupid and damaging.
    Guessing Daly just meant it behaves like flu with seasons.

    Anyways...

    https://scitechdaily.com/does-covid-...-organization/

    ...that's roughly where people are with Covid seasonality. Likely a factor, for multiple reasons, but it's just one force moving the numbers. Human behavior tends to push it to the back/middle of the list. Most often seen when it gets colder. And that's how it works with flu.

    Last year when the virus was first introduced to different states is a really iffy thing to look at. For the first 6 months the weather likely didn't even make the top 10 of reasons why it was spreading where and how fast.

    But yea hospitalizations is a far better metric to look at than cases and in the end when we look at how well vaccines (or any other measures) worked we're going to be looking at deaths. Comparing last years cases to this years cases just isn't comparable.

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    go fuck yourself you stupid idiot CryptoNinja, what about Obama's party, you gonna defend that with the same cnn talking points you queer?

    you guys are programmed all the same, so predictable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Lollapalooza mandated either vaccine proof or a negative covid test to enter.
    Negative COVID tests don't mean much. They have a 30% false negative rate, plus are often far worse than that in the early stages of the disease.

    This is another left wing fallacy -- that we could've tested and traced our way out of this, had Trump just taken it seriously early enough!!!!11
    The countries that did just had better tests and magic. Fucking warlocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    Negative COVID tests don't mean much. They have a 30% false negative rate, plus are often far worse than that in the early stages of the disease.

    This is another left wing fallacy -- that we could've tested and traced our way out of this, had Trump just taken it seriously early enough!!!!11
    The countries that did just had better tests and magic. Fucking warlocks.
    regardless of what Druff says the CDC dumped the PCR test cause of 90% false-POSITIVE readings

    get the fuck out of here you Finnish n-word


    (also they "developed" a "test" that I'm sure will make someone a billionaire)

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    shout out to druff calling out those left wing fallacies about covid.


    lets check in with team retard superstate texas and see how things are going with druff's tribe:





    druff i dont understand are all the pediatric beds being taken up by left wing fallacies or something?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    Negative COVID tests don't mean much. They have a 30% false negative rate, plus are often far worse than that in the early stages of the disease.

    This is another left wing fallacy -- that we could've tested and traced our way out of this, had Trump just taken it seriously early enough!!!!11
    The countries that did just had better tests and magic. Fucking warlocks.
    Really, which countries stopped COVID?

    So where are these 100% reliable COVID tests? Finland? Because I can't find such a thing here.

    And if there aren't such tests -- or any tests anywhere near 100% -- how is it mathematically possible to beat a super-contagious disease which spreads presymptomatically?

    And you do realize that the tests are over 50% false negative in the presymtomatic-but-contagious phase, right?

    SCIENCE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    shout out to druff calling out those left wing fallacies about covid.


    lets check in with team retard superstate texas and see how things are going with druff's tribe:





    druff i dont understand are all the pediatric beds being taken up by left wing fallacies or something?

    Yeah we already covered this a few pages ago:

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...l=1#post988794


    It's fake news with a super misleading headline.

    Maybe if you took the time to actually read the article instead of screenshotting CNN sensationalism, you'd have already realized this.

    Try harder.

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    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?
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    what more evidence do you need?

    gimmick says just a few dumb fucks are saying this

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    Ok, you win! The media that is biased left is biased left and the media that is biased right is biased right, whadya want a cookie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    The countries that did just had better tests and magic. Fucking warlocks.
    Really, which countries stopped COVID?

    So where are these 100% reliable COVID tests? Finland? Because I can't find such a thing here.

    And if there aren't such tests -- or any tests anywhere near 100% -- how is it mathematically possible to beat a super-contagious disease which spreads presymptomatically?

    And you do realize that the tests are over 50% false negative in the presymtomatic-but-contagious phase, right?

    SCIENCE!!!
    Sure i'll list all the examples and the underlying logic/mechanisms just one more time and then we can keep groundhogdaying the same shit in two months when you conveniently forget all about it.

    100% reliable tests don't exist for ANYTHING.

    And sure tell me more about incubation period. I've never heard of this thing. Maybe you can cover relation of virus replication to transmissivity and how it affects test accuracy while you're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    shout out to druff calling out those left wing fallacies about covid.


    lets check in with team retard superstate texas and see how things are going with druff's tribe:





    druff i dont understand are all the pediatric beds being taken up by left wing fallacies or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?
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    what more evidence do you need?

    gimmick says just a few dumb fucks are saying this
    I think dwai needs attention.

    Now that we've moved the goalpost from ""Delta is killing kids and young people" to "or harming kids" we can retrofit the original source of the BS, because it sure wasn't Druff's daily intake of MSM or something something left.

    OBV there's not a single mention of kids dying to Covid. You know the actual claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?
    Define “rate”. It’s a very important distinction.

    There are more kids and younger aged people making up the overall population of people in ICU’s and deaths on a percentage basis now compared to a year ago.

    The rate at which Covid or delta or theta or whatever Greek alphabet variant you want to use is impacting kids and younger people is unchanged to a year ago.

    The appearance of higher % of instances is because the group that kids and other young people are being compared too is vaccinated at a much higher rate. People 65 and over at 73% plus, 40 and under are less than half.

    The overall impact to vaccinated older people has greatly improved while the younger/kids bucket has improved but at a much slower rate.

    You need to look at all the variables when you talk about this shit. Half the population can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, 50% of all statistics are made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Still looking for evidence that Delta is killing or harming kids at a significantly higher rate than the original COVID, though.

    Funny how we're high on anecdotes from longtime left wing doctors/nurses, but extremely low on actual data.

    But I guess vilifying Republican governors is more important, because we have 2022 and 2024 to think about, amirite?
    Define “rate”. It’s a very important distinction.

    There are more kids and younger aged people making up the overall population of people in ICU’s and deaths on a percentage basis now compared to a year ago.

    The rate at which Covid or delta or theta or whatever Greek alphabet variant you want to use is impacting kids and younger people is unchanged to a year ago.

    The appearance of higher % of instances is because the group that kids and other young people are being compared too is vaccinated at a much higher rate. People 65 and over at 73% plus, 40 and under are less than half.

    The overall impact to vaccinated older people has greatly improved while the younger/kids bucket has improved but at a much slower rate.

    You need to look at all the variables when you talk about this shit. Half the population can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, 50% of all statistics are made up.
    there are no kids in the hospital you stupid faggot, covid does not affect kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    Define “rate”. It’s a very important distinction.

    There are more kids and younger aged people making up the overall population of people in ICU’s and deaths on a percentage basis now compared to a year ago.

    The rate at which Covid or delta or theta or whatever Greek alphabet variant you want to use is impacting kids and younger people is unchanged to a year ago.

    The appearance of higher % of instances is because the group that kids and other young people are being compared too is vaccinated at a much higher rate. People 65 and over at 73% plus, 40 and under are less than half.

    The overall impact to vaccinated older people has greatly improved while the younger/kids bucket has improved but at a much slower rate.

    You need to look at all the variables when you talk about this shit. Half the population can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, 50% of all statistics are made up.
    there are no kids in the hospital you stupid faggot, covid does not affect kids
    Dwai literally proving everyone’s point about misinformation and how effective it is.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
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    there are no kids in the hospital you stupid faggot, covid does not affect kids
    Dwai literally proving everyone’s point about misinformation and how effective it is.
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    Sonatine,

    I understand that it is tough not to believe something that confirms our biases. Lord knows it is something I am guilty of.

    But you should still know better than to take any CNN headline at face value.

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