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    Per usual, it's not binary.

    Obesity certainly is a high risk factor (thereby wise of you to be cautious), but poorer health correlates disproportionately impacts poorer folks, which are disproportionately non-white. There's loads of evidence to suggest that this, in part, is a byproduct of historical oppression and systemic racism. Surely you think racism exists, yes?

    So no, black people aren't dying more because we are enduring a racist administration, and employing an equity specialist is not a panacea. Regurgitating distilled Team Retard talking points makes you look stupid.

    But studying these impacts on public health is bad...why? No one is going to force you to eat better, dress better or give a shit about your general appearance as a result.
    LOL at this tiltmonkey with the stupid insults. Are you really so angry about politics that you can't have a discussion like a normal human being?

    Regarding the rest of your drivel, you can't just cite nebulous "black people are less healthy because of systemic racism" and take the giant leap to COVID-19 mostly being the fault of systemic racism. This requires actual study with actual evidence. Otherwise you can find anything where black people have a perceived disadvantage, and blame "racism" for any disparate outcomes.

    This is why you put someone in charge who actually has an interest in proper scientific study of the matter, not a lifelong SJW with a narrow and rigid view regarding racism and healthcare.

    You know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

    Black people are obese at far higher rates than white people.

    Obese people are dying of COVID at far higher rates than non-obese people.

    Therefore, the most likely reason black people are dying at a higher rate is due to this obesity, NOT systemic racism.


    A responsible appointee would also study whether there's additional factors involved in the higher death rates for black people, such as some kind of genetic predisposition to worse COVID results.

    But no. We don't get any of that. Fuck the science. Ignore the obvious. Just say it's "systemic racism" and call it a day, right? You realize that's what she's doing, right? There's zero attempt to seriously study the matter or ascertain the true cause.

    These are the unbiased, scientific geniuses being given leadership positions in your precious Party of Science.

    You can remain in denial, or you can admit that this shit is ridiculous, and should be excised from your party before the next election.
    What a word salad spin to try and obfuscate my point about the problem being multi-faceted.

    I'll put it in terms that might be helpful: junk food. On Halloween, children trick or treat and bring home a bag of candy, consisting of lots of types of chocolate bars. Let's call those tasty treats 'variables'. Systemic racism can be thought of as a Crunch bar. Those Crunch bars, along with all the other candies ('variables'), make up the reasons why minorities are disproportionately impacted. Obesity is in there too!

    Read it again. And read the article as well.

    Do you really think that racism has zero impact on health?

    Have you had any exposure to what this work is comprised of, or does Charlie Kirk leave out the nuance when reaching the incel community?
    I don't read or listen to Charlie Kirk. Why all the incel talk here? Your wife not giving you any since the baby was born, so now you identify more with them? You can always take a walk outside, and perhaps one of the meth-addled Antifa chicks will give you a sympathy fuck.

    How does "systemic racism" have an impact on COVID? Give me specific examples. Tell me how a person having black skin in the same city at the same time would make them more likely to die than having white skin. Don't tell me to read articles or spout generalities.

    I want to know from Sloppy Joe specifically how racism would specifically lead black people to die more often from COVID.

    Sloppy Social Justice Joe sounds like he's been hanging out in downtown Porltand a bit too long. Everything is racist!!!

    Seriously, though, let's have some examples. Make sure to cite data and studies, not just something you heard shouted on an Occupied Zone street corner.
    Incel label because you're the walking embodiment of one who is involuntarily celibate; misogynistic, slovenly and perpetually aggrieved. Even sadder if you're actually getting it in.

    I'll address the straw man: if you read your own forum you'll recall that there's no harsher critic of Portland than me. It's a fucking wasteland of failed liberal policies, riddled with graffiti and staggering heroin addicts everywhere. My only real ventures outside are to go downtown into work and ppick up groceries, etc. and the city is a fucking trash can.

    Per the bolded, my previous posts address this, and I even used an example of chocolate bars to further illustrate that. Your brain can't put the pieces together, but I tried! Here's my final go:

    Historical racism led to systemic inequalities, which exists today.

    Non-whites are more likely to be poor as a result. More poor = more bad health care. More bad health care = more problems. More problems + pandemic = more dead.

    You want to latch on to a simplistic notion of a female Yale professor being radical because Team Retard twitter tells you so, and academia and women are big triggers for incels. A quick look at her CV suggests otherwise, but keep it simple in line with your worldview.

    If a black female scholar is too triggering, just drop some combination of 'America healthcare racism' into Google scholar. No shortage of evidence.
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    You can add living and working closer together to above list. Food processing being an essential service being the worst offender. Can't afford to not work, working sick, working in poorly ventilated areas with other questionable practices.

    There's difference when you catch it spending 10 minutes in the liquor store vs manual labor for a week or two in slaughter house. The difference in the viral load can be easily above 100 fold.

    Oh and something about science.

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    Moderna says its vaccine provides COVID-19 immunity for at least three months

    https://nypost.com/2020/12/04/modern...t-three-months

    That's it?

    What happens after three months?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Moderna says its vaccine provides COVID-19 immunity for at least three months

    https://nypost.com/2020/12/04/modern...t-three-months

    That's it?

    What happens after three months?



    Sure, ignore the most important 2 words in the story ("AT LEAST"). They don't know because they only have 3 months of data. It could be a year or many years. Only time will tell.

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    lol do you expect them to guarantee years of efficacy when this was rushed out in 9 months? How could they know?

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    the point of this round of vaccines isnt so much to provide a perm solution to infection, its to interrupt/arrest the infection growth cycle.

    we are tipping towards the point where we have multiple family members dying in the same home at the same time because there is no medical facility that isnt full. this is very bad. medically and psychologically.

    the goal here is to interrupt this parabolic infection rate so we can have a semi functional society without overwhelming available public resources. this round of vaccines is a step towards that.

    it might not work however because team retard have the emotional intelligence of lamprey eels so i expect them to keep on fucking up our chances to get this under control until we finally just build flaming moats around red states.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the point of this round of vaccines isnt so much to provide a perm solution to infection, its to interrupt/arrest the infection growth cycle.

    we are tipping towards the point where we have multiple family members dying in the same home at the same time because there is no medical facility that isnt full. this is very bad. medically and psychologically.

    the goal here is to interrupt this parabolic infection rate so we can have a semi functional society without overwhelming available public resources. this round of vaccines is a step towards that.

    it might not work however because team retard have the emotional intelligence of lamprey eels so i expect them to keep on fucking up our chances to get this under control until we finally just build flaming moats around red states.



    AHAHAHAHA TURN OFF THE NEWS FATTY, NORMAL PEOPLE ARE FINE, NO ONE IS DYING

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    OSA: yes its all trump supporters fault.


    i havent seen very many democrats refusing to wear masks because covid is a liberal hoax or because muh freedoms, so yeah take a bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the point of this round of vaccines isnt so much to provide a perm solution to infection, its to interrupt/arrest the infection growth cycle.

    we are tipping towards the point where we have multiple family members dying in the same home at the same time because there is no medical facility that isnt full. this is very bad. medically and psychologically.

    the goal here is to interrupt this parabolic infection rate so we can have a semi functional society without overwhelming available public resources. this round of vaccines is a step towards that.

    it might not work however because team retard have the emotional intelligence of lamprey eels so i expect them to keep on fucking up our chances to get this under control until we finally just build flaming moats around red states.



    AHAHAHAHA TURN OFF THE NEWS FATTY, NORMAL PEOPLE ARE FINE, NO ONE IS DYING

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    OSA: yes its all trump supporters fault.


    i havent seen very many democrats refusing to wear masks because covid is a liberal hoax or because muh freedoms, so yeah take a bow.
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    fucking stupid clown

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    This from an M.D regarding the upcoming vaccines:
    “Last week I must have been asked 20 times about the new COVID vaccines. Here are my thoughts. Please pass this informatiion onto many as you can. People need to have fully informed consent when it comes to injecting foreign genetic material into their bodies.
    1. The COVID vaccines are mRNA vaccines. mRNA vaccines are a completely new type of vaccine. No mRNA vaccine has ever been licensed for human use before. In essence, we have absolutely no idea what to expect from this vaccine. We have no idea if it will be effective or safe.
    2. Traditional vaccine simply introduce pieces of a virus to stimulate an immune reaction. The new mRNA vaccine is completely different. It actually injects (transfects) molecules of synthetic genetic material from non-humans sources into our cells. Once in the cells, the genetic material interacts with our transfer RNA (tRNA) to make a foreign protein that supposedly teaches the body to destroy the virus being coded for. Note that these newly created proteins are not regulated by our own DNA, and are thus completely foreign to our cells. What they are fully capable of doing is unknown.
    3. The mRNA molecule is vulnerable to destruction. So, in order to protect the fragile mRNA strands while they are being inserted into our DNA they are coated with PEGylated lipid nanoparticles. This coating hides the mRNA from our immune system which ordinarily would kill any foreign material injected into the body. PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been used in several different drugs for years. Because of their effect on immune system balance, several studies have shown them to induce allergies and autoimmune diseases. Additionally, PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been shown to trigger their own immune reactions, and to cause damage to the liver.
    4. These new vaccines are additionally contaminated with aluminum, mercury, and possibly formaldehyde. The manufacturers have not yet disclosed what other toxins they contain.
    5. Since viruses mutate frequently, the chance of any vaccine working for more than a year is unlikely. That is why the flu vaccine changes every year. Last year’s vaccine is no more valuable than last year’s newspaper.
    6. Absolutely no long term safety studies will have been done to ensure that any of these vaccines don’t cause the cancer, seizures, heart disease, allergies, and autoimmune diseases seen with other vaccines. If you ever wanted to be guinea pig for Big Pharma, now is your golden opportunity.
    7. Many experts question whether the mRNA technology is ready for prime time. In November 2020, Dr. Peter Jay Hotez said of the new mRNA vaccines, "I worry about innovation at the expense of practicality because they [the mRNA vaccines] are weighted toward technology platforms that have never made it to licensure before.” Dr. Hotez is Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, where he is also Director of the Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
    8. Michal Linial, PhD is a Professor of Biochemistry. Because of her research and forecasts on COVID-19, Dr. Linial has been widely quoted in the media. She recently stated, "I won't be taking it [the mRNA vaccine] immediately – probably not for at least the coming year. We have to wait and see whether it really works. We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know."
    9. In November 2020, The Washington Post reported on hesitancy among healthcare professionals in the United States to the mRNA vaccines, citing surveys which reported that: "some did not want to be in the first round, so they could wait and see if there are potential side effects", and that "doctors and nurses want more data before championing vaccines to end the pandemic".
    10. Since the death rate from COVID resumed to the normal flu death rate way back in early September, the pandemic has been over since then. Therefore, at this point in time no vaccine is needed. The current scare tactics regarding “escalating cases” is based on a PCR test that because it exceeds 34 amplifications has a 100% false positive rate unless it is performed between the 3rd and 5th day after the first day of symptoms. It is therefor 100% inaccurate in people with no symptoms. This is well established in the scientific literature. See the attachment (False Positive PCR testing is up to 100%!) for more information on this. If you go to the CDC site (file:///C:/Users/docto/AppData/Local/Temp/cdc_97230_DS1.pdf ), you can see that the weekly death rates in the US are now lower than they normally are during an average flu season.
    11. The other reason you don’t need a vaccine for COVID-19 is that substantial herd immunity has already taken place in the United States. This is the primary reason for the end of the pandemic.
    12. Unfortunately, you cannot completely trust what you hear from the media. They have consistently got it wrong for the past year. Since they are all supported by Big Pharma and the other entities selling the COVID vaccines, they are not going to be fully forthcoming when it comes to mRNA vaccines. Every statement I have made here is fully backed by published scientific references.
    13. I would be very interested to see verification that Bill and Melinda Gates with their entire family including grandchildren, Joe Biden and President Trump and their entire families, and Anthony Fauci and his entire family all get the vaccine.
    14. Anyone who after reading all this still wants to get injected with the mRNA vaccine, should at the very least have their blood checked for COVID-19 antibodies. There is no need for a vaccine in persons already naturally immunized.
    Here's my bottom line: I would much rather get a COVID infection than get a COVID vaccine. That would be safer and more effective. I have had a number of COVID positive flu cases this year. Some were old and had health concerns. Every single one has done really well with natural therapies including ozone therapy and IV vitamin C. Just because modern medicine has no effective treatment for viral infections, doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    This from an M.D regarding the upcoming vaccines:
    “Last week I must have been asked 20 times about the new COVID vaccines. Here are my thoughts. Please pass this informatiion onto many as you can. People need to have fully informed consent when it comes to injecting foreign genetic material into their bodies.
    1. The COVID vaccines are mRNA vaccines. mRNA vaccines are a completely new type of vaccine. No mRNA vaccine has ever been licensed for human use before. In essence, we have absolutely no idea what to expect from this vaccine. We have no idea if it will be effective or safe.
    2. Traditional vaccine simply introduce pieces of a virus to stimulate an immune reaction. The new mRNA vaccine is completely different. It actually injects (transfects) molecules of synthetic genetic material from non-humans sources into our cells. Once in the cells, the genetic material interacts with our transfer RNA (tRNA) to make a foreign protein that supposedly teaches the body to destroy the virus being coded for. Note that these newly created proteins are not regulated by our own DNA, and are thus completely foreign to our cells. What they are fully capable of doing is unknown.
    3. The mRNA molecule is vulnerable to destruction. So, in order to protect the fragile mRNA strands while they are being inserted into our DNA they are coated with PEGylated lipid nanoparticles. This coating hides the mRNA from our immune system which ordinarily would kill any foreign material injected into the body. PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been used in several different drugs for years. Because of their effect on immune system balance, several studies have shown them to induce allergies and autoimmune diseases. Additionally, PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been shown to trigger their own immune reactions, and to cause damage to the liver.
    4. These new vaccines are additionally contaminated with aluminum, mercury, and possibly formaldehyde. The manufacturers have not yet disclosed what other toxins they contain.
    5. Since viruses mutate frequently, the chance of any vaccine working for more than a year is unlikely. That is why the flu vaccine changes every year. Last year’s vaccine is no more valuable than last year’s newspaper.
    6. Absolutely no long term safety studies will have been done to ensure that any of these vaccines don’t cause the cancer, seizures, heart disease, allergies, and autoimmune diseases seen with other vaccines. If you ever wanted to be guinea pig for Big Pharma, now is your golden opportunity.
    7. Many experts question whether the mRNA technology is ready for prime time. In November 2020, Dr. Peter Jay Hotez said of the new mRNA vaccines, "I worry about innovation at the expense of practicality because they [the mRNA vaccines] are weighted toward technology platforms that have never made it to licensure before.” Dr. Hotez is Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, where he is also Director of the Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
    8. Michal Linial, PhD is a Professor of Biochemistry. Because of her research and forecasts on COVID-19, Dr. Linial has been widely quoted in the media. She recently stated, "I won't be taking it [the mRNA vaccine] immediately – probably not for at least the coming year. We have to wait and see whether it really works. We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know."
    9. In November 2020, The Washington Post reported on hesitancy among healthcare professionals in the United States to the mRNA vaccines, citing surveys which reported that: "some did not want to be in the first round, so they could wait and see if there are potential side effects", and that "doctors and nurses want more data before championing vaccines to end the pandemic".
    10. Since the death rate from COVID resumed to the normal flu death rate way back in early September, the pandemic has been over since then. Therefore, at this point in time no vaccine is needed. The current scare tactics regarding “escalating cases” is based on a PCR test that because it exceeds 34 amplifications has a 100% false positive rate unless it is performed between the 3rd and 5th day after the first day of symptoms. It is therefor 100% inaccurate in people with no symptoms. This is well established in the scientific literature. See the attachment (False Positive PCR testing is up to 100%!) for more information on this. If you go to the CDC site (file:///C:/Users/docto/AppData/Local/Temp/cdc_97230_DS1.pdf ), you can see that the weekly death rates in the US are now lower than they normally are during an average flu season.
    11. The other reason you don’t need a vaccine for COVID-19 is that substantial herd immunity has already taken place in the United States. This is the primary reason for the end of the pandemic.
    12. Unfortunately, you cannot completely trust what you hear from the media. They have consistently got it wrong for the past year. Since they are all supported by Big Pharma and the other entities selling the COVID vaccines, they are not going to be fully forthcoming when it comes to mRNA vaccines. Every statement I have made here is fully backed by published scientific references.
    13. I would be very interested to see verification that Bill and Melinda Gates with their entire family including grandchildren, Joe Biden and President Trump and their entire families, and Anthony Fauci and his entire family all get the vaccine.
    14. Anyone who after reading all this still wants to get injected with the mRNA vaccine, should at the very least have their blood checked for COVID-19 antibodies. There is no need for a vaccine in persons already naturally immunized.
    Here's my bottom line: I would much rather get a COVID infection than get a COVID vaccine. That would be safer and more effective. I have had a number of COVID positive flu cases this year. Some were old and had health concerns. Every single one has done really well with natural therapies including ozone therapy and IV vitamin C. Just because modern medicine has no effective treatment for viral infections, doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.

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    Today have the tastes back of salty, sweet, and sour in their purest forms. Anticipate full senses back soon.

    It is beyond time to start treating your body with only good healthy food for it to function properly and keep your body weight normal.

    Wake up, living unnatural is not natural and your body won’t have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
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    LOL at this tiltmonkey with the stupid insults. Are you really so angry about politics that you can't have a discussion like a normal human being?

    Regarding the rest of your drivel, you can't just cite nebulous "black people are less healthy because of systemic racism" and take the giant leap to COVID-19 mostly being the fault of systemic racism. This requires actual study with actual evidence. Otherwise you can find anything where black people have a perceived disadvantage, and blame "racism" for any disparate outcomes.

    This is why you put someone in charge who actually has an interest in proper scientific study of the matter, not a lifelong SJW with a narrow and rigid view regarding racism and healthcare.

    You know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

    Black people are obese at far higher rates than white people.

    Obese people are dying of COVID at far higher rates than non-obese people.

    Therefore, the most likely reason black people are dying at a higher rate is due to this obesity, NOT systemic racism.


    A responsible appointee would also study whether there's additional factors involved in the higher death rates for black people, such as some kind of genetic predisposition to worse COVID results.

    But no. We don't get any of that. Fuck the science. Ignore the obvious. Just say it's "systemic racism" and call it a day, right? You realize that's what she's doing, right? There's zero attempt to seriously study the matter or ascertain the true cause.

    These are the unbiased, scientific geniuses being given leadership positions in your precious Party of Science.

    You can remain in denial, or you can admit that this shit is ridiculous, and should be excised from your party before the next election.
    What a word salad spin to try and obfuscate my point about the problem being multi-faceted.

    I'll put it in terms that might be helpful: junk food. On Halloween, children trick or treat and bring home a bag of candy, consisting of lots of types of chocolate bars. Let's call those tasty treats 'variables'. Systemic racism can be thought of as a Crunch bar. Those Crunch bars, along with all the other candies ('variables'), make up the reasons why minorities are disproportionately impacted. Obesity is in there too!

    Read it again. And read the article as well.

    Do you really think that racism has zero impact on health?

    Have you had any exposure to what this work is comprised of, or does Charlie Kirk leave out the nuance when reaching the incel community?
    I don't read or listen to Charlie Kirk. Why all the incel talk here? Your wife not giving you any since the baby was born, so now you identify more with them? You can always take a walk outside, and perhaps one of the meth-addled Antifa chicks will give you a sympathy fuck.

    How does "systemic racism" have an impact on COVID? Give me specific examples. Tell me how a person having black skin in the same city at the same time would make them more likely to die than having white skin. Don't tell me to read articles or spout generalities.

    I want to know from Sloppy Joe specifically how racism would specifically lead black people to die more often from COVID.

    Sloppy Social Justice Joe sounds like he's been hanging out in downtown Porltand a bit too long. Everything is racist!!!

    Seriously, though, let's have some examples. Make sure to cite data and studies, not just something you heard shouted on an Occupied Zone street corner.
    Incel label because you're the walking embodiment of one who is involuntarily celibate; misogynistic, slovenly and perpetually aggrieved. Even sadder if you're actually getting it in.

    I'll address the straw man: if you read your own forum you'll recall that there's no harsher critic of Portland than me. It's a fucking wasteland of failed liberal policies, riddled with graffiti and staggering heroin addicts everywhere. My only real ventures outside are to go downtown into work and ppick up groceries, etc. and the city is a fucking trash can.

    Per the bolded, my previous posts address this, and I even used an example of chocolate bars to further illustrate that. Your brain can't put the pieces together, but I tried! Here's my final go:

    Historical racism led to systemic inequalities, which exists today.

    Non-whites are more likely to be poor as a result. More poor = more bad health care. More bad health care = more problems. More problems + pandemic = more dead.

    You want to latch on to a simplistic notion of a female Yale professor being radical because Team Retard twitter tells you so, and academia and women are big triggers for incels. A quick look at her CV suggests otherwise, but keep it simple in line with your worldview.

    If a black female scholar is too triggering, just drop some combination of 'America healthcare racism' into Google scholar. No shortage of evidence.
    Bad healthcare? So you're against Obamacare now? Interesting, I'll make a note of that.

    Also, your rambling leftist regurgitation above has a huge flaw, in that it's only focusing upon "poor people" rather than "black people". If the above were the reason COVID results were worse for black people, then poor whites should be doing just as badly as poor blacks, right?

    Somehow they're not, though. Poor blacks are doing substantially worse with COVID than poor whites, even though poor blacks tend to live in areas fairly close to good healthcare options, whereas poor whites often live in the boonies and don't. So that pretty much destroys your argument. But I know, it feels good as a middle-class white person to lazily say, "Everything's racist!" so you can feel good about yourself, while not lifting a finger to really do anything to help.

    Whenever you toss insults at me during political debates, I know I'm winning. Tight insult about the "incel" thing to a guy in an 11-year relationship, though. I'm sorry that you lack the ability to have discussions like an adult with people who disagree with your worldview. Maybe try working on that during the time you used to spend exercising, lung damage boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    OSA: yes its all trump supporters fault.


    i havent seen very many democrats refusing to wear masks because covid is a liberal hoax or because muh freedoms, so yeah take a bow.
    I have, however, seen Democrats praise tightly-packed crowds of 60,000 people yelling and screaming, during a pandemic where the transmission often occurs from loud talking in close proximity with others.

    It's a woke virus, though, so COVID didn't infect people during those huge demonstrations of yelling people shoulder-to-shoulder, many without masks.

    Some very unbiased studies from very unbiased universities proved that COVID get worse because of the protests, you see.

    And those studies proved that this is an INDOOR virus, so it's always safe to gather in huge crowds outdoors.

    Somehow those same people don't feel it's okay for large crowds to be outdoors at restaurants, stadiums, the beach, or concerts, though. Only at protests. Because the virus is woke, you see.

    I trust these people to always follow the science and never let political bias get in the way.

    SCIENCE!!!!

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    BTW when are we going to a picture of the studly dude we know as Sloppy Social Justice Joe?

    He's been on this forum for almost 9 years. Surely he can't be ashamed of how he looks. He's under 35, so how bad can he be? I mean, I know his lungs are shot for life and he can't exercise anymore, but I imagine it will be at least a year or so before he gets noticeably fat.

    If an old slovenly incel like me can get on live video, I think we can see a few candid shots of our guilty white lung-damaged Portland SJW friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    OSA: yes its all trump supporters fault.


    i havent seen very many democrats refusing to wear masks because covid is a liberal hoax or because muh freedoms, so yeah take a bow.
    I have, however, seen Democrats praise tightly-packed crowds of 60,000 people yelling and screaming, during a pandemic where the transmission often occurs from loud talking in close proximity with others.

    It's a woke virus, though, so COVID didn't infect people during those huge demonstrations of yelling people shoulder-to-shoulder, many without masks.

    Some very unbiased studies from very unbiased universities proved that COVID get worse because of the protests, you see.

    And those studies proved that this is an INDOOR virus, so it's always safe to gather in huge crowds outdoors.

    Somehow those same people don't feel it's okay for large crowds to be outdoors at restaurants, stadiums, the beach, or concerts, though. Only at protests. Because the virus is woke, you see.

    I trust these people to always follow the science and never let political bias get in the way.

    SCIENCE!!!!
    Yea none the above is true.

    BS!!!!!!!

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    Splits copypasta is about 2 months old. Your weekly death rate isn't the same as common flu. Not that flu's death rate would have ever been as high offseason either.

    Currently you're very safely looking at a pandemic and there's no heard immunity, not even close.

    But i assume i'm the only one that bothered read that, so who cares.

    BS!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Splits copypasta is about 2 months old. Your weekly death rate isn't the same as common flu.
    splitthis is a 65 year old obese redneck who pretends on the internet to be a medical professional in good health, bless her heart

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    This from an M.D regarding the upcoming vaccines:
    “Last week I must have been asked 20 times about the new COVID vaccines. Here are my thoughts. Please pass this informatiion onto many as you can. People need to have fully informed consent when it comes to injecting foreign genetic material into their bodies.
    1. The COVID vaccines are mRNA vaccines. mRNA vaccines are a completely new type of vaccine. No mRNA vaccine has ever been licensed for human use before. In essence, we have absolutely no idea what to expect from this vaccine. We have no idea if it will be effective or safe.
    2. Traditional vaccine simply introduce pieces of a virus to stimulate an immune reaction. The new mRNA vaccine is completely different. It actually injects (transfects) molecules of synthetic genetic material from non-humans sources into our cells. Once in the cells, the genetic material interacts with our transfer RNA (tRNA) to make a foreign protein that supposedly teaches the body to destroy the virus being coded for. Note that these newly created proteins are not regulated by our own DNA, and are thus completely foreign to our cells. What they are fully capable of doing is unknown.
    3. The mRNA molecule is vulnerable to destruction. So, in order to protect the fragile mRNA strands while they are being inserted into our DNA they are coated with PEGylated lipid nanoparticles. This coating hides the mRNA from our immune system which ordinarily would kill any foreign material injected into the body. PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been used in several different drugs for years. Because of their effect on immune system balance, several studies have shown them to induce allergies and autoimmune diseases. Additionally, PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been shown to trigger their own immune reactions, and to cause damage to the liver.
    4. These new vaccines are additionally contaminated with aluminum, mercury, and possibly formaldehyde. The manufacturers have not yet disclosed what other toxins they contain.
    5. Since viruses mutate frequently, the chance of any vaccine working for more than a year is unlikely. That is why the flu vaccine changes every year. Last year’s vaccine is no more valuable than last year’s newspaper.
    6. Absolutely no long term safety studies will have been done to ensure that any of these vaccines don’t cause the cancer, seizures, heart disease, allergies, and autoimmune diseases seen with other vaccines. If you ever wanted to be guinea pig for Big Pharma, now is your golden opportunity.
    7. Many experts question whether the mRNA technology is ready for prime time. In November 2020, Dr. Peter Jay Hotez said of the new mRNA vaccines, "I worry about innovation at the expense of practicality because they [the mRNA vaccines] are weighted toward technology platforms that have never made it to licensure before.” Dr. Hotez is Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, where he is also Director of the Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
    8. Michal Linial, PhD is a Professor of Biochemistry. Because of her research and forecasts on COVID-19, Dr. Linial has been widely quoted in the media. She recently stated, "I won't be taking it [the mRNA vaccine] immediately – probably not for at least the coming year. We have to wait and see whether it really works. We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know."
    9. In November 2020, The Washington Post reported on hesitancy among healthcare professionals in the United States to the mRNA vaccines, citing surveys which reported that: "some did not want to be in the first round, so they could wait and see if there are potential side effects", and that "doctors and nurses want more data before championing vaccines to end the pandemic".
    10. Since the death rate from COVID resumed to the normal flu death rate way back in early September, the pandemic has been over since then. Therefore, at this point in time no vaccine is needed. The current scare tactics regarding “escalating cases” is based on a PCR test that because it exceeds 34 amplifications has a 100% false positive rate unless it is performed between the 3rd and 5th day after the first day of symptoms. It is therefor 100% inaccurate in people with no symptoms. This is well established in the scientific literature. See the attachment (False Positive PCR testing is up to 100%!) for more information on this. If you go to the CDC site (file:///C:/Users/docto/AppData/Local/Temp/cdc_97230_DS1.pdf ), you can see that the weekly death rates in the US are now lower than they normally are during an average flu season.
    11. The other reason you don’t need a vaccine for COVID-19 is that substantial herd immunity has already taken place in the United States. This is the primary reason for the end of the pandemic.
    12. Unfortunately, you cannot completely trust what you hear from the media. They have consistently got it wrong for the past year. Since they are all supported by Big Pharma and the other entities selling the COVID vaccines, they are not going to be fully forthcoming when it comes to mRNA vaccines. Every statement I have made here is fully backed by published scientific references.
    13. I would be very interested to see verification that Bill and Melinda Gates with their entire family including grandchildren, Joe Biden and President Trump and their entire families, and Anthony Fauci and his entire family all get the vaccine.
    14. Anyone who after reading all this still wants to get injected with the mRNA vaccine, should at the very least have their blood checked for COVID-19 antibodies. There is no need for a vaccine in persons already naturally immunized.
    Here's my bottom line: I would much rather get a COVID infection than get a COVID vaccine. That would be safer and more effective. I have had a number of COVID positive flu cases this year. Some were old and had health concerns. Every single one has done really well with natural therapies including ozone therapy and IV vitamin C. Just because modern medicine has no effective treatment for viral infections, doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.
    Is that why Trump ordered the FDA to approve it immediately without even a hearing?

     
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