While deaths are sad they're a snap shot of what the virus was doing in the past. It's an outcome that results in one less person that can pass along the virus. I think the most important number to follow is the daily % growth followed by outcomes per day. If the % growth is declining and deaths/recoveries are increasing the virus is on the decline.
Every country, state, province etc. Has its own Coronavirus wiki page with a great timeline of the course the virus is taking. Anytime I read a sensationalist news article I check if it matches the data. Of course one could argue the data is skewed and manipulated and that definately happens but most countries seem to follow a similar path assuming they implement measures. Italy, Germany and Spain are all under 2% growth today. Italy's last double in cases took 20 days. I guess it's something to feel positive about under really miserable circumstances, it's declining worldwide and has been for awhile.
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1250135700063862791
im not asking for apologies but honestly its frustrating when citing something so obvious gets me called a crackpot.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
adding to tine's post
"But on Tuesday, the narrative has flipped. It’s no longer a story shared by China bears and President Trump fans. Today, Josh Rogin, who is said to be as plugged into the State Department as any Washington Post columnist, was shown documents dating back to 2015 revealing how the U.S. government was worried about safety standards at that Wuhan lab. In fact, they were worried that one day, one of these experiments — including the one on bat coronaviruses — could escape and become a global nightmare."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#61a748601ee1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...coronaviruses/
it's listed as opinion, which is weird as the writer is not giving his opinion
"The first cable, which I obtained, also warns that the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic."
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
This police state is getting out of hand. We need to start to organize against our lives being ruined over the 1%ers.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
Also love the shills at the WH Briefings trying to paint China in a honorable light and how great they are shipping masks and equipment to other countries.
A little bit of luck and built in social distancing.
Maybe just got lucky no super spreaders were out and about in the community early. California pretty much having no public transport, and much less apartment living also probably helped.
California probably had some infected people early, but they just didn't spread the disease very much.
It hasn’t really missed you. You’re just a fortunate state for a high population state. You took it seriously early and have a fairly fit populace. Our governor took it seriously here and we have 7000 cases with 1/4 of the population and you have 25000+ cases. So when adding in we are an older state, right about correct. You’re not like the other states that have got hit hard as far as mass transit.
There is nothing that could cause it to *miss* California short of herd immunity. If you think you have 20 million cases I don’t know what to do other than laugh. Even if you had 2 million cases, it wouldn’t miss you. And it’s clear you didn’t given they tested the direct lab specimens from 3000 California citizens sick with respiratory illness in January and Feb and had exactly zero Covid cases before mid Feb. I’m sure all those people are convinced they had it also.
Either we don’t actually have a test for Covid at all or you had something else. Zero cases from any case of those sick with respiratory illness is either the test doesn’t work at all or you clearly had something else that isn’t Covid. I don’t see an option three.
I think all 3000 of those citizens were from the same county, Santa Clara I believe. I am guessing if you looked at samples from a hospital in Monterey Park (a Los Angeles suburb that is almost entirely Chinese) the virus might have popped up a little earlier. But not several months earlier.
Trump halts WHO funding, claims cover up
Mutters “Everybody knows what’s going on there”
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
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It will probably wipe out 15% aged above 75, 10% above 60, and barely affect the younger cohorts. Same as everyone else.
Remember, Covid isn't actually that deadly. I am guessing a sizeable proportion of the homeless population will get infected and ~5% of those will die.
At my wife's hospital they had a 39 week pregnant homeless woman drugged out on who knows what come in. She tested positive for Covid. They did a C Section, she immediately gave up the baby, convalesced for a couple days, and walked right out the front door looking for her next fix.
500 years ago we would have just had sick people convalesce at home while everyone else went about their lives, the virus would have swept through the whole population, the vast majority of people would have recovered just fine, and life would have gone on without much hassle. Our modern respect for human life, which isn't something homeless don't worry too much about, is the main reason this is such a big deal.
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