I think that article actually got it wrong and the 2.8x number is by total population.Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Correct, it's not rocket science. So pay attention.
We aren't discussing the infection rates, which indeed have something to do with the lifestyles involved and type of jobs held.
We are discussing the disparate death rates between whites and blacks once they have COVID.
A completely random connection and I’ll surrender the tennis court to you guys.
I finally got around to Malcom Gladwell’s “Outliers”. Last night I read Power Distance and Plane Crashes: The Gladwell Hypothesis. Fascinating observations that centered around Individual vs Collective Cultures.
Not a good time for Individualist cultures like the US. You see the Democrats making strides with our population which speaks to the collectivist bent.
The collectivist cultures like China and Asia faring much better.
The anti vaxxers are the nadir of this sort of thing. Hey, rock on. Sometimes you pay with your lives & your businesses for muh freedom
I don’t know if this rings any bells with guys like Shrink, BCR etc. Wonder if Sonatine has invested time on that sort of thing.
Frigging great chapter. The whole book is excellent. I’m working my way toward 2010.
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My friend lost her taste and smell and got it back in a week and a half, it’s funny how the world turns upside down lol.Congrats on losing your taste and smell. Hopefully it comes back within 6 months.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
Its kinda pathetic how someone like split has bigger balls than most men on here.
Sad!
Skimmed something about how the virus migrates from the nasal passage to the brain and this was responsible for some people losing their sense of smell and tasteMy friend lost her taste and smell and got it back in a week and a half, it’s funny how the world turns upside down lol.
The corona fog which some athletes talk about post Covid.
Good times.
Yes. I read about that, too. There's a lot of nasty things it does which aren't fully understood.Skimmed something about how the virus migrates from the nasal passage to the brain and this was responsible for some people losing their sense of smell and taste
The corona fog which some athletes talk about post Covid.
Good times.
This chart says that black people get it 1.4x the rate of white people, but die 2.8x as often.I think that article actually got it wrong and the 2.8x number is by total population.
So my point mostly remains. It's showing that black people are dying at twice the rate of white people once they get it.
What a word salad spin to try and obfuscate my point about the problem being multi-faceted.LOL at this tiltmonkey with the stupid insults. Are you really so angry about politics that you can't have a discussion like a normal human being?
Per usual, it's not binary.Everyone has access to COVID-19 treatment. Hospitals cannot turn people away by law. To my knowledge, there is not a single case yet of an American being turned away for needed COVID care.
Where is the inequality?
What do you think is more likely killing black people at a higher rate? Obesity (which is documented to be much higher)? Or systemic racism?
Do you think it is necessary to establish an absurd "Equity Task Force" headed up by someone who already decided systemic racism is at fault, and won't even look at other causes?
Obesity certainly is a high risk factor (thereby wise of you to be cautious), but poorer health correlates disproportionately impacts poorer folks, which are disproportionately non-white. There's loads of evidence to suggest that this, in part, is a byproduct of historical oppression and systemic racism. Surely you think racism exists, yes?
So no, black people aren't dying more because we are enduring a racist administration, and employing an equity specialist is not a panacea. Regurgitating distilled Team Retard talking points makes you look stupid.
But studying these impacts on public health is bad...why? No one is going to force you to eat better, dress better or give a shit about your general appearance as a result.
Regarding the rest of your drivel, you can't just cite nebulous "black people are less healthy because of systemic racism" and take the giant leap to COVID-19 mostly being the fault of systemic racism. This requires actual study with actual evidence. Otherwise you can find anything where black people have a perceived disadvantage, and blame "racism" for any disparate outcomes.
This is why you put someone in charge who actually has an interest in proper scientific study of the matter, not a lifelong SJW with a narrow and rigid view regarding racism and healthcare.
You know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Black people are obese at far higher rates than white people.
Obese people are dying of COVID at far higher rates than non-obese people.
Therefore, the most likely reason black people are dying at a higher rate is due to this obesity, NOT systemic racism.
A responsible appointee would also study whether there's additional factors involved in the higher death rates for black people, such as some kind of genetic predisposition to worse COVID results.
But no. We don't get any of that. Fuck the science. Ignore the obvious. Just say it's "systemic racism" and call it a day, right? You realize that's what she's doing, right? There's zero attempt to seriously study the matter or ascertain the true cause.
These are the unbiased, scientific geniuses being given leadership positions in your precious Party of Science.
You can remain in denial, or you can admit that this shit is ridiculous, and should be excised from your party before the next election.
I'll put it in terms that might be helpful: junk food. On Halloween, children trick or treat and bring home a bag of candy, consisting of lots of types of chocolate bars. Let's call those tasty treats 'variables'. Systemic racism can be thought of as a Crunch bar. Those Crunch bars, along with all the other candies ('variables'), make up the reasons why minorities are disproportionately impacted. Obesity is in there too!
Read it again. And read the article as well.
Do you really think that racism has zero impact on health?
Have you had any exposure to what this work is comprised of, or does Charlie Kirk leave out the nuance when reaching the incel community?
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I know several people that have lost taste and smell for more than 6 months and still don't have it back.My friend lost her taste and smell and got it back in a week and a half, it’s funny how the world turns upside down lol.
Good luck to you.
Na, we only measure if someone dies or not. Not concerned with all the other damage that the virus is doing. Death or you're fuckin good as new are the two options...Skimmed something about how the virus migrates from the nasal passage to the brain and this was responsible for some people losing their sense of smell and taste
The corona fog which some athletes talk about post Covid.
Good times.
Any twinks or jocks with sixpacks that don't have any taste I have this special; "spiked protein" you could say, that will enable you to taste again.
Much like the vaccine, 2 doses are needed. However, some cases call for 4 doses.
Edwina and I woke up this morning with sore throats, mild fevers and some nausea. So, it looks like we'll be surviving on delivery booze and food for the next couple weeks. If we do have covid, we will be fine. Biggest thing we're worried about is getting someone else sick.
What a word salad spin to try and obfuscate my point about the problem being multi-faceted.LOL at this tiltmonkey with the stupid insults. Are you really so angry about politics that you can't have a discussion like a normal human being?
Per usual, it's not binary.
Obesity certainly is a high risk factor (thereby wise of you to be cautious), but poorer health correlates disproportionately impacts poorer folks, which are disproportionately non-white. There's loads of evidence to suggest that this, in part, is a byproduct of historical oppression and systemic racism. Surely you think racism exists, yes?
So no, black people aren't dying more because we are enduring a racist administration, and employing an equity specialist is not a panacea. Regurgitating distilled Team Retard talking points makes you look stupid.
But studying these impacts on public health is bad...why? No one is going to force you to eat better, dress better or give a shit about your general appearance as a result.
Regarding the rest of your drivel, you can't just cite nebulous "black people are less healthy because of systemic racism" and take the giant leap to COVID-19 mostly being the fault of systemic racism. This requires actual study with actual evidence. Otherwise you can find anything where black people have a perceived disadvantage, and blame "racism" for any disparate outcomes.
This is why you put someone in charge who actually has an interest in proper scientific study of the matter, not a lifelong SJW with a narrow and rigid view regarding racism and healthcare.
You know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Black people are obese at far higher rates than white people.
Obese people are dying of COVID at far higher rates than non-obese people.
Therefore, the most likely reason black people are dying at a higher rate is due to this obesity, NOT systemic racism.
A responsible appointee would also study whether there's additional factors involved in the higher death rates for black people, such as some kind of genetic predisposition to worse COVID results.
But no. We don't get any of that. Fuck the science. Ignore the obvious. Just say it's "systemic racism" and call it a day, right? You realize that's what she's doing, right? There's zero attempt to seriously study the matter or ascertain the true cause.
These are the unbiased, scientific geniuses being given leadership positions in your precious Party of Science.
You can remain in denial, or you can admit that this shit is ridiculous, and should be excised from your party before the next election.
I'll put it in terms that might be helpful: junk food. On Halloween, children trick or treat and bring home a bag of candy, consisting of lots of types of chocolate bars. Let's call those tasty treats 'variables'. Systemic racism can be thought of as a Crunch bar. Those Crunch bars, along with all the other candies ('variables'), make up the reasons why minorities are disproportionately impacted. Obesity is in there too!
Read it again. And read the article as well.
Do you really think that racism has zero impact on health?
Have you had any exposure to what this work is comprised of, or does Charlie Kirk leave out the nuance when reaching the incel community?
Are we talking about bite sized crunch bars or those big ones?
Because I think Druff is saying racism is the bite sized ones and obesity is the King Size or Family Sized bars.
where the fuck did you get this idea that you think you are funny
Slava Ukraini!
I don't read or listen to Charlie Kirk. Why all the incel talk here? Your wife not giving you any since the baby was born, so now you identify more with them? You can always take a walk outside, and perhaps one of the meth-addled Antifa chicks will give you a sympathy fuck.What a word salad spin to try and obfuscate my point about the problem being multi-faceted.LOL at this tiltmonkey with the stupid insults. Are you really so angry about politics that you can't have a discussion like a normal human being?
Per usual, it's not binary.
Obesity certainly is a high risk factor (thereby wise of you to be cautious), but poorer health correlates disproportionately impacts poorer folks, which are disproportionately non-white. There's loads of evidence to suggest that this, in part, is a byproduct of historical oppression and systemic racism. Surely you think racism exists, yes?
So no, black people aren't dying more because we are enduring a racist administration, and employing an equity specialist is not a panacea. Regurgitating distilled Team Retard talking points makes you look stupid.
But studying these impacts on public health is bad...why? No one is going to force you to eat better, dress better or give a shit about your general appearance as a result.
Regarding the rest of your drivel, you can't just cite nebulous "black people are less healthy because of systemic racism" and take the giant leap to COVID-19 mostly being the fault of systemic racism. This requires actual study with actual evidence. Otherwise you can find anything where black people have a perceived disadvantage, and blame "racism" for any disparate outcomes.
This is why you put someone in charge who actually has an interest in proper scientific study of the matter, not a lifelong SJW with a narrow and rigid view regarding racism and healthcare.
You know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Black people are obese at far higher rates than white people.
Obese people are dying of COVID at far higher rates than non-obese people.
Therefore, the most likely reason black people are dying at a higher rate is due to this obesity, NOT systemic racism.
A responsible appointee would also study whether there's additional factors involved in the higher death rates for black people, such as some kind of genetic predisposition to worse COVID results.
But no. We don't get any of that. Fuck the science. Ignore the obvious. Just say it's "systemic racism" and call it a day, right? You realize that's what she's doing, right? There's zero attempt to seriously study the matter or ascertain the true cause.
These are the unbiased, scientific geniuses being given leadership positions in your precious Party of Science.
You can remain in denial, or you can admit that this shit is ridiculous, and should be excised from your party before the next election.
I'll put it in terms that might be helpful: junk food. On Halloween, children trick or treat and bring home a bag of candy, consisting of lots of types of chocolate bars. Let's call those tasty treats 'variables'. Systemic racism can be thought of as a Crunch bar. Those Crunch bars, along with all the other candies ('variables'), make up the reasons why minorities are disproportionately impacted. Obesity is in there too!
Read it again. And read the article as well.
Do you really think that racism has zero impact on health?
Have you had any exposure to what this work is comprised of, or does Charlie Kirk leave out the nuance when reaching the incel community?
How does "systemic racism" have an impact on COVID? Give me specific examples. Tell me how a person having black skin in the same city at the same time would make them more likely to die than having white skin. Don't tell me to read articles or spout generalities.
I want to know from Sloppy Joe specifically how racism would specifically lead black people to die more often from COVID.
Sloppy Social Justice Joe sounds like he's been hanging out in downtown Porltand a bit too long. Everything is racist!!!
Seriously, though, let's have some examples. Make sure to cite data and studies, not just something you heard shouted on an Occupied Zone street corner.
where the fuck did you get this idea that you think you are funny
The look on a twink's face when I make them and then 2 hours later when my balls are slapping on their chin.
If this wasn't just something like food poisoning or mold in your heater ducts, where do you think you got it?
I thought you've been mostly at home like me, and ordering everything in.
Made a run to the liquor store earlier this week. Wore a regular mask because everyone else is supposed to be wearing masks too. Idiot with face tats and his half dozen kids were milling about sans masks and the fucking clerk had his hanging from his ear. Didn't realize what was happening until I had been in there for a bit and was paying for my booze. So like 10 minutes in a relatively small indoor space with 7 people basically not wearing masks. My fuck up for not wearing an N95. That or somehow from my grubhub/postmates orders. If it's the latter then we're all fucked.If this wasn't just something like food poisoning or mold in your heater ducts, where do you think you got it?
I thought you've been mostly at home like me, and ordering everything in.
It's definitely not mold or food poisoning. I'd say it's allergies and it's just me being a hypochondriac but Edwina is feeling the same way I am. And unlike me she's not a pussy.
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