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    Quote Originally Posted by BartHanson View Post
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    COVID has milded itself out further, and hardly anyone is dying from it now, aside from super old people. It is very rare for anyone who is under 70 and at least semi-healthy to get hospitalized from it now.

    Anyone healthy/non-elderly person wearing masks to avoid COVID is a complete retard at this point.

    Anyone getting a vaccine for it (again, except for the elderly) is also a complete retard at this point.

    Notice you are hearing crickets from the left about this. Where was the mass celebration that COVID was abruptly turned into a flu-like virus in early 2022?

    Honestly, despite how wacky the left was regarding COVID, I thought they would at least acknowledge when it was essentially over. That still hasn't happened. It is funny talking to the left wing COVID fanatics nowadays, as most of them have quietly stopped masking and vaxxing, but they can't coherently explain why.

    We've actually got a funny situation here. When COVID was actually a danger in 2020-2021, the right misportayed it as essentially being the flu. The left sanctimoniously chided the right for 2 years about this, and while they were wrong about a lot of things policy-wise (and lied to the people fairly often), they were correct that it was a dangerous disease. However, once Omicron 2022, COVID transformed into what the right had been claiming it was all along! So COVID basically mutated into the right's initially inaccurate claim about it. The left had a very hard time explaining this to people, so in order to avoid looking like they were wrong all the way, they just played down the massive difference in Omicron, and pretended COVID danger was still a thing.

    This is all a perfect case study as to why you don't politicize a novel virus.

    It's also a case study as to why science needs to completely stay independent of politics, and why censoring opposing viewpoints in science is a disaster.

    Lots of extra lives were lost, lots of kids were unnecessarily kept out of school, the economy unncessarily suffered, and people permanently lost trust in public health officials. Not good.

    The correct way to have done all this?

    Both sides should have agreed not to bicker with each other, and join forces with a singular goal to handle this optimally. Then the TRUTH should have been disseminated -- the truth about masks (no proof they worked), the truth about the disease itself (very dangerous to elderly, moderately dangerous to middle-aged, not dangerous to young adults and kids), the truth about the vaccine (it was a risk but not as big of a risk as COVID for those 45+), and the truth about the origin (likely a lab escape in Wuhan).

    All of the "noble lies" ruined public trust forever.

    Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    COVID has milded itself out further, and hardly anyone is dying from it now, aside from super old people. It is very rare for anyone who is under 70 and at least semi-healthy to get hospitalized from it now.

    Anyone healthy/non-elderly person wearing masks to avoid COVID is a complete retard at this point.

    Anyone getting a vaccine for it (again, except for the elderly) is also a complete retard at this point.

    Notice you are hearing crickets from the left about this. Where was the mass celebration that COVID was abruptly turned into a flu-like virus in early 2022?

    Honestly, despite how wacky the left was regarding COVID, I thought they would at least acknowledge when it was essentially over. That still hasn't happened. It is funny talking to the left wing COVID fanatics nowadays, as most of them have quietly stopped masking and vaxxing, but they can't coherently explain why.

    We've actually got a funny situation here. When COVID was actually a danger in 2020-2021, the right misportayed it as essentially being the flu. The left sanctimoniously chided the right for 2 years about this, and while they were wrong about a lot of things policy-wise (and lied to the people fairly often), they were correct that it was a dangerous disease. However, once Omicron 2022, COVID transformed into what the right had been claiming it was all along! So COVID basically mutated into the right's initially inaccurate claim about it. The left had a very hard time explaining this to people, so in order to avoid looking like they were wrong all the way, they just played down the massive difference in Omicron, and pretended COVID danger was still a thing.

    This is all a perfect case study as to why you don't politicize a novel virus.

    It's also a case study as to why science needs to completely stay independent of politics, and why censoring opposing viewpoints in science is a disaster.

    Lots of extra lives were lost, lots of kids were unnecessarily kept out of school, the economy unncessarily suffered, and people permanently lost trust in public health officials. Not good.

    The correct way to have done all this?

    Both sides should have agreed not to bicker with each other, and join forces with a singular goal to handle this optimally. Then the TRUTH should have been disseminated -- the truth about masks (no proof they worked), the truth about the disease itself (very dangerous to elderly, moderately dangerous to middle-aged, not dangerous to young adults and kids), the truth about the vaccine (it was a risk but not as big of a risk as COVID for those 45+), and the truth about the origin (likely a lab escape in Wuhan).

    All of the "noble lies" ruined public trust forever.

    Sad!
    You remember when the death rates were astronomically higher in the retarded Republican states because right wing media politicized getting the vaccine and a lot of dumb retards were dying off? Think 'the right' will ever acknowledge their role in killing their populace?


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    The death rates were comparable in all 50 states until the vaccine was released.

    This is interesting, because the left insisted that they were "following the science" regarding masking, lockdowns, school closures, etc. And yet their restrictive policies did not result in any better results. In fact, when you adjusted for percentage elderly population, the blue states often did worse!

    Yes, this changed after the vaccine was released. They had a lower percentage of the vulnerable population taking the vaccine in red states, and this resulted in extra deaths. If you remember, I was one of the Republicans who was urging people 45+ to take the vaccine, both on Twitter and PFA. In hindsight, this was correct on my part. It's also why I don't regret getting shots #1-3 (all in 2021), but I do regret the last one during the Omicron days in 2022. I was definitely in the range of the people who could have died from 2020-21 COVID, and the risk there was substantially higher than the risk of vaccine harm to me.

    There is no question that the right also politicized COVID. I tried to be one of the sane right wing voices, though obviously my following is limited. I did convince some fellow right wingers who were 45+ to change their minds and take the vaccine.

    This doesn't absolve the left of any of their stupidity, though. The noble lies, the anti-science rhetoric, the censorship of opposing viewpoints, and manipulation of statistics was disgusting. It also contributed to the right deciding to reject anything coming from the left, regarding COVID, including the vaccine. The left became the boy who cried wolf. They lied so many times about COVID, that by the time they were telling the truth (that the vaccine was useful), a lot of people didn't believe them.

    That's what I found so amazing about the sanctimonious left. They lied and lied and lied about COVID, and then when the vaccine was released, they yelled, "OMG OMG OMG why are people not listening to the experts????"

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    More open to that perspective now, really should be merged into that 'why is US a shithole now' thread.

    I have become more moderate since then and wonder how I would react if it blew up tomorrow instead of 2020 now that my son is 4.

    He was born right as the masks became ubiquitous and the hospital had triage tents set up in case of crisis. I had it early as well where it famously cucked my lungs and stamina. As an athletic guy in my mid 30's I remember thinking how brutal it would hit the old and weak.

    I chilled out post-OG vaccine and remember it feeling especially dumb coming back to Oregon after visiting my mother-in-law in Minnesota when nobody wore a mask.

    Physical stamina was again down for a stretch after I had it this October, bounced back faster than 2020, could be I'm just weak.
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