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    It's like a miracle just like Trump said!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post

    I actually agree with you to some extent. When they announced the 100,000 figure I thought it would be less, in the short term, but if they had taken no measures the toll would have been way, way worse.

    In the long run I firmly believe that figure will be easily hit but as long as the medical system isn't overwhelmed it can be handled.

    Continually comparing the amount of deaths it to the annual flu is just wrong because we don't take any measures as a society to combat it other than a small percentage take the flu shot. If we all did nothing, like we always do, it would have blown the seasonal flu out of the water.

    We have been hit over the head that we need to take this seriously and fire and brimstone and you are a mouth breathing science denied if you don’t fall in line and say it’s going to be millions dead and so on and so forth.....


    We are starting to see see some politicians and newspapers stick their toe in the water saying very very noncommitedly “this is bad but maybe it won’t be as bad we thought”.

    The numbers outside of NY, NJ and now Michigan Louisiana and Illinois are starting to support that narrative.

    And no..... I’ll say it before anyone else does..... this doesn’t mean we over reacted.
    It sounds odd to say this during the age of Trump, but basically the media and the government team up in situations like this to try to scare the shit out of everyone to get them to comply. Stubborn Americans don't want to be told to stay at home. Tell them 250k deaths is probable, possibly a million deaths, and people start paying attention. The media happily does this because negative news is their first choice anyways.

    Set the bar "low" and then clear it. Everyone will feel good about their self-isolation vacation. New greatest generation. I'm playing my share of video games for my country.

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    WTF? "You" aren't seeing it? like you did a study on your own?

    More like you just watched 3 hours of Fox "news" lying to you,
    and now you (like sheep) are quoting them word for word,
    THEN act like its your own take. And you aren't in a cult, right?

    Fox didn't kill enough people the 1st round? so they are going to make up for it on the 2nd wave?


    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Curious, we are at 12,000 deaths US nationwide two months into this thing. Per CNN a couple weeks ago we were going to surge to 240,000 deaths and maybe millions. Not seeing it.

    Also, the Governor of NY said he needed 30,000 ventilators like 10 days ago. He has like 5,000 and there is no shortage.

    How did we go to mass deaths into hundreds of thousands to something that is less than the annual flu from 2018?

     
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    it is a crazy hype / hoax by fakenewsmedia and uglypoliticians here in Germany for months

    only a handful deaths in my state (Thuringia) within some months

    and maybe those oldies died because of other reasons or a mix or anyway

    nobody knows anybody whos sick or dead or even has the "regular" flu

    People are getting angry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    WTF? "You" aren't seeing it? like you did a study on your own?

    More like you just watched 3 hours of Fox "news" lying to you,
    and now you (like sheep) are quoting them word for word,
    THEN act like its your own take. And you aren't in a cult, right?

    Fox didn't kill enough people the 1st round? so they are going to make up for it on the 2nd wave?


    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Curious, we are at 12,000 deaths US nationwide two months into this thing. Per CNN a couple weeks ago we were going to surge to 240,000 deaths and maybe millions. Not seeing it.

    Also, the Governor of NY said he needed 30,000 ventilators like 10 days ago. He has like 5,000 and there is no shortage.

    How did we go to mass deaths into hundreds of thousands to something that is less than the annual flu from 2018?

    Hes getting his disinformation from ultra right wing media outlets. It’s irresponsible to think we may be plateauing and Fox News is at the center of it.

    Wait a second.

    “Right now we’re projecting that we are reaching a plateau in the total number of hospitalizations, and you can see the growth and you see it starting to flatten,” Cuomo told reporters Tuesday. “Change in daily ICU admissions is way down, and that’s good news. The daily intubations number is down, and that’s good news. The discharge rate is right about where it was

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    So we shut down the country to stop the spread and now the retards come out saying, see I told you it isn’t any worst than the flu. Come on retards, if we had just went about our lives going to ball games and concerts millions would have died.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    So we shut down the country to stop the spread and now the retards come out saying, see I told you it isn’t any worst than the flu. Come on retards, if we had just went about our lives going to ball games and concerts millions would have died.
    Doubt it, but Muck Ficon would have perished and that would have been tremendous. We would have had a piece of shit off the dole so that would have been great. Actually it's better he is poor and destitute so society can point at him and make fun of him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    So we shut down the country to stop the spread and now the retards come out saying, see I told you it isn’t any worst than the flu. Come on retards, if we had just went about our lives going to ball games and concerts millions would have died.

    if anyone is wondering who the retards are....


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Professional gamblers qualify for Nevada unemployment amid crisis

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...risis-2001863/

    Seriously? Just makeup whatever dollar amount that pops in your head? How would they verify that since Casinos are closed? Would you need to file a federal tax return for a certain number of years claiming gambling losses or winnings? Impossible to get through to unemployment in Nevada anyway.

    I thought that employees of companies that don’t pay state unemployment insurance premiums aren’t entitled to unemployment. So, unless those professional gamblers structured they business as company with the owner receiving income in the form of wages as an employee of the company, including paying unemployment premiums to the state on those wages, they employee/owner wouldn’t be eligible to receive unemployment benefits. Or am I totally wrong about this matter?

    ...

    Never mind! I now see how they might be eligible under the federal relief package enacted a few weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Professional gamblers qualify for Nevada unemployment amid crisis

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...risis-2001863/

    Seriously? Just makeup whatever dollar amount that pops in your head? How would they verify that since Casinos are closed? Would you need to file a federal tax return for a certain number of years claiming gambling losses or winnings? Impossible to get through to unemployment in Nevada anyway.

    I thought that employees of companies that don’t pay state unemployment insurance premiums aren’t entitled to unemployment. So, unless those professional gamblers structured they business as company with the owner receiving income in the form of wages as an employee of the company, including paying unemployment premiums to the state on those wages, they employee/owner wouldn’t be eligible to receive unemployment benefits. Or am I totally wrong about this matter?

    ...

    Never mind! I now see how they might be eligible under the federal relief package enacted a few weeks ago.
    Traditionally you’re correct. Many states have made exceptions for 1099 workers and self employed. The federal disaster fund which is paying people $600 weekly certainly allows for those who haven’t paid in. But you have to qualifying through the state first. So logically states would have to allow it or no one would qualify for huge program they passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    So we shut down the country to stop the spread and now the retards come out saying, see I told you it isn’t any worst than the flu. Come on retards, if we had just went about our lives going to ball games and concerts millions would have died.

    if anyone is wondering who the retards are....



    Kansas has an infection rate of .03% and a death rate of .0001%

    It’s big enough that you can fit 6 Massachusetts in it and have room left over for a Delaware and a Rhode Island. Needless to say congestion isn’t an issue they worry about a lot.

    Not every state needs to be treated like New York at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    if anyone is wondering who the retards are....



    Kansas has an infection rate of .03% and a death rate of .0001%

    It’s big enough that you can fit 6 Massachusetts in it and have room left over for a Delaware and a Rhode Island. Needless to say congestion isn’t an issue they worry about a lot.

    Not every state needs to be treated like New York at the moment.


    honestly none of this works if everyone doesnt do it, or someone at a kansas church infects an airline seat in a week and suddenly the circus starts all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Kansas has an infection rate of .03% and a death rate of .0001%

    It’s big enough that you can fit 6 Massachusetts in it and have room left over for a Delaware and a Rhode Island. Needless to say congestion isn’t an issue they worry about a lot.

    Not every state needs to be treated like New York at the moment.
    Seriously, WTF are you babbling about?

    They're trying to prevent "super-spreader" events like that funeral in Georgia. the UEFA Champions League game in Milan & the doctor's curling bonspiel in Edmonton(that's right, a bunch of doctors who knew what the fuck was going on & how to protect themselves all got it because 1 fucking idiot that knew better & how to protect himself decided to attend a curling bonspiel for other doctors) where everybody gets infected then takes it & infects everybody they know then we have an 80's Faberge shampoo commercial.

    I got news for you, as soon as you put a bunch of people shoulder to shoulder in a church the population density in that church is significantly higher than rural Bumblefuck, Kansas making mass transmission from even 1 infected person much more possible.

     
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    Anyone else see this warning by some doctors about whether ventilators are actually making some/many patients worse off versus non-invasive alternatives of increasing blood oxygen level?

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/90763...virus-patients
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Kansas has an infection rate of .03% and a death rate of .0001%

    It’s big enough that you can fit 6 Massachusetts in it and have room left over for a Delaware and a Rhode Island. Needless to say congestion isn’t an issue they worry about a lot.

    Not every state needs to be treated like New York at the moment.
    Seriously, WTF are you babbling about?

    They're trying to prevent "super-spreader" events like that funeral in Georgia. the UEFA Champions League game in Milan & the doctor's curling bonspiel in Edmonton(that's right, a bunch of doctors who knew what the fuck was going on & how to protect themselves all got it because 1 fucking idiot that knew better & how to protect himself decided to attend a curling bonspiel for other doctors) where everybody gets infected then takes it & infects everybody they know then we have an 80's Faberge shampoo commercial.

    I got news for you, as soon as you put a bunch of people shoulder to shoulder in a church the population density in that church is significantly higher than rural Bumblefuck, Kansas making mass transmission from even 1 infected person much more possible.
    Pretty sure the 1918 flu started in kansas and hit kansas pretty hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post


    Kansas has an infection rate of .03% and a death rate of .0001%

    It’s big enough that you can fit 6 Massachusetts in it and have room left over for a Delaware and a Rhode Island. Needless to say congestion isn’t an issue they worry about a lot.

    Not every state needs to be treated like New York at the moment.


    honestly none of this works if everyone doesnt do it, or someone at a kansas church infects an airline seat in a week and suddenly the circus starts all over again.

    Then we all stay at home for the next 6 months until we have a vaccine.

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    Tell any Kansas (or anywhere) city that they can have big church gatherings in exchange for the city being on complete Wuhan-style lockdown with roadblocks and National Guard troops.

    See how important Jesus really is to these dolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post



    honestly none of this works if everyone doesnt do it, or someone at a kansas church infects an airline seat in a week and suddenly the circus starts all over again.

    Then we all stay at home for the next 6 months until we have a vaccine.
    Or we just let Kansas have the natural advantage of being Kansas without shoving 300 people shoulder to shoulder in a church. There is a middle ground of letting these wide open places open their small businesses with a few employees and go about life in a common sense manner without shoving hundreds into one big room.



    The only reason their rates are so low is because they’re rarely packed in anywhere A church is pretty much worst case scenario other than funerals and maybe gyms in Kansas. Just don’t congregate and you’ll always stay on low end.

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    look at this savage. Fucking chinks

    https://nationalfile.com/video-chine...-social-media/

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    look at this savage. Fucking chinks

    https://nationalfile.com/video-chine...-social-media/
    I lol'd at this:

    The video circulated at a time where Chinese wet markets reportedly reopened despite global disgust at the conditions and cruel practices towards animals in these infamous markets.
    I'll go out on a limb and say thats not exactly the reason for the disgust.

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