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    Types of Vaccines
    Currently, there are three main types of COVID-19 vaccines that are authorized and recommended, or undergoing large-scale (Phase 3) clinical trials in the United States.

    Below is a description of how each type of vaccine prompts our bodies to recognize and protect us from the virus that causes COVID-19. None of these vaccines can give you COVID-19.

    mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.

    Protein subunit vaccines include harmless pieces (proteins) of the virus that causes COVID-19 instead of the entire germ. Once vaccinated, our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and antibodies that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.

    Vector vaccines contain a modified version of a different virus than the one that causes COVID-19. Inside the shell of the modified virus, there is material from the virus that causes COVID-19. This is called a “viral vector.” Once the viral vector is inside our cells, the genetic material gives cells instructions to make a protein that is unique to the virus that causes COVID-19. Using these instructions, our cells make copies of the protein. This prompts our bodies to build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus if we are infected in the future.
    wanna split hairs, or what (from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...they-work.html )
    Not splitting hairs at all. An MRNA vaccine is very different then say the flu shot.

    You’re an antivaxxer huh?
    Nope, not an antivaxxer at all. You're saying there is no virus in the vaccine, I showed you that there are parts of the virus in it. You're splitting hairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchjockey View Post
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    wanna split hairs, or what (from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...they-work.html )
    Not splitting hairs at all. An MRNA vaccine is very different then say the flu shot.

    You’re an antivaxxer huh?
    Nope, not an antivaxxer at all. You're saying there is no virus in the vaccine, I showed you that there are parts of the virus in it. You're splitting hairs.
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html

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    Not splitting hairs at all. An MRNA vaccine is very different then say the flu shot.

    You’re an antivaxxer huh?
    Nope, not an antivaxxer at all. You're saying there is no virus in the vaccine, I showed you that there are parts of the virus in it. You're splitting hairs.
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html

    Go back and read the part where the CDC says PART OF THE VIRUS IS IN THE VACCINE. You want to be right so badly, you're ignoring facts. Seriously. Look.
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    Lemme explain it to you really slowly.

    click this link https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...they-work.html


    Scroll down to the part where it says this, then fucking read. it.

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    Especially read the part where it says it contains part of the virus that causes Covid-19. Because then you're gonna learn some new shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchjockey View Post
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    Nope, not an antivaxxer at all. You're saying there is no virus in the vaccine, I showed you that there are parts of the virus in it. You're splitting hairs.
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html

    Go back and read the part where the CDC says PART OF THE VIRUS IS IN THE VACCINE. You want to be right so badly, you're ignoring facts. Seriously. Look.
    I’m not looking to be right about anything, that’s you weirdo. This conversation stems from people being more scared of the vaccine than the virus which is irrational imo. You say I’m splitting hairs, 100% false. The MRNA vaccine is nothing like a vaccine such as for the flu. Why are you arguing that point? The two types of vaccines work completely differently. What is your point in the entire discussion anyway? You say you’re not antivaxx but seem scared of it.

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    Directly from said website

    "Over 167 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 5, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,794 reports of death (0.00167%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."

    Using those exact statistics from said website.....

    Deaths are extremely rare (like one-two people (1.67 to be exact) in a hundred thousand vaccinations). On top of that it would be even less for someone who is healthy (probably one in a million type thing).

    Simple dental surgery is probably more dangerous.

     
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    Go back and read the part where the CDC says PART OF THE VIRUS IS IN THE VACCINE. You want to be right so badly, you're ignoring facts. Seriously. Look.
    I’m not looking to be right about anything. This conversation seems from people being more scared so the vaccine than the virus which is irrational imo. You say I’m splitting hairs, 100% false. The MRNA vaccine is nothing like a vaccine such as for the flu. Why are you arguing that point? The two types of vaccines work completely differently. What is your point in the entire discussion anyway? You say you’re not antivaxx but seem scared of it.
    You haven't read it. I told you to read it.

    Also, at no point did I say I'm scared. You stated there have been no deaths. I showed you how to find them. Inexplicably, you've moved on to there are no parts of the virus in the vaccine. I showed you that was also wrong, both times using CDC web site.

    If you wanna attack me personally using some straw man like me being scared, go for it. You can be wrong three times today.

    The only thing I'm trying to say is that you ain't right on the deaths and you ain't right on the "there is no virus in the vaccine". That's it. I can lead you to water, that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchjockey View Post
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    Go back and read the part where the CDC says PART OF THE VIRUS IS IN THE VACCINE. You want to be right so badly, you're ignoring facts. Seriously. Look.
    I’m not looking to be right about anything. This conversation seems from people being more scared so the vaccine than the virus which is irrational imo. You say I’m splitting hairs, 100% false. The MRNA vaccine is nothing like a vaccine such as for the flu. Why are you arguing that point? The two types of vaccines work completely differently. What is your point in the entire discussion anyway? You say you’re not antivaxx but seem scared of it.
    You haven't read it. I told you to read it.

    Also, at no point did I say I'm scared. You stated there have been no deaths. I showed you how to find them. Inexplicably, you've moved on to there are no parts of the virus in the vaccine. I showed you that was also wrong, both times using CDC web site.

    If you wanna attack me personally using some straw man like me being scared, go for it. You can be wrong three times today.

    The only thing I'm trying to say is that you ain't right on the deaths and you ain't right on the "there is no virus in the vaccine". That's it. I can lead you to water, that's about it.
    No one has died from the vaccine JFC.

    I’m glad you admitted above that you’re the one splitting hairs.

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    Yea the vaccine doesn't make you immune to death. There could be some connection with women in the 25-50 year old group. Some rare brain clotting type of a thing that's more prevalent with vaccinated vs general population. I think it was 1,5 out of a million gen pop and 4 out of a million from vaccinated. That was with AstraZeneca when 20 million had got it.

    The protein that's used in the mRNA vaccines doesn't cause anything on it's own. You can say it's from the virus, but it's not relevant to what makes it what it is. Think of it like rum and coke. If you take the coke part out of the drink and give it to people they're really unlikely to get drunk because of it. The traditional vaccines take the rum part and dilute it.

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    So, got Part Deux of the Funky Cold Moderna Vaccine late yesterday afternoon. Left Arm started hurting at the injection site a few hours later. So did my right hip and right knee. This is strange, as I have not previously had any pain in my right knee or hip. My last run was last Sunday and took this week off, as I haven't had much time off from running in the past year. But, I have not previously had any issues with this knee or hip. Oh well, No fever or chills or other flu like symptoms as I am just about 24 hours post injection.

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    ROFL THE BABYLON BEE IS GOD

     
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    You have people posting shit like this and you guys call me stupid?
    Fucking A,
    I thought these went thought Trump's "Warp speed" lab process???
    and you still call it untested? (FTR, Its been thoroughly tested)

    Scratch me off of this list, I'm vaccinated.
    100 cars in front of me, & I was still shot w/in 20 & out of there w/in 30 minutes,
    J+J so I'm done. (It stung, though. But, I already can't feel it, the flu vaccine I took hurt way more.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    You have people posting shit like this and you guys call me stupid?
    Fucking A,
    I thought these went thought Trump's "Warp speed" lab process???
    and you still call it untested? (FTR, Its been thoroughly tested)

    Scratch me off of this list, I'm vaccinated.
    100 cars in front of me, & I was still shot w/in 20 & out of there w/in 30 minutes,
    J+J so I'm done. (It stung, though. But, I already can't feel it, the flu vaccine I took hurt way more.)

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    Another Libtard without a sense of humor. What a waste of a mind...SMH...

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    "Norway prime minister fined £1,715 for breaking coronavirus rules with birthday party"


    lol, "our politicians care about us, they're trying to keep us safe and protect the people!" - adamantium and gimmick probably


    lol fucking mongs


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...29013.html?amp

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    Lol druff
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    I am a nice human being who enjoys being upbeat and affable with others

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