So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[big dick]

Before cv19 NYC averaged 20 people per day dying at home . After cv19 they're averaging 200.


Prob just a coincidence

Okay?

I hope you realize I was never one of the people denying the seriousness or the deadliness of COVID-19. You won't find any of that from me in the entire thread. That's why I quit Commerce in late January, despite being on a very good run there.

Yup. You and your leader both made crucial calls back in January.


The question here is what did you and fat boy don do in february? Did you go back to the commerce in february? If you didn't then imo you are more qualified to be POTUS than dumfuck Don.

[Dan Druff]

has anyone seen a chart mapping the actual death rates in the US or specific states or cities in 2018, 2019 and 2020?

i'm curious how many more deaths we're seeing because of this virus but i haven't been able to find that info online

A few weeks ago, deaths were actually DOWN in the US, due to a far lesser amount of street crime and car crashes.

Now that the numbers have spiked up, I'm not sure.

[nightmarefish]

has anyone seen a chart mapping the actual death rates in the US or specific states or cities in 2018, 2019 and 2020?

i'm curious how many more deaths we're seeing because of this virus but i haven't been able to find that info online

This is the scope no one currently wants to talk about but will eventually become a political hot button. Reality is that many of the old people with health conditions would have died this year from something else if COVID didn’t get them.

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

got my 1200 dollars what do you think sonatine https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Gamin...wAAOSwPAldu3yg

[blake]

has anyone seen a chart mapping the actual death rates in the US or specific states or cities in 2018, 2019 and 2020?

i'm curious how many more deaths we're seeing because of this virus but i haven't been able to find that info online

This is the scope no one currently wants to talk about but will eventually become a political hot button. Reality is that many of the old people with health conditions would have died this year from something else if COVID didn’t get them.

that's why i'd like to actually see the data. DTHP and others were pretty adamant that this wasn't a big deal and i think the actual death rates would be the best way of proving this one way or another.

[Dan Druff]

Okay?

I hope you realize I was never one of the people denying the seriousness or the deadliness of COVID-19. You won't find any of that from me in the entire thread. That's why I quit Commerce in late January, despite being on a very good run there.

Yup. You and your leader both made crucial calls back in January.


The question here is what did you and fat boy don do in february? Did you go back to the commerce in february? If you didn't then imo you are more qualified to be POTUS than dumfuck Don.

Of course I didn't go back to Commerce in February. Why would I have done that?

I will admit that I didn't take the social distancing thing nearly as seriously as I do now, but almost nobody did at the time. However, I did quit Commerce on the day Kobe died (memorable day obviously). That was the last time I was there. Said I wasn't going back until this was all over, and stuck to it.

I knew this was a serious matter, that people were going to die, and that I was at least at semi-risk due to my age (I didn't know about the blood pressure thing yet.)

[nightmarefish]

has anyone seen a chart mapping the actual death rates in the US or specific states or cities in 2018, 2019 and 2020?

i'm curious how many more deaths we're seeing because of this virus but i haven't been able to find that info online

A few weeks ago, deaths were actually DOWN in the US, due to a far lesser amount of street crime and car crashes.

Now that the numbers have spiked up, I'm not sure.

My wife works on the trauma floor of her hospital usually full with motorcycle/car accident patients. Her floor has been pretty much empty during this.

[blake]

A few weeks ago, deaths were actually DOWN in the US, due to a far lesser amount of street crime and car crashes.

Now that the numbers have spiked up, I'm not sure.

My wife works on the trauma floor usually full the motorcycle/car accident patients. Her floor has been pretty much empty during this.

this raises a counterpoint. if jobs and entertainment venues are shut down, there would be far less car accidents and other things that come from mass interactions of people. even ordinary viruses like the flu would be far less transmitted so maybe comparing death rates is meaningless

[big dick]

Yup. You and your leader both made crucial calls back in January.


The question here is what did you and fat boy don do in february? Did you go back to the commerce in february? If you didn't then imo you are more qualified to be POTUS than dumfuck Don.

Of course I didn't go back to Commerce in February. Why would I have done that?

I will admit that I didn't take the social distancing thing nearly as seriously as I do now, but almost nobody did at the time. However, I did quit Commerce on the day Kobe died (memorable day obviously). That was the last time I was there. Said I wasn't going back until this was all over, and stuck to it.

I knew this was a serious matter, that people were going to die, and that I was at least at semi-risk due to my age (I didn't know about the blood pressure thing yet.)

I know you didn't go back . I know this because I know you're not a dumb fuck. If Trump was a poker player he would have gone back. Actually he wouldn't have gone back he would have staked someone else to go back and split the profits and let them risk their health.

[ErickAA]

A lot of the frail older people that died from this probably wouldn't have died this year, but they would have definitely died in the next 5 or so. My maternal grandparents both passed away in the last 2 years at age 88/89. it was a pretty gradual decline from age 80 on. No way they would have survived this if they had gotten it the last 5 years. This will definitely do some weird stuff to the year over year death rates, where it may spike for a couple years, but future years might have pretty big dips.

[sonatine]

got my 1200 dollars what do you think sonatine https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Gamin...wAAOSwPAldu3yg

use it to mine bitcoins so you can buy more stimulus checks.

[ErickAA]

I said I wasn't going to go back to the casinos around the same time as Druff, but wasn't disciplined and went to the Bike twice in late February anyways. I got sick from it too, but the symptoms were generic cold symptoms AND no one around me got sick, so I just don't see it being COVID. And to add to the indignity I lost pretty handily both sessions.

[BCR]

This is the scope no one currently wants to talk about but will eventually become a political hot button. Reality is that many of the old people with health conditions would have died this year from something else if COVID didn’t get them.

that's why i'd like to actually see the data. DTHP and others were pretty adamant that this wasn't a big deal and i think the actual death rates would be the best way of proving this one way or another.

This has been especially tricky to get hard data on with HIPPA. I know in my state the average age of hospitalization has been 61 and 10% of my 45-54 bracket have died if they need admitted. All information is real general if family doesn’t release it or is on social media. I’m seeing so many middle aged people it feels like because they’re more likely to be a part of that world than an elderly sick person.

I assume many older closer to death people are already in places where moving them isn't easy and they die before anyone realizes what’s up. Also those dying at home. If you’re in hospice you aren’t likely going to ER. There are a lot more elderly deaths than being counted, but not a huge deal because they were going to imminently die. . The obit section is larger than normal. Not enough local deaths to account for 5 extra pages. The first wave kills you if you’re really imminently on the way out. They don’t need it to progress to kill them like even a healthyish 80 year old does. Spike 104 if you’re already teetering and sayonara.

[ErickAA]

got my 1200 dollars what do you think sonatine https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Gamin...wAAOSwPAldu3yg

I respected your request to not post in the $1.5 million net worth thread because I don't have that much $$ (depending on how you do the math), but now you are telling me you got the full stimulus. Which makes me think probably you shouldn't have been posting in your thread either.

[big dick]

I said I wasn't going to go back to the casinos around the same time as Druff, but wasn't disciplined and went to the Bike twice in late February anyways. I got sick from it too, but the symptoms were generic cold symptoms AND no one around me got sick, so I just don't see it being COVID. And to add indignity upon indignity I lost pretty handily both sessions.

Thank god for online poker.Live sucks for multiple reasons. Too slow and too many dirty people sitting too close to eachother.

I was at the shoe in hammond one time I saw a guy eating an italian beef sandwich at the table that was drenched in juice once he finished he went ahead and licked every single finger and thumb clean

The only good thing to come out of this mess for me is online poker is booming.
Booming like it's 2010

[ErickAA]

that's why i'd like to actually see the data. DTHP and others were pretty adamant that this wasn't a big deal and i think the actual death rates would be the best way of proving this one way or another.

This has been especially tricky to get hard data on with HIPPA. I know in my state the average age of hospitalization has been 61 and 10% of my 45-54 bracket have died if they need admitted. All information is real general if family doesn’t release it or is on social media. I’m seeing so many middle aged people it feels like because they’re more likely to be a part of that world than an elderly sick person.

I assume many older closer to death people are already in places where moving them isn't easy and they die before anyone realizes what’s up. Also those dying at home. If you’re in hospice you aren’t likely going to ER. There are a lot more elderly deaths than being counted, but not a huge deal because they were going to imminently die. . The obit section is larger than normal. Not enough local deaths to account for 5 extra pages. The first wave kills you if you’re really imminently on the way out. They don’t need it to progress to kill them like even a healthyish 80 year old does. Spike 104 if you’re already teetering and sayonara.

Yeah. It seems the real tragedy numbers wise is going to be the large group of 50-60 somethings that are obese and have health issues, but would still probably have had another 10-15 years of fairly high quality life with the right medication. 10% of this group dying is a lot of expected high quality human life cut short.

[ErickAA]

I said I wasn't going to go back to the casinos around the same time as Druff, but wasn't disciplined and went to the Bike twice in late February anyways. I got sick from it too, but the symptoms were generic cold symptoms AND no one around me got sick, so I just don't see it being COVID. And to add indignity upon indignity I lost pretty handily both sessions.

Thank god for online poker.Live sucks for multiple reasons. Too slow and too many dirty people sitting too close to eachother.

I was at the shoe in hammond one time I saw a guy eating an italian beef sandwich at the table that was drenched in juice once he finished he went ahead and licked every single finger and thumb clean

The only good thing to come out of this mess for me is online poker is booming.
Booming like it's 2010

I definitely wonder what live poker tables are going to look like when the casinos reopen. Are they just going to go back to 9 people crammed together tightly? Will they require masks and gloves? Will they disallow eating at the table?

I should probably look into online poker again. Haven't even thought about it in 10 years.

[gauchojake]

ARCpoint Labs is now doing anitbody tests in the US. They claim their test is 97% accurate, which I find hard to believe. The FDA has not yet approved them.

You can do these drive-up test by appointment only. They cost $200 and are not covered by insurance.

https://www.arcpointlabs.com/covid-19-antibody-testing/

They are in several US cities. Google ARCpoint Labs to find out if they are where you live.

I considered doing this, but given that I don't know if I can trust it, what will it really tell me? Even with a positive result, I wouldn't feel emboldened to return to normal life anyway. The $200 doesn't bother me. I would gladly pay $200 to see if I was one of the lucky ones who had it already and didn't know.

Also, it's like 50 miles from me, and while there's probably no traffic (which is a huge factor driving in LA), I think it would end up being a waste of time and money, because I think it's very likely it would come up negative. It's hard to believe that, being 48 and having high blood pressure, I could have had it and not known. I will say that I had that weird sore throat and fatigue combo about 2 weeks ago, and a dry cough last week for 2 days, but it never progressed further either time, and the symptoms vanished. I would be more curious about my girlfriend, who had an unexplained fever.

Did you move to Hesparia?

I thought you were closer to the city than that.

I wonder if my FSA card would go through for this test.

[ErickAA]

ARCpoint Labs is now doing anitbody tests in the US. They claim their test is 97% accurate, which I find hard to believe. The FDA has not yet approved them.

You can do these drive-up test by appointment only. They cost $200 and are not covered by insurance.

https://www.arcpointlabs.com/covid-19-antibody-testing/

They are in several US cities. Google ARCpoint Labs to find out if they are where you live.

I considered doing this, but given that I don't know if I can trust it, what will it really tell me? Even with a positive result, I wouldn't feel emboldened to return to normal life anyway. The $200 doesn't bother me. I would gladly pay $200 to see if I was one of the lucky ones who had it already and didn't know.

Also, it's like 50 miles from me, and while there's probably no traffic (which is a huge factor driving in LA), I think it would end up being a waste of time and money, because I think it's very likely it would come up negative. It's hard to believe that, being 48 and having high blood pressure, I could have had it and not known. I will say that I had that weird sore throat and fatigue combo about 2 weeks ago, and a dry cough last week for 2 days, but it never progressed further either time, and the symptoms vanished. I would be more curious about my girlfriend, who had an unexplained fever.

Did you move to Hesparia?

I thought you were closer to the city than that.

I wonder if my FSA card would go through for this test.

There is a clinic somewhere in OC I heard, and I am pretty confident Druff lives somewhere in the valley, maybe even Ventura County. 50 miles sounds about right.

[gauchojake]

Did you move to Hesparia?

I thought you were closer to the city than that.

I wonder if my FSA card would go through for this test.

There is a clinic somewhere in OC I heard, and I am pretty confident Druff lives somewhere in the valley, maybe even Ventura County. 50 miles sounds about right.

There's one on Robertson just south of Beverly Hills. The Hesparia comment was kind of a dumb joke but I did think Druff was in the Valley still. He's probably hanging out near the Reagan library.