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    gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.

    The guy has to be trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.

    The guy has to be trolling.
    Ok do you have anything resembling numbers to back up that it worsened the infections? It's literally the same thing why death numbers went down at the start of the quarantine. Sure people died of covid, but apparently that's less than deaths resulting in people living their every day lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.

    The guy has to be trolling.
    Ok do you have anything resembling numbers to back up that it worsened the infections? It's literally the same thing why death numbers went down at the start of the quarantine. Sure people died of covid, but apparently that's less than deaths resulting in people living their every day lives.
    It’s “highly likely” that the coronavirus case surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.
    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...onavirus-cases


    I'm sure Democrat Barbara Ferrer is just lying though. Has to be Trump's fault in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    Ok do you have anything resembling numbers to back up that it worsened the infections? It's literally the same thing why death numbers went down at the start of the quarantine. Sure people died of covid, but apparently that's less than deaths resulting in people living their every day lives.
    It’s “highly likely” that the coronavirus case surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.
    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...onavirus-cases


    I'm sure Democrat Barbara Ferrer is just lying though. Has to be Trump's fault in some way.
    Golfclap. You found a person backing you.

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    lol gimmick so stupid

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.

    The guy has to be trolling.
    It’s amazing how many people and businesses depended on this model for success.

    Conventions are dead.
    Anyone associated with conventions are no longer getting paid any money.
    This will probably be the case for the next two to three years.

    Stadiums are dead.
    Some sports teams will play in empty stadiums but most people who worked there won’t return for at least two to three years.

    All those concerts and special events with 20,000 plus people will not return for at least three years maybe longer.

    Most musicians who relied on touring to pay the bills, they will go broke.

    Almost every company impacted because of the coronavirus.
    Most will suffer with just loss revenue.
    Many companies will go out of business.
    There will be far less bars and restaurants in America.

    New Year's will be cancelled except for the fireworks.



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    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1

    SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition

    Here is an interesting study indicating that T cell mediated immunity, as opposed to antibodies, may be more important in developing immunity towards SARS COV, which is something I hypothesized months ago.

    The study also indicates that many people who never had SARS COV2 may have full/partial immunity due to past exposure to other coronaviruses, something else I hypothesized. The study indicated up to 80% of people without SARS COV2 had T cells in their blood that reacted to SARS COV2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1

    SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition

    Here is an interesting study indicating that T cell mediated immunity, as opposed to antibodies, may be more important in developing immunity towards SARS COV, which is something I hypothesized months ago.

    The study also indicates that many people who never had SARS COV2 may have full/partial immunity due to past exposure to other coronaviruses, something else I hypothesized. The study indicated up to 80% of people without SARS COV2 had T cells in their blood that reacted to SARS COV2.
    Since testing is so god awfully inaccurate how does anyone know who has antibodies?

    If research has accurate testing why can’t this science be transferred to the marketplace?

    It’s just something I think about reading this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1

    SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition

    Here is an interesting study indicating that T cell mediated immunity, as opposed to antibodies, may be more important in developing immunity towards SARS COV, which is something I hypothesized months ago.

    The study also indicates that many people who never had SARS COV2 may have full/partial immunity due to past exposure to other coronaviruses, something else I hypothesized. The study indicated up to 80% of people without SARS COV2 had T cells in their blood that reacted to SARS COV2.
    Since testing is so god awfully inaccurate how does anyone know who has antibodies?

    If research has accurate testing why can’t this science be transferred to the marketplace?

    It’s just something I think about reading this stuff.
    Most of the more accurate testing is performed using technologies that are too time intensive, resource intensive and expensive to be used in a marketplace setting.

    The antibody testing we do have has a lot of errors and limitations, but it is much cheaper and more scalable than other technologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Since testing is so god awfully inaccurate how does anyone know who has antibodies?

    If research has accurate testing why can’t this science be transferred to the marketplace?

    It’s just something I think about reading this stuff.
    Most of the more accurate testing is performed using technologies that are too time intensive, resource intensive and expensive to be used in a marketplace setting.

    The antibody testing we do have has a lot of errors and limitations, but it is much cheaper and more scalable than other technologies.
    Do we even know if the tests can beat a coin flip yet?

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    Another “SHIT”* video by Now This.



    *Probably what Druff would say.

     
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1

    SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition

    Here is an interesting study indicating that T cell mediated immunity, as opposed to antibodies, may be more important in developing immunity towards SARS COV, which is something I hypothesized months ago.

    The study also indicates that many people who never had SARS COV2 may have full/partial immunity due to past exposure to other coronaviruses, something else I hypothesized. The study indicated up to 80% of people without SARS COV2 had T cells in their blood that reacted to SARS COV2.
    I have something to expand upon this.

    Here is a really good article answering some questions nobody is asking: https://medium.com/@jrfinkel/covid-p...r-3e3a5f333d84

    It mentions the study you're talking about.

    Most notably, why are we NOT seeing second waves in places which were previously hard hit (New York, Spain, Italy, Belgium, etc) and why are we seeing huge upticks in places which were NOT previously hard hit (Brazil, California, Arizona, Texas, Florida).

    This cannot be explained just by lockdown/reopening data, as you'll see.

    Like I said on a recent radio show, I think there might be some partial herd immunity, and this article makes the case for it, among other things.

    (This is NOT a right wing article, by the way. In fact, it states that the protests in already-hit places did not impact further spread of the virus very much!)

    Anyway, this article makes a ton of sense, and is very good news. It's basically making the case that most areas are going to eventually experience one really awful period (also influenced by the popuation density), but that a true second wave will never come, and the virus will die down on its own.

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    Ohter extrapolations from the article, even though it doesn't directly make these points:

    1) Big time reopening should be happening everywhere which has already had a bad wave of COVID-19 and since improved

    2) In addition to NOT causing much effect in places which were previously hard-hit, the protests were probably a major killer in places which hadn't been (such as Los Angeles)

    3) Schools should reopen

    4) The governors of places which have reopened should not be blamed, because every major city is likely to have their moment of pain, and keeping closed is just delaying the inevitable while hurting the economy

    5) The picture for 2021 looks much more optimistic, as it would be assumed that most places will have had their period of intense infection by then

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    there's a handful of ppl here that are so propagandized out of it they would use this as a source


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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    there
    Hey boss, seldom seen Smith here.

    Hoping to see some video of you maskless and shoulder to shoulder at Mount Rushmore basking in the glow of Trump's benevolence this weekend.

    Just wondering, have u caught a Trans World Airlines flight yet?

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    Seriously though. Scroll up a bit and read the COVID article I posted. You'll be glad you did.

    It was written by a woman with left-leaning politics, so it's not any kind of conservative propaganda.

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    Treadmill arrived yesterday. Going to assemble it today and will post pics afterwards.

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    https://www.topfitnessmag.com/rowing...-rower-review/

    Not that relevant in this thread, but I have been using rower along with treadmill and free weights. I try and do 20 minutes on the rower and really works on the abs lost a few inches in the gut.

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    This COVID-19 pandemic has had the unintended consequence of showing how a much more dangerous virus has spread throughout the US.



    (Wondering which political party those particular virus carriers support.)
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    This thread is shameful.

    Where is the 429 page thread on the greatest virus of all time, the virus of systematic racism.

    But I digress. Reading through this entire thread I have not seen one post on how Covid-19 (the official name, my fellow posters) disproportionately affects our African-American community (ie: our brothers and sisters of color).



    Shameful.

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